[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Fine. But while you’re doing that, why not use nolva as BBB says? [/quote]
Just wanted to point out… BBB wasnt recommending Nolvadex for tackling 19-Nor potentated gyno, he was saying that IF Oxymetholone is indeed an estrogen in itself, as is one of the theories, then a SERM would be advised - as an AI would be rendered useless as the aromatase enzyme isnt involved.
And i of course agree…
Brook
Soooooo would you
“A” use nolv to fight drol-test combo sides
“B” use adex first then asses using nolv if the adex wasn’t cutting it for you
Personally brook,bbb
JUDGE
Main concern the drol of course.
[quote]judgeroybean wrote:
Soooooo would you
“A” use nolv to fight drol-test combo sides
“B” use adex first then asses using nolv if the adex wasn’t cutting it for you
Personally brook,bbb
JUDGE[/quote]
I would use both (and do - letro and tamox)
adex(letro) for the test, and nolvadex for the drol - IF needed… it isnt proven it is an estrogen agonizer at all yet… but could be. I used letro and had very very low estrogen levels… with Test, Drol and eq
none of this explains the 30lbs in 3 weeks he supposedly got from this.
[quote]skitmds wrote:
none of this explains the 30lbs in 3 weeks he supposedly got from this.[/quote]
Very true… I used a full gram of Test /week for 9 weeks and walked away with approx 22lbs of weight gain 13-15 of which I lost (water) and scrapped 7lbs of muscle which I was friggin’ stoked about! If I gained 30 or even 50 as he said he did I would probably collapse under my own weight. And cardio would be like running with Delta Burke on your shoulders (thank you cortes).
Hey more power to ya… And as far as calories/carbs go, my intake was dramatically higher.
Brook, can you explain what you touched on about sides such as ariola size/shape temporarily changing??? This fits right into this threads topic… Thanks!
[quote] Brook wrote:
Aragorn wrote:
Fine. But while you’re doing that, why not use nolva as BBB says?
Just wanted to point out… BBB wasnt recommending Nolvadex for tackling 19-Nor potentated gyno, he was saying that IF Oxymetholone is indeed an estrogen in itself, as is one of the theories, then a SERM would be advised - as an AI would be rendered useless as the aromatase enzyme isnt involved.
And i of course agree…
Brook[/quote]
Hahaha. I confused myself reading the first time. Oops!
[quote]Randizo wrote:
skitmds wrote:
none of this explains the 30lbs in 3 weeks he supposedly got from this.
Very true… I used a full gram of Test /week for 9 weeks and walked away with approx 22lbs of weight gain 13-15 of which I lost (water) and scrapped 7lbs of muscle which I was friggin’ stoked about! If I gained 30 or even 50 as he said he did I would probably collapse under my own weight. And cardio would be like running with Delta Burke on your shoulders (thank you cortes).
Hey more power to ya… And as far as calories/carbs go, my intake was dramatically higher.
Brook, can you explain what you touched on about sides such as ariola size/shape temporarily changing??? This fits right into this threads topic… Thanks![/quote]
Well i didnt remember touching on that in this thread, so i looked through the posts and STILL couldnt find anything…! Buutt…
I have heard (and from what i have experienced tells me this could well be true too) that progesterone causes the areola around the nipple to largen.
This is either THE reason or one of the reasons that women have such large areolas in comparison to guys.
This is also known as Progesterone induced gyno i think (do i remember BBB stating this at some point?).
I myself have noticed slight increases in mine while on certain cycles, but not known progestin/progesterone cycles however. But highly aromatising compounds are going to lead to an increase in progesterone anyways so…
hope this helps and also hope it is right! feel free to bitch slap me…
Brook
[quote] Brook wrote:
Randizo wrote:
skitmds wrote:
none of this explains the 30lbs in 3 weeks he supposedly got from this.
Very true… I used a full gram of Test /week for 9 weeks and walked away with approx 22lbs of weight gain 13-15 of which I lost (water) and scrapped 7lbs of muscle which I was friggin’ stoked about! If I gained 30 or even 50 as he said he did I would probably collapse under my own weight. And cardio would be like running with Delta Burke on your shoulders (thank you cortes).
Hey more power to ya… And as far as calories/carbs go, my intake was dramatically higher.
Brook, can you explain what you touched on about sides such as ariola size/shape temporarily changing??? This fits right into this threads topic… Thanks!
Well i didnt remember touching on that in this thread, so i looked through the posts and STILL couldnt find anything…! Buutt…
I have heard (and from what i have experienced tells me this could well be true too) that progesterone causes the areola around the nipple to largen.
This is either THE reason or one of the reasons that women have such large areolas in comparison to guys.
This is also known as Progesterone induced gyno i think (do i remember BBB stating this at some point?).
I myself have noticed slight increases in mine while on certain cycles, but not known progestin/progesterone cycles however. But highly aromatising compounds are going to lead to an increase in progesterone anyways so…
hope this helps and also hope it is right! feel free to bitch slap me…
Brook[/quote]
Hey Brook, well for the record you had touched in it in my thread, but it seemed relevant to this thread so I asked about it. I am running Test & Tren cycle and almost daily I see areolas changing size/shape. So it’s safe to say this is from the aromatizing Test, and no need to start Caber???
Thanks again…