I F**ked Up Guys

Pharma
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I juiced and didnt PCT over the summer, because I made the mistake of not having it in hand. When it came time to order it, I didnt have the money. I felt fine afterwards, and being the idiot I am, thought I was okay. Then, about two months ago, I noticed that my nipples are puffy. I saw an endocrinologist and he had some bloodwork done.

He tested me for prolactin, estradiol, and a full test panel. My estradiol and prolaction were actually normal, but my test was low. It’s only 285. I have gyno, too. I’m not as worried about the gyno as I am about my test levels being low. The gyno sucks shit, yeah, but I’m going to have to wait to get that done until I have the money to pay for that myself. I wasnt able to tell the doctor that this is due to steroids, because my mom is a very intrusive woman and insists on going in with me.

I’m only 18, and I’m thinking about scheduling another appointment and telling the doctor, and giving my mom some bullshit about me not wanting her to see me without pants on or something. I guess my main question is, what can I do to get my tests level back up again? Can I do anything, or did I seriously fuck myself over? I’m assuming the doctor can help me, but I don’t want to do hormone replacement therapy, because that shit is for life. What can I do, T-Nation?

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You’re 18. You can ask your mom to wait outside. Or you can ask the doctor to ask her to wait outside. I’m pretty sure doc patient confidentiality applies even if your name isn’t on the insurance policy.

My very unprofessional opinion is that you need to run a SERM.

Before you take anything you need to post the values with the lab references.

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You’re 18.

You’re allowed to go to the doctor by yourself now, big boy.

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I edited them into the main post. Is that what you’re looking for?

Thank you for the response.

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No.

Free Test
Serum E2
FSH
LH
Prolactin

Stuff like that. Read the TRT thread in the Over 35 forum for a more detalied outline of the tests you need.

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Free Test-75
Serum E2-37
FSH- Couldnt find this one on the page, does it have an alternate name?
LH -2.9
Prolactin-10.2

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75 do you have units? What is the range?

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No units, assumed to be pg/mL because the reference is pg/mL 47-244.

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Post the reference for the other values as well. With the units.

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E2- 37 w/ reference of: 0-47 pg/mL
LH= 2.9 w/ reference of: 1.2-8.6 mIU/mL
Prolactin- 10.2 w/ reference of: 2.6-13.1 ng/mL
Free Test- 75 w/ reference of: 47-244 pg/mL

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Damn, your levels are all fucked up. How long have you been off cycle now?

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which juice did you use?

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Am I missing something? The free test is within normal range.

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your 18 why the hell you using it anyway? i know im supposed to be answering the question but why would an 18 year old use. But yeah, i suggest u go to the doctor by yourself because you can

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[quote]Muskulls wrote:
Am I missing something? The free test is within normal range. [/quote]

The range covers all adult men. He’s normal for 60 year old. Read the trt threads in the over 35 forum.

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[quote]danielbasic wrote:
your 18 why the hell you using it anyway? i know im supposed to be answering the question but why would an 18 year old use. But yeah, i suggest u go to the doctor by yourself because you can[/quote]

Get off your fucking high horse, lol. Why do any 18 year olds use? Hmmm… to get big and strong maybe?

Sure it ain’t the brightest decision for his age, especially with no knowledge of PCT. But to assume all 18 year olds walk around with natty test levels equivalent to that of being on cycle is ridiculous.

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Letro wil bring ur test up and help da gyno

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[quote]bob_sander87 wrote:
Get off your fucking high horse, lol. Why do any 18 year olds use? Hmmm… to get big and strong maybe?

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Thank you…
I plan on going to the doctor this week and seeing what he has to say, thank you for all the support guys.

Can I get more of a confirmation on the Letro? What does it do, i.e. How does it raise test levels (does it stop estrogen aromatization?), does it reverse gyno or is it like Nolva in only bringing about symptomatic relief?

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
Muskulls wrote:
Am I missing something? The free test is within normal range.

The range covers all adult men. He’s normal for 60 year old. Read the trt threads in the over 35 forum. [/quote]

I can vouch for that ^^^; I’m 56. And it sucks majorly.

Why juicing at 18? Was it for football?

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[quote]Junaid wrote:
Letro wil bring ur test up and help da gyno[/quote]

Please stop throwing out random bits of information. Clearly this kid should not just embark on a letrozole protocol. It is irresponsible to suggest such a thing in this case, at this particular time.

And if you plan to give advice please speak english.