Please do tell me what numbers I’m quoting. I keep insisting there is no perfect number for anyone. What number did I quote you exactly?
This is my problem with your posts. I’ve explained this stuff… What… 5000 different ways? Yet you still don’t understand what I’m saying? You’re still misunderstanding yet I pride myself on being an excellent communicator. Everyone else seems to understand?
Danny are you responding to me?
Wouldn’t TRT increase iron stores? Androgens increase red blood cells which takes iron to make.
No… I was responding to @incline315
You mentioned numbers all the time like my friend is getting this much TT or FT from scrotal cream. Or that so-and-so needs to raise their bio available tea because it’s too low compared to their TT. Etc. etc. Not so much that you’re quoting perfect numbers but that you were pointing to “good numbers”.
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There is no middle ground? So zero people on ai are having success?
I watched a show on A&E where a high paid executive eats toilet paper. She’s doing well. Does she need the toilet paper? Or did somewhere along the way has she made herself believe her life is better by eating 3 rolls of toilet paper?
It’s a mental thing. Some people will take .015mg anastrozole and in their head they are controlling estrogen and that estrogen is their only problem. Sort of like my old roommate takes “test boosters” and swears up and down how much better he feels. The test boosters he takes have literally nothing in them but he believes they are making a massive difference.
Normal folks don’t need it on such low doses.
What do you mean by success? Damaging your bone mineral density, estrogen metabolism and lipids? Because more or less this happens to anybody taking AI
Anybody taking ai… got ya. You’ve diagnosed them all. Are those side effects you’re referring to the causeD by AI or low estrogen?
Seems its not only the low estrogen but the ai itself as well
This is it? This was the best you could do? What… I can only use letters here and not numbers? I talk about how doses are irrelevant as two guys can use significantly different doses to attain the same serum levels.
And?? This is somehow a problem??
Are you going to become our new forum troll? It’s looking rather likely.
It has nothing to with success. They may feel fine but they are destroying their health. I felt fine when I used to smoke cigarettes… Doesn’t mean they were good for me.
Is this just troll material or are you actually being serious?
Sorry, dbossa,
I have neither a for or against opinion on AI’s, but don’t you ever, ever speak poorly about smoking… you’ve crossed the line now…
DB - you do this all the time, numbers mean nothing is an argument.
A few posts later you quote numbers and ranges to support a different argument.
You’re taking out of both sides of your mouth. Get it?
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No, because you’re taking what I’m saying completely out of context.
There are some general guidelines that the majority of men seem to fall into (free T over 30 as an example). But at the end of the day this means nothing because you won’t know if you fall in that category or not. Everyone’s number is different. I can tell you what the majority are doing but not what is best for you.
I don’t know how I can possibly be more clear here.
@aussietim I appreciate the humor, but at the same time it still baffles me when someone uses the word “opinion” . I never want to have an opinion, because my opinion could be incorrect. I want to know what is true. What I can actually demonstrate consistently. That has evidence to support it. Otherwise it’s useless to me and just opinion. Whatever I say now is the best possible answer I have based on the evidence I have and what has been demonstrated. It also just happens to be incredibly reliable every time I put it to use with anyone.
You could be more clear by striking the phrase “numbers mean nothing” from your vocabulary.
Funny that bossa’s the one whose e2 is probably more than double the reference range but you’re the one bickering about semantics like a woman. Calm down.
@incline315 you really have a lot of free time on your hands, don’t you. I wish I had your kind of free time to troll forums analyzing the wording people use and take things out of context for the sheer enjoyment of it all.
I’ve got a business to run. Family. People that appreciate my help. Actual priorities. Knock yourself out with your nonsense, by all means.