The 80s were weird man. I mean, they made a Robocop cartoon. NO kids should have seen that movie in the first place.
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I didn’t say they were. Aren’t the pro-life people mandating that she must not have one? Or am I confusing what you’re trying to say here.
Yeah that’s how it pretty much works right now. It’s sacrificing a bit of your free outside crowd time to save the high risk people. Where do you live? Our streets and grocery stores and gas stations and liquor stores have plenty of people in them. It would seem like in the vast majority of the country no one is being forced to stay indoors so not sure where EVERYONE in your line is coming from. You’re not stupid enough to realize how silly what you wrote is…
I realize some places have more strict rules right now than others and I am not familiar with all of them.
Are lots of people being charged with this nationwide? I was at a gas station earlier today with about 13 other people and a cop. He didn’t say anything about what we were doing. He didn’t say a word that I saw to anyone.
I don’t think anyone is. There seems to be a lot of people that think those people should be charged with a crime. The justification for all of this crap seems to be that some people could catch CORONAVIRUS-19 and die. Should people outside their homes be charged with attempted manslaughter? That seems logical to me, if the forced shutdowns are justifiable.
14 of you know exactly how stupid this is.
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@zecarlo You needed to substitute “human race” for “Americans”. Your title choice clearly indicates that you expect “better” from “Americans”. What makes you assume that Americans are better than any other national group in the world? After all, The Donald has been our fearless leader for almost four years, and one is a product of their environment, right?
Better do a gut check on that innate sense of superiority you seem to carry -sounds harsh but hey, I blame it on 'da Virus…
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I don’t believe so. Isn’t this a pretty big stretch if we aren’t charging people with something minor like a ticket?
I’m not sure what you do but I still need to get gas for my job. I have no idea about the cop and other people.
Isn’t it less like some people could catch coronavirus and die and instead lots of people could catch it and overwhelm the medical system and a lot of people can die?
You don’t find anything inconsistent with saying we should make it illegal for a woman to receive an abortion because all life is sacred but we shouldn’t take these steps because a lot of people aren’t likely to die? Does all life matter or is conception to 9 months the only time?
I don’t really care if someone wants to say fuck off if this kills a bunch of people I don’t care. I shouldn’t change my behavior. Totally fine. But if those same people say abortion should be illegal I’m going to be forced to scratch my head.
In this current situation, leaving your home while infected and going to a (non essential) store where you infect and kill someone should be treated same as DUI manslaughter.
A drunk driver at 0.09 thinks he is good to drive. He also knows it’s wrong to chance it. He doesn’t hit the large majority of other cars on the drive, and he didn’t mean to kill that one motorist he did hit.
It comes down to people not taking this situation seriously, and people refusing to act for the betterment of society, at the temporary, small inconvenience to themselves.
There’s an answer.
Edit: Why only “in this current situation”? What about next year? If, next year, someone has the flu, goes out, and infects a 90-year-old that dies, I assume you would agree that next-year-guy has committed the same crime, right?
No. I don’t see that as being inconsistent. I also don’t view declining to be kept alive by life support the same as suicide.
Do you have a reference for that? My understanding is that the actual number of infections is much higher than the number of confirmed cases since many people will have little or no symptoms.
It’s chaos one way or another. I’m not saying that everyone should go out to a parade or beach party and intentionally get sick, some measures need to be taken to slow the spread but too much measures will have severe negative consequences.
I don’t want to take this thread “there”, but I believe firmly that spiritual growth and life is essential during the good times. Because when it’s bad it reveals your character or lack of life jn broad daylight. Problem is, good times are when we are most distracted and “busy”. Just like everything else in life, it takes focus of some kind.
Also, instead of trusting in our 401k (which is taking a bath now), maybe we should build our community so it’s there when we need it.
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Before the crisis, the US had approximately 100,000 ICU units. For a nation of 350+ million. Waaaaay less than 1%
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Agree to disagree if the argument is we must do what we can because life is sacred. If that is not the manner that one opposes abortion then it wouldn’t be the same. I think it’s even more if we look at the individual impact. If we say she must do this because it will save that life even at a cost to her…but we aren’t saying we are willing to save these lives because of the cost. Not saying you’re right and I’m wrong just the way I see it. Forcing a 16 year old girl who was raped to have a baby is probably going to have more financial impact than the same 16 year old girl not being able to work for the next say 8 weeks. Significantly so.
Yeah me neither on the whole. I think most people use the term assisted suicide still. Although I might not consider them the exact same they are very similar at the minimum. In both cases someone is saying that due to the current circumstances of my life I now longer wish to live.
Yes probably, but there is ZERO way to actually measure these cases. Therefore you cannot include them because there’s not way to adequately estimate them. 15% of confirmed cases in Italy went to the hospital. That’s a number you can actually use.
The only way we’d be able to get a sense of asymptomatic cases would be to have nationwide testing, which we can’t do because we don’t have the capacity, supplies, or (right now) manpower/logistics for it.
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I agree, to an extent. Going outside during super-mega-huge pandemics should be viewed that way! Let those that are willing to give up their lives to drink with their friends in the bar do it.
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For the sake of the economy.
Can you not be gay for at least one post? Fucking millennials; you’re boring.
My social distancing isn’t about me potentially giving up my life to drink in a bar. In all likelihood I would not die from Corona, at least not likely statistically.
It is possible that me being exposed and infected at the bar infects numerous other people some of which may die or overwhelm our hospital system.
It seems like right now with the ability to only move forward from this day extreme social distancing in the short term may not only save lives but have a minimum economic impact compared to not doing it.
It seems like a lot of people think “the economy can’t take us doing this!” Which is certainly true to a point in the long term. But I don’t think some of these people are comparing what that economy might be long term if we don’t do this right now. It’s not nearly as simple as go back to normal and economy be good soon. It’s an undeniable significant risk to the economy to let this get millions of people sick.
But we don’t know either way of course. I never would have guessed the US numbers would be here at this point 7 days ago.
That’s some faulty logic.
They wouldn’t have been there if they hadn’t made the same risk-reward decision.
I would have.
Here’s the other thing. Nothing wrong with that statement by Patrick, like you said, and it shows a deep and abiding love for family and community…but haven’t people of his age and older sacrificed enough already?? He was probably a Vietnam vet, and the generation older than him was WW2, Korea, Great Depression.
Like seriously, why the FUCK can’t the younger folks sacrifice for the older ones for a bit? Like seriously. Why is it that the older generation is the one willing to do all the sacrificing? Because as weird as they can be (and downright misinformed sometimes) they’ve been there, done it, know what makes this country great and what it takes to keep it true.
What have the younger generation dealt with that was really an existential crisis? NOTHING. It’s time for my generation and those younger to sack up and grow a pair 
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