it’s all about presentation steve. and while WE know that sticking with the bigs is where the “bread and butter” is, to the average gym goer [the ones who would spend money on training] the guy doing squat-curls on dyna-disks looks “cutting-edge” and like he’s innovative. after working as a trainer at 24 for a little under a yr, i’ve seen this happen, it’s actually all i saw. these people come in who have never touched a weight, a trainer will have them doing the most pointless shit in the world while standing on a ball and they will get a little results [of course they’re getting results, they’ve never done anything up to that point] and then they will shell out serious cash to get as many sessions with this “training genius” as possible. after a month all results stop, and the yuppie with the “genius” can’t figure it out, but he’s still spending. i feel i presented myself at least as well as anyother trainer, but me preaching cleans,squats chins and benches made me look “oldschool” [i was 21 at the time] but the schlub who had every client doing the exact same thing, always on the ball or disks looked fun [read:easy]maybe thats what i get for workin at a commercial gym.
anyways, yall be good
Flash
Hey Flash, perhaps you should invest in a Swiss ball : ) Just kidding. Good luck to you man and remember the business is out there. Stick to your guns.
To this guy brad-You sound awfully opinionated about the topic. I have been certified from various different organizations NSCA ACSM and NASM included.How ignorant of you to say that one way of training is so superior to another. Different things work for different people. Maybe these clients have different goals than your clients did you ever think of that! Not everyone at a typical gym ( with the general population)is able to lift massive amounts of weight safely at least initially. Before you judge another trainers methodology ask yourself what you know about that clients goals, abilities and even health history. Also, You may not agree with some of the certifying agencys " rehab" like approach but If anything it gives me more tools in my toolbox to deal with a variety of clients.Sound like you’ve got the stereotypical COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH to YOUR training. NEWS FLASH! It’s called "PERSONAL training"So quit worrying and whining about what other people do .
You know, now I feel like visiting my gym during the busy hours, tell people I’m doing an “ab workout,” and just scare the living shit out of people doing Pavel’s “Power Breathing.” For some reason, I suspect it will work better than whatever the other members try.
To this guy brad-You sound awfully opinionated about the topic. I have been certified from various different organizations NSCA ACSM and NASM included.How ignorant of you to say that one way of training is so superior to another. Different things work for different people. Maybe these clients have different goals than your clients did you ever think of that! Not everyone at a typical gym ( with the general population)is able to lift massive amounts of weight safely at least initially. Before you judge another trainers methodology ask yourself what you know about that clients goals, abilities and even health history. Also, You may not agree with some of the certifying agencys " rehab" like approach but If anything it gives me more tools in my toolbox to deal with a variety of clients.Sound like you’ve got the stereotypical COOKIE CUTTER APPROACH to YOUR training. NEWS FLASH! It’s called "PERSONAL training"So quit worrying and whining about what other people do .
steve, you’re alright. once again, brad i feel your pain
You guys are all right, I am not getting exactly what I want out of my internship with a s&C coach right now. But a former strength and conditioning coach I worked with told me something very important. Sometimes you can learn as much by seeing the wrong ways of doing things than by seeing the right ways all the time.
dru, you’re an idiot. Where did he say he has a cookie cutter program? Oh that’s right, he didn’t. Tailoring a program to each person is what Brad is good at. You need to check yourself if you think those personal training “degrees” you just named are good.
To Tenbyson,
Sounds like I hit a nerve with you!Who are you his mother! Instead of writing Brad Cardoza CSCS perhaps it should say BSBS!
Wow, dru, you certainly got me there. I’m in a state of shock. I just don’t know how to respond to a dumbass comment like that.
Cardoza is an established member here. You have 3 posts, all attacking one person. Good job.
Het dru,
Wake the hell up! Can you explain to me why you jumped in here and ran your mouth off? I can tell just by the way you speak about “personal training”, that you are one of the clowns we are being critical of. Most of the shit you spilled out of your pants makes me believe you like to show off how you can do sqauts ona physio ball to your new clients…how impressive! That shit is almost toally useless and belongs in one of the three rings at Barnum and Baileys.
BadAssTrainer,
You almost had me going, and great picture. For Dru, your response doesn’t even warrant a reply. I’m glad that there are some people out willing to stand behind their beliefs. I felt better after writing this on Friday, and even better know having read your replies. Don’t worry trainers such as ourselves are marketable. When someone sees me training one of my clients I am generally approched by them right afterewards for advice or because they want to buy sessions, it has nothing to do with using green rubber bands or standing on one leg while doing military presses. I also want to state that I do in fact use these tools when necessary, I even have my own foam roller and physioball in my living room. I just think it’s ridiculous how much this stuff is overused. To all the Real trainers out there, Train hard and Train smart. Don’t worry about the “marketable, functional” trainers out there, they won’t last very long.
Brad Cardoza, CSCS
The only balls I sit on while working out are my own, when I screw up my position on the hyper.
i’ve done some personal training for “lifestyle” clients before. i never heard so much whining on their part in my! “but it’s hard!” sometimes i just wanted to say “shut up pussy and do it if you don’t want to a pathetic slob anymore!”
they all want results but only some want to work for it.
I think the best way to market yourself is to have great people skills, great knowledge and a physiques that others wish they had.
Aaahh,
Just do what you need to do to make money. I would guess that very few trainers could retain average clients prescribing hard work.
Give 'em indo boards, stability balls, gravitron machines to their hearts content. Talk to them about whilst they lift. Sign them up for “body pump”.
I agree,
For every client thats willing to give it 110% during their workouts, there are probably 5 that I have to baby, and makes sure if there is a weight increase its minimal and the client is unaware of it. This sounds somewhat deceptive, but I’m gonna make sure that people see results, no matter what it takes. Even if there is a little bit of safe trickery.
I love 24 hour fitness and balley’s trainers…they show my clients the WRONG way to do things, so that when I train them they are amazed at their results hahaha. I would prefer my clients go to a regular corporate gym trainer first so they can see the difference between a professional, ME…and someone who is doing it to get through college, THEM.
I have only met 2 guys that train for 24 hour fitness that actually knew what they were doing, and that’s b/c they were PROFESSIONALS…and that’s the main difference…most of the other trainers there were college students and didn’t have the time or passion to be a professional in the field.
I would guess that the average trainer really doesn’t know how to train.
I would guess that the average client would not be willing to do a program that was effective.