Keep in mind he also didn’t mobilize anything at all during the 6-8 weeks we had until it got bad. So if he “knew” then he’s guilty of effectively killing American through dereliction of duty. But of course he didn’t know because he wasn’t listening. So he still killed Americans through ignorance and selfishness, but it’s not dereliction.
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If I were Trump, I’d just order all money in the U.S. go to me in order to prevent death. If you don’t think that’s a good idea, you must support more death.
Third world countries have people that die from shit that Americans shrug off, because of a lack of regulations. It’s definitely not that America’s wealth affords it a chance to combat things that poor places can’t. Shut downs FTW!
A man died in Arizona and his wife was sick as well. The woman was quoted as saying she had watched Trump mention the benefits.
Pat thinks it’s all the mainstream media’s fault of course (and it’s not Trump’s fault they were ignorant) and is far more concerned with lies and distortions from China. Because he doesn’t believe Trump himself lies or distorts the truth.
Thanks for providing a list that I can address specifically…
It is true President Trump did down play the virus as did everybody else. It is fair to say that the media and the DNC were doing the same thing. Plus, the Democrats were at the time trying and failing to Impeach the President, so he was a bit distracted as were the democrats.
As for facts, you know actions? As the saying goes, actions speak louder than words… Well, perhaps with words, he wasn’t saying enough. China was lying and down playing the virus, we did not have a lot of information on the virus. Everybody was down playing the threat. But what did Pres. Trump actually do?
- President Trump created the Coronavirus task force on Jan. 29 and imposed Chinese travel restrictions on China Jan. 31. At the time when he was retroactively being criticized for playing down the treat, he actually started the task force. And a move now credited with preventing many, many more cases, he shut down China travel.
Imagine how much worse it would have been had he not imposed the travel restrictions. This move was done on the basis of what doctors and scientists were advising him.
At the same time, the mainstream media were running articles like this:
or this:
https://www.ccn.com/relax-coronavirus-is-less-dangerous-than-the-flu-says-epidemic-expert/
So this epidemic “expert” says this, in the article printed 1/31/20:
“All the panic surrounding the Wuhan coronavirus is misplaced. According to experts you should be worried more about the common flu.”
Everybody, including so called “experts” were downplaying this disease at the same time. Trump and Congress were distracted by a phony impeachment and China was spreading intense misinformation.
Outside the US, everybody was downplaying it too. Hence Italy got destroyed by it.
I may need a source, because I did not see this at all.
No, by March Trump was ramping up the response big time as the picture became clear. The administration was already releasing guidelines on gatherings sizes and social distancing. Meanwhile, New York Mayor De Blasio encouraged New Yorkers to go out and have a good time and go on with their lives as the Federal Government is already issuing calls to self-isolate. He encourages people to go out and live as normal.
On 3/5/20, De Blasio issues the following tweet:
Gov. Cuomo on March 18th, refuses to issue ‘shelter-in-place’ order despite already growing fears.
“That is not going to happen, shelter in place, for New York City,” Cuomo said on The Daily podcast by The New York Times.”
All these things are now very significant since New York is by far the worst hit. And the Trump Administration was already starting to suggest ‘shelter-in-place’ for most of the country and the New York Mayor and Governor both pissed on it. I suppose this is President Trump’s fault?
And? He already made several increasingly big decisions by March 18. I don’t think anybody can know what he did or did not think unless he tells you. It can be contradictory depending on the timeline.
Whether or not you like what he says, he was ratcheting up the response increasingly rapidly.
He didn’t switch from one thing to anything. He said that he would like to see if he could open up the economy by Easter, but it depended on the situation and the advise of his experts. He never switched from one to the other, he was focused on both.
The economy is kind important. It needs to be focused on. The U.S. is losing billions and billions of dollars a day, that cannot go on indefinitely.
I wanted the economy open by Easter.
I am guessing you don’t think economy is important, but try to do anything without money.
If people are in economic peril as many are right now, they are suffering greatly. You don’t have to have the virus to be suffering.
Are the only important people, the ones with Kung Flu, or is it perhaps possible to suffer economically too? Are the people suffering from job-loss and financial distress less important than people who have cornavirus?
Oh? Which one did he contradict? As far as I know, he is following their advice as much as possible. Please provide a source for this, because I cannot find it on google.
I have a feeling you haven’t been listening or reading the actual words. He said he would like to have it open by Easter, but if the situation on the ground wasn’t right and his experts advised against it, he would adjust accordingly.
I don’t know where the hell you got this information, but it’s a flat lie. What you’re saying here never happened, at all. Find the text of his speeches where he said this. It’s on the record; and see if he said anything close to what you are saying in terms on contradiction.
WHAT? He’s sped up the production of ventilators by margins of exponents. Elon Musk is making them, GM is making them, etc. This is patently and absolutely false.
Perhaps you should focus on the facts rather than hearsay. Half the things you said are patently and verifiably false. Some of it is plain made up and sadly you don’t even know it.
Hey, you can dislike Trump all you want, but wouldn’t you rather dislike him on things he actually said and did? If you have to make up “facts”, doesn’t that mean you are wrong?
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Warren’s letter to Bolton from 2018.
Also, this:
Come on now. THAT one wasn’t Trump’s fault. Anyone who drinks their fishtank cleaner thinking it’s a premptive cure for… anything, is gonna die of drugs or stupidity soon anyways.
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The rest of us just have to hope they don’t reproduce first.
I personally, don’t think most people should be allowed to reproduce, but all you snowflakes start screaming facist eugenisist and shit.
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No not his fault because morons gonna be morons. But when people get told something works they don’t often think to check safety or science. People started buying that stuff like crazy apparently.
Gotta have a license to drive or smoke, but if you can get hard you can be a dad. And if you can not die before 18 you can vote.
I’ve gotta agree.
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Trying to piece it together…but you’re saying erections should be a voting requirement right?!
Not “saying;” agreeing.
No, that’s not what I said. What I said is that the MSM propped these nimrods up as a means to bash President Trump, trying to claim that ‘Trump essentially told them to take it’.
So the FACTS are, that these idiots who did not have Coronavirus, saw a bag of fish tank cleaner, which appeared to have an ingredient that had a name that was similar to the sound of a drug called ‘Hydroxychloroquine sulfate’ which President Trump was discussing as a treatment that is showing promise in the treatment of COVID-19.
So these mo-mo’s opened a cabinet and saw the bag of aquarium cleaner with the ingredient chloroquine-phosphate on the bag and said “Hey, isn’t that the stuff Trump was talking about?” They believed yes, without checking, without consulting with a doctor, without even considering that it’s a fish tank cleaner. Ignoring the fact that the chemical is not the same as Hydroxychloroquine-sulfate and also likely has other caustic chemicals as well, they decided to go for it.
So they carefully measured a heaping tea-spoon which is about 5-6 GRAMS of poison. The standard dose of hydroxychloriquine- sulfate is 200 mg.
They each put a tea-spoon of this poison of the poison in each prospective glasses and drank it down.
Shortly there after, they got horrifically ill, the man died and the woman blamed Trump and ran the story ignoring ALL of the above facts. Making it sound like they took a legit medicine, not ever mentioning that it was aquarium cleaner, that they took 5 grams of it and that they did not have coronavirus.
If this is a hill you want to die on, go nuts. But if you are going to go around bashing Trump because these idiots drank poison, you are probably not going to successfully blue pill anyone.
Here is NBC’s AMAZING coverage of this incident… Just one problem, the exclude all the pertinent facts listed above:
But hey, feel free to trust the MSM after they lie, and lie and lie everyday of every week and people like many on this forum eat it up like pudding.
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Yes…it goes both ways…
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Calm down. I said he doesn’t deserve the blame for the death. It was pointed out that people had died in other places from misinformation and I said it had happened here. I even said twice it wasn’t his fault.
I said people took him at his word (always foolish). And a lot were seeking it out because they thought the President was correct in what he was saying (usually foolish). I say this as someone who hopes completely that this ends up being something that can be used. Anything would be good. But let’s not be haphazard with stuff when people are panicking. Surely you can agree with that?
How foolish of them. Wonder why Trump didn’t consult with his medical professional when he was talking and tweeting about it? I mean to have access to one of the smartest people in the game and not talk to him about it?
“Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institutes of Health, has said that he has no data to rely on that the drug is safe for people who’ve tested positive for coronavirus, nor any data that proves it is effective.”
But don’t worry you guys are working to discredit the dude. He was a Reagan era deep state plant. But if it makes you feel better to think Obama did it go ahead.
I know I know the MSM and all that. I never know who all that includes. But I do know if they criticize the President they are now MSM and can’t be trusted.
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Wouldn’t give NYC stockpiled ventilators. Initially he wasn’t interested in speeding up production. The fact of the matter is, he initially downplayed the virus, claimed it didn’t exist/was a democratic hoax for weeks. He’s repeatedly given the public misleading information, causing mass chaos and confusion. I for one would prefer my countries president was able to adequately lead and dole out coherent, undoctored information in a time of crisis.
There is no excusing such an extreme latency period prior to taking action. Currently I believe the USA is number one for most cases in the world (Italy is when adjusted for populace). Now Donald Trump (after last week saying he’d open the USA by Easter) says “100,000 to 200,000 deaths” would equate to him doing a fantastic job… Please, he’s consistently backtracked and is now spinning anything to make himself look like he’s done a “fantastic job”
Don’t get me started about his comments on availability of testing…
I think Trump must’ve set some kind of record for most false statements openly made to the public from a US president…
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Except, Trump did tout it as a cure and the couple did indeed drink it. How is it lying or a case of bias when these are facts?
And pat calls them idiots but they probably voted for Trump.