[quote]Grindsmen wrote:
Or how about the movie: Requim for a dream?[/quote]
That movie actually made me consider experimentation.
[quote]force of one wrote:
Makavali wrote:
force of one wrote:
Wow this is amazing. People on a MB on a website about strength sports/training/health etc encouraging someone else to TAKE DRUGS. lol
Kind of ironic.
To the OP: Inhaling smoke damages your lungs. Is breaking the law, damaging your health and picking up an idiotic vice really what you want for yourself? Just thought I would offer another point of view. =^)
Youāre an idiot.
Letās ban alcohol too, because that actually has been proven to cause greater damage.
I would be just fine with a ban on alcohol too. Itās all self destructive bullshit and you guys know it. Why not do something positive instead of guzzling poison or huffing up noxious smoke? I am sure that sounds crazy to you. I wouldnāt expect you to understand.
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More typical anti-marijuana fail. I use a VAPORIZER to get THC into my system.
[quote]spyoptic wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
people on here really smoke alot of grass. i personally never have tried it. to the people that did it when they were younger like 16 or 17, and your like 26-27, has it affected you, cuz i reall wanna know what it does.
P.S i am neutral on the subject of mary jane, im just too scared to try it, thats why ive never smoked it
You need to try it onceā¦ the best thing about life is trying new thingsā¦ I smoked for 5 yearsā¦ 2 of those was everyday chronic abuse shit. I run a sub 18 minute 3-mile and have an IQ of 145, so I guess it hasnt affected me much. Things you should also try is Ecstacy, specially at a party with hot girlsā¦ shrooms, acid, ketamine, hippy-flipping (shrooms plus X) crazy-flipping (acid plus X) and cocaine. my only advice is be careful with the last one and donāt take X with alcohol, cuz ull just get drunk. also marijuana while drinking is prolly one of the coolest mixes of drugs ever.
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yessir, all of the above and it was amazing everytime. not to get gay on yall but there is NOTHING like poppin some good beans with a real nice girlā¦damn. I feel bad for ppl who have never tried it because they have to go through life never knowing what its like, if i ruled the world the government would make everyone do it atleast once. plus it gives u superman fuking abilities, bitches will think ur the man.
āweedā
youll see when u try the herb for your first timeā¦but if ur really scared, you might be the type to get all paranoid and start freakin out about shit. there is nothing like waking up, getting ur green on and not having to do shit all day
its hard to explain its awesomeness but when u experience itā¦you WILL know.
[quote]ephrem wrote:
brauny96 wrote:
people on here really smoke alot of grass. i personally never have tried it. to the people that did it when they were younger like 16 or 17, and your like 26-27, has it affected you, cuz i reall wanna know what it does.
P.S i am neutral on the subject of mary jane, im just too scared to try it, thats why ive never smoked it
ā¦iād say: donāt start if you havenāt already. When youāre young weed, in most cases, stops you in your tracks. Your productivity will dwindle, and at a time when you start building a life for yourself, that is not what you want. Quitting weed after almost 18 years of continuous use was one of the best decisions i made, and take it from me: life is better soberā¦
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this is also trueā¦flipside to everything.
[quote]force of one wrote:
Makavali wrote:
force of one wrote:
Wow this is amazing. People on a MB on a website about strength sports/training/health etc encouraging someone else to TAKE DRUGS. lol
Kind of ironic.
To the OP: Inhaling smoke damages your lungs. Is breaking the law, damaging your health and picking up an idiotic vice really what you want for yourself? Just thought I would offer another point of view. =^)
Youāre an idiot.
Letās ban alcohol too, because that actually has been proven to cause greater damage.
I would be just fine with a ban on alcohol too. Itās all self destructive bullshit and you guys know it. Why not do something positive instead of guzzling poison or huffing up noxious smoke? I am sure that sounds crazy to you. I wouldnāt expect you to understand.
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Wow you are one conservative mother fucker. Do you have friends or have you run them all of with your āself destructive bullshitā lectures.
Working out is self-destructive, you break down your muscle every time you go to the gym. Do you indulge in that, or is that against your rules? Maybe lifting weights should be illegal.
Need I remind you that plenty of people see consistent lifting as unhealthy? (stunted growth, worn down joints, injuries blah blah blah)
[quote]force of one wrote:
I would be just fine with a ban on alcohol too. Itās all self destructive bullshit and you guys know it. Why not do something positive instead of guzzling poison or huffing up noxious smoke? I am sure that sounds crazy to you. I wouldnāt expect you to understand.
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Force of One, are you aware that marijuana is often prescribed by orthopedic surgeons to alleviate the pain associated with scoliosis?
Thought you might like to know.
[quote]force of one wrote:
I would be just fine with a ban on alcohol too.
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You DO realize that this would immediately cause organized crime and the underground economy to grow exponentially overnight, wasting trillions in taxpayersā money through a prohibitively expensive āWar on Vices of All Kindsā, donāt you?
Sound familiar?
Youād probably be much happier in Saudi Arabia than in The West where we value crazy pipe dreams like personal freedom.
On a side note, it would appear that declaring a war on anything is a sure fire way to never get rid of it.
War on Drugs, War on Terrorismā¦etc.
^ and for that matter war in general, too.
To the OP,
I never smoked weed (or used any other illegal drug), and Iāve never missed it. Iām in my late thirties, and sometimes I feel like Iām the only person who never āexperimentedā - and why should I?
Firstly, itās illegal - donāt get me wrong, Iām actually mildly in support of legalisation, and I think the āwar on drugsā is as misguided as the āwar on terrorā. But as long as itās illegal, I intend to respect that. I know I sound like a conservative, but to me obeying the law has intrinsic value; so I donāt break it - and I donāt want to support the criminal sources from where the drug would come. If youāre in favour of dope - vote for legalising it, donāt break the law.
Secondly, following from the legal argument, comes concern over my health and safety - I take care of what I eat, how I live and of my body in general. Consuming an illegally sourced substance may jeopardise that, as I have no control over the quality of the product. Thatās the big difference from alcohol in my opinion - itās regulated, its quality is assured, and itās normally not produced either by criminal gangs or amateurs. I live in a part of town which features a lot of drug dealing (mostly skunk, and the crime that comes with it) - I wouldnāt buy their homemade protein powder, why should I trust them with a mind-altering drug? Too unsafe.
Thirdly, and thatās a subjective experience. Most people Iāve met who regularly consumed had some sort of problem clearly connected to it: whether it was pretty much a complete short term memory loss (what a difference it made when a friend of mine was clean for a number of years), or the horrible break down of marriage and family of a friend of mine with a massive dope head. Or, let me just speak with my psychiatrist and psychologist friends who work with people in mental health clinics - yes, some people end up there with cannabis related problems. Less than with alcohol - yes. But just because one thing is potentially dangerous, doesnāt mean another isnāt.
Again - the risk has always just been too high for me. I didnāt drink any alcohol until I was way into my twenties, and I never smoked weed. Contrary to common belief, it doesnāt have to be a part of growing up. Iām into bodybuilding and living healthy, as well as in accordance with the law. That makes me definitely uncool, but at least I didnāt budge to peer pressure. The choice was mine and now itās truly yours.
Makkun
Makkun:
Would you ever consume cannabis in Amsterdam, where the drug is both legal and quality-controlled?
[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Makkun:
Would you ever consume cannabis in Amsterdam, where the drug is both legal and quality-controlled?[/quote]
Good question. Possibly. Although, in all the years that Iāve had family there, Iāve never felt the urge to visit for that purpose - I guess Iām also just not that interested in getting high. But Hollandās example is one of the reasons why I would support legalisation, as there are far worse law enforcement issue to pursue imho.
Makkun
Thank God, the laws here in South Africa are not nearly as draconian as those in the States.
Smoking weed is very common here. And the cops hardly ever bust you for possession. In fact, at soccer matches in this country, you can get totally stoned just from the second hand smoke! All this in front of the cops too, itās considered part of the natural order of things.
Hell, Iām in my fifties and still smoke at least once or twice a week.
You do get nailed here for harder drugs though.
Itās just that weed, although technically illegal, has been part of our countyās culture for centuries.
It certainly does a lot LESS damage socially than booze!
Holy shit. I just read through the rest of this threadā¦ thereās just so much fail.
Mostly from Force of oneā¦ but most of his points have all been effed in the A at this point.
You guys gotta realize people are always going to view marijuana the same way things like steroids are seenā¦
OP, ignore these wasted hippies here. Follow your instincts and stay off the drugs.
lol
[quote]John Q. Adequate wrote:
It really depends on the person.
I know a very successfull anesthesiologist who smokes regularly, as does his wife and two teenage boys. They seem like a normal, hardworking family and while Iām not sure about the frequency and volume of their use, it sure doesnāt look like theyāre disfunctional in any way.
On the other hand, you have me. I smoked for about 3.5 years, started when I was in the Army. It seemed pretty cool at the beggining, I got all of my shit done on time, had multiple girlfriends at occasions and felt superhuman.
Then it all got turned around, after about 8 months of constant abuse. Right off the bat, when I started, I smoked until it was all gone and then I went out to buy some more. I held regular jobs, so I could afford it, but looking back, I could have been a very successfull personal trainer if I hadnāt gotten so fiendish about it. Then came the speed, the ex, the hash, the acid, the dope. None of those made a lasting impression on me, but the weedā¦ Man, it stopped me dead in my tracks.
Now, after 3 arrests for posession, the last of which broke my parole, I had a choice to make - either spend half a year in prison or attend group therapy 2 times a week for a period of 3 years. I chose the latter.
Then it all came pouring out during the therapy. All the aggression, the delusions, the paranoia, the insecurity. Itās amazing how being clean forces you to deal with those issues. Before I started, I could change girls on a weekly basis. After enough abuse had altered my way of thinking, I couldnāt muster up the courage to ask for the God damn time, let alone get a number from a girl. And thatās just one of a hundred examples. Iāve lost friends, jobs and a feeling of self worth, among other things, during a very short time.
It made me very much aware that drug use isnāt for me. Itās cool for some, Iām sure, but I bet a lot of users are just fooling themselves. What do you get out of it, really? A good time, a high? Or do you just use it to delay the problems and to repress negative emotions?
Right now, Iām up from a shameful 150 lbs to a cool 200, feeling stronger and better than before. Itās about gratification. Doing drugs is instant gratification and it IS cool while the effects last, but once they wear offā¦ You either have to deal with your shit or you can always get some more to smoke up.
On the other hand, lifting weights is delayed gratification. I remember struggling to get a 45 lb plate off the floor. Now, they feel like feathers. The effort adds up. And the high you get when you break your PR in the deadlift is so much more worth it, because you know you worked your ass off to get there.
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well said
Youāre a pussy OP
[quote]brauny96 wrote:
people on here really smoke alot of grass. i personally never have tried it. to the people that did it when they were younger like 16 or 17, and your like 26-27, has it affected you, cuz i reall wanna know what it does.
P.S i am neutral on the subject of mary jane, im just too scared to try it, thats why ive never smoked it[/quote]
heāll explain everything.