If someone can look at a graph of what is happening in the United States and continue to shrug their shoulders they are hopeless. I didn’t see it but someone said in the town closest to us a bunch of good old boys gathered in the park and showed off cars and such because they thought tomorrow people weren’t going to be allowed to leave the house. Mind you we’re in a county with two confirmed cases. Who JUST started shelter in place yesterday.
The level of stupidity is mind boggling.
My state doesn’t have a ton of cases yet, but there’s a town with 14k people (as of 2017, probably over 15k by now), with a large Asian immigrant population. They have some factories there that they work at or something. Anyway, the town was real worried that “the Asians are gonna get us all sick!”
The first case was an American woman. She threw. A. Party. A. COVID19. Party. Yes. She thought it was just so quirky and cool that she got it, had a party, and got like 10 other people sick. And it wasn’t like a young person having a couple buddies over to get drunk, it was a middle aged woman having a formal dinner party with other adults.
I am disappointed in those Americans, haha.
Anyone throwing a Covid 19 party (once healed) should be thrown in jail for two years minimum. Just for being a fucking moron and a danger to society with their idiocy.
If we’re going to start making that a punishable crime, the world is basically going to become a prison planet.
A doctor from the Chinese Health Commission warns that certain recovered coronavirus patients might be prone to reinfection. However, before you panic, it’s worth stressing that this risk of relapse is true of any infection, not a unique feature of the current coronavirus outbreak.
“The antibody will be generated; however, in certain individuals, the antibody cannot last that long,”
How is that “hilariously dumb”? Of course if 90% of people in whatever region get the virus then it will be a huge problem and lots of people will die, but those who don’t will recover and be immune. It’s called herd immunity.
It seems more like a struggle for you to understand than anything. I’m the one saying we should ban travel between cities and regions to contain the spread. You just love arguing too much.
Something like 1/3 of the world’s population is essentially on house arrest right now, so we’re almost there.
“If most people are sick they will soon be recovered and immune.” You have no way of knowing of this is true. How could we say most will be recovered in a scenario where few people can receive medical treatment if 90% has it? How much longer is “soon” if people can’t get treatment.
So ban all travel between cities and ban all distribution of goods between cities because we are still unaware of the amount of risk due to the virus being able to stay on surfaces.
It would be better than doing noting no doubt. Stopping this thing in its tracks? No way. So
each new case we shut the entire city down, no one in or out and no one can work because they may spread it to other people. That seems like a logistical nightmare. But again better than doing nothing.
I think a lot of people don’t consider what being sick and recovered means. They have this idea that old people get sick and die while hooked up to a ventilator while others who get sick just catch a little “cold” and are good to go in a day or two. They don’t know that people who recovered includes those who recovered after the intervention of life saving measures. If there are more people in need of those measures then there will be more who won’t get them because of a lack of resources so many will die who could have survived.
Also, the more who get sick, the more doctors, nurses, and first responders will be at an increased risk of getting sick. A lot of doctors have died in Italy because of covid.
I like this part of your post a lot
Especially how it relates to this part
In “certain individuals”, eh???
Maybe the antibody won’t last all that long in anybody??
Of course it’s true, you can’t recover without your body producing sufficient antibodies to fight off the virus. See the article in my last post.
No, you can’t ban distribution of goods because then you will have a famine. That would be worse than taking zero measures and letting the virus spread. The virus can survive on smooth surfaces for up to 2-3 days, shorter on other surfaces, this is old news.
With all this other stuff in there, I don’t even know what sort of response you want. You are the one coming up with hypothetical scenarios of 90% of people getting infected, and that has not happened anywhere.
Maybe you should actually read the article instead of talking bullshit, this applies to all viruses.
I’m disgusted that so many Americans aren’t willing to “sacrifice” by simply staying the fuck home and watching Netflix.
People are looking for any excuse to justify why their special snowflake ass doesn’t have to abide by the SIP orders, but everyone else does.
Just like climate change, people listen to scientists up until the point it affects affect their wallet a little bit or affects their recreation. It’s disgusting how little people are willing to sacrifice when it comes down to it.
Well, look at the bright side - the ratings are great!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244309931874017280
Hahaha, no, it’s called herd mentality, uh, I mean… herd immunity
Edit:
In other words… EXACTLY…
How’s this:
The article didn’t indicate a reason for me to expect people to develop any more herd immunity to this than people do for the common cold, which repeats often and seems contrary to this:
Looking deeper, there’s no actual contradiction, but I would add this
I thought the NY Times was fake news.
Of course it isn’t. This relies on a shit ton of factors we don’t know about. Most importantly we don’t know what the survival rate would be if we don’t have the resources to help enough people. And that goes even lower the moment we lose doctors/nurses/paramedics. Unless I was supposed to take you seriously with those who don’t die will recover. Which is a bonkers statement to make with something like this.
Already been debunked for you in this thread. You need to go back and read Aragorn’s post to you.
You said if most people are sick. I didn’t know how you were defining most people.
I don’t want any type of response, but you have a lot of people who are correcting you in the last few posts and you’re ignoring it. That’s your choice, but it doesn’t make the “facts” your inventing correct.
@squating_bear - those are your words above
What makes you think that immunity to this virus would be so much shorter than any other virus? There is no indication that this is the case. And if it turns out that it is, then we have no choice but to continue with life as best as possible since there is nothing else we can do about the virus.
Maybe factors that you don’t know about. The concept of immunity is pretty simple, you should learn about it.
What exactly do you think happens to people who get sick and don’t die then? Have you never been sick in your life? It looks like a lot of people think this is the most serious virus ever, but it’s not. It just spreads very easily, but the actual death rate and rate of people needing medical care is quite low. You are not thinking rationally, this isn’t ebola.
Studies suggest that coronaviruses (including preliminary information on the COVID-19 virus) may persist on surfaces for a few hours or up to several days.
I’m just not interesting in arguing about nothing. I’m starting to wonder why I even bother posting here anyway, seems like we have had some good discussions at times but then it often becomes another pointless debate.
I’m not inventing any facts, and I have provided references for nearly everything I have said relating to this virus. You just don’t want to hear it from me, but I don’t really care.
He’s trying to start an argument based on some theoretical scenario, nowhere has a 90% infection rate.
Yes but that’s over the course of years, not getting sick a week after you got over a cold. There is no indication that antibodies for this virus don’t last in healthy people.
What I heard about that was that the virus could still be detected but it was no longer viable an not able to infect anyone. If you have other information the please show us.
That’s not what I’ve been talking about and you know it. The irony of you being corrected multiple times on your scientific “concepts” and then telling others to learn isn’t lost on me.
They live. It’s a moronic statement. Why worry about prevention or help for anything? Many are bound to live. Many people live a long life and never need serious medical care at all. Maybe just shut down the whole health care system and Darwin it all.
Yeah so we have a few hours and up to 17 days from data from cruise ships. So your 2-3 days comment is horseshit. We simply don’t know for sure yet and again this was pointed out to you already and you continued to say 2-3 days.
See above for invented facts by you.
I don’t even know what you are talking about or what you want here. You seem like you just
want to argue about something.
That was in response you you saying this:
Unless I was supposed to take you seriously with those who don’t die will recover. Which is a bonkers statement to make with something like this.
But now you concede that they would live, even though it’s “bonkers”. So what are you actually trying to say here with your endless argument about a hypothetical situation?
What? Who isn’t worrying?
I already addressed this above, and I didn’t make up the figure of 2-3 days
Yes, quoting the news, studies, and the World Health Organization equals inventing facts. You are out of your mind. You already have everything figured out, so why don’t you tell us how it goes? Maybe Trump will hire you as his advisor.