Interesting thought. I think callousness is equal risk for all ages groups to be honest. However, I think the callousness might be for different reasons as you alluded to. I have a really hard time having any sympathy for a person (Boomer or otherwise) who feels that the people older than them are less valuable. It’s old fashioned and all, but the whole “respect your elderly” rings pretty true for me. I find making the market or your own spring break party more important than an older person’s life to be pretty much anathema.
I do recognize that, as you mentioned in a previous post, the various cost/benefit analyses are a very real factor and will become more pressing as this deepens both for triage and for other reasons. However the way they were being presented is not (I think) the same as you were talking about.
True. Fortunately he responded with a rant to my rant, so it all cancels out lol.
Yeah I enjoy the looks I get with this also. Especially as I have significantly longer hair now so attempting categorization of myself confuses more people than ever before. The poor Asian grad students have been terrified of me in lab settings .
No disagreements here.
It’s a pleasure having you back here briefly my friend! You always bring good thoughts to bear.
If there were we’d probably have a helluva conversation over whiskey.
FWIW my parents are in the same situation as yours. My dad’s kidney function and circulation is not good and my mom is farm woman strong but still well up in age.
Very well could. I can’t remember which county I said as I know I’ve talked about the county I’m from and not just the county I have lived in. Higher chance if it’s the county I was born in as the county is much smaller. About 25,000 in the county I live in now.
I think a lot of it comes down to what is meant by that. I don’t think anyone thinks we can shelter in place for a really long period of time. But what that period of time is is up to a ton of debate.
I think a lot of Americans (again we will never all agree) are down for making changes for a decent bit when they are seeing the total number of deaths and number of people in the hospital. As that number grows and more and more people see themselves or loved ones at risk I think the idea of doing something (staying home) will become even mor accepted.
But yes we have to stop sometime no doubt. I just think if we look at where our numbers are at and where they are projected that time is not now. It is hitting this country harder than any other one.
I also view it a bit like 9/11. To me 9/11 was a time where we lost a lot of Americans in a short time and people wanted something done. They wanted to help, they wanted sacrifice, they wanted action because they didn’t like what happened. (Again leaving out that people disagree on what to do or how in crisis situation. I’m talking general “mood.”)
We’re looking at a situation which at least from a loss of life standpoint could be 9/11 times a bunch. I think most people will want the government to do a lot and want to help out in any way they can. Things like not being able to go to the movies right now seem pretty trivial to most people I would say.
I’m not arguing the “good or bad” behind many of that merely how I think people feel during times like this.
I am vaguely sure that malicious intent was expressed in both cases. Ok, i said vaguely sure, but still. One was maybe France in which a man alleged to be an islamic radical coughed on fresh produce, and i think the other was in the States.
I know this was just a rant but how old are you? 30’s? You’re a dad, right? My parents are in their late 30’s. I’m 20 and say young people need to sack up - I don’t aim it at you or my parents or people your age/in your situation.
I aim it at the 18-25 year olds with zero responsibilities who can’t stop partying with their buddies for 2 weeks. I’m in college and while the virus is starting to hit my state and we’re being encouraged to stay home, most of my peers continue to go to each other’s houses, go to parties, go to stores (that are still open), etc.
Those are the ones who bother me, not the parents nearing their 40’s & 50’s.
Just shy of 34 with two kids, but I’m still a Millennial, the generation that everyone loves to hate.
Your parents had you in this age range, right? A lot of 18-25 year-olds have a lot of responsibilities. Kids, jobs, debt, bills, medical expenses unrelated to the coronavirus, etc… Yes, there are some dumb fucks that do dumb things as opposed to staying home for various reasons.
I have a very hard time believing the majority of older people would have immediately accepted they have to forgo doing the things that 18-25 year-olds do because of a virus that disproportionally affects the immune-compromised and the elderly.
I’m sure many, if not most, do have things to take care of. I still have online school and one of my jobs is still going. Basically my only point was that I really don’t think Spring Breakers and Marine dads are very often grouped together, even if they’re technically part of the same generation. I wouldn’t tell you to deal with it, but I might a college kid who’s “bored.”
There’s a fairly well stablished criteria as to when motor skills are substantially impaired. This is a fairly uniform “.02BAC”, the cutoff is between 0.02-0.08 depending on where you live. Whilst individualistic metabolic/elimination rates differ, generally one standard drink will raise you’re BAC to 0.025. One should have the common sense to realise they’ll ping over the limit if they consume more than 2 beers (and get straight behind the wheel, rough rule of thumb is 1 standard drink metabolised per hour).
There’s no excuse for drunk driving, just as there’s no excuse for driving whilst high (though the systems that test for this look for the mere trace of THC, not actual impairment and it pisses me off because maybe I’d rather smoke a joint at a party for an equatable amount of intoxication rather than knock back eight beers… but with the one I can’t drive for a couple days afterward).
I understand you’re a libertarian (I too cater towards this societal stance) however I draw a hard line when someones actions put others at risk. People ought to be taught “X amount of booze = X BAC, you WILL be pinged as intox”
I checked it once when I was drunk (at a hotel that had a breathalyser), about 0.12 if I recall. Wasn’t incredibly drunk at the time, but notably impaired… would have probably come across as being obnoxious to the sober eye (I generally find drunk people very obnoxious unless I’m one of them, learnt this from trying to go to parties 100% sober)
You’ve got a lot of good kids… at the same time simultaneously you’ve got a fair portion of ungrateful little shits who cater to no one other than themselves. This doesn’t merely pertain to young people, there are plenty of elderly who refuse to listen to/abide by quarantine protocol. In particular however certain kids seem to believe partying is more important than the safety of the general populace.
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