Results came in today with .25 weekly of an AI. So I don’t buy the hard and fast rule or logic of no AI. To each his own I guess.
Weekly Protocol: 60mg TC X 2, 375 iu X 3 HCG, .25 AI.
59 year old male. smoker and drinker. If I cut out the last two who knows what I can do. that’s the plan starting Monday.
I was honestly expecting your e2 to be like 70 or something with that statement but it was below what I would expect for that much T
How do these results lead to your opinion? I don’t get to that conclusion after seeing your results.
So let me ask a hard question…how is the quality of your erections and libido? I ask because E2 is related to both of those.
I’ll be honest here, at .25 per week great. At .50 not as good.
Now I’m starting to understand the point being made here a little more than a couple days ago. That being said, I’m pretty sure that my docs would not raise my TC dose if my E2 went out of range. It’s hard to find a doc that understands how all this works.
I’m actually shocked myself. With the HCG I thought it would be way high. I’d dump the HCG and not worry as much but I love the way I feel on it.
What improvements do you get on HCG? I’m going to have to start back taking it soon for fertility purposes
My current numbers are similar.
I just got the results from my bloodwork, which was drawn yesterday in the morning. Later that same day my libido and erections were perfect, which I put to great use!
I ran a mini blood test that morning so I’m missing the big picture but TT was 945 and E2 20 (ECLIA range 7.6-42.6).
Current protocol is 140mg split into 3 injections/week. Also 10mg of aromasin with each injection.
Though I feel great now, I’ve yet to maintain stable symptom relief. Until I do, I only offer my experience not advice. So keep that in mind when reading this.
Here’s some of my blood work from last year while on a blast. No gyno, feel great, great libido, great erections @tony6
Sounds funny I know, but my balls almost feel like their glowing like there is activity going on. I didn’t get that feeling with straight TC, maybe I would have at a higher dose. The doc didn’t want to raise my TC dose but agreed to the HCG so my body would produce some on it’s own. It worked for me.
How do you get a Dr. to write a script that would get your TT so high? Or are finding TC on your own?
Bingo. I self treat. BTW, I’m 55. Not to much younger than you
Try no AI and keep your dose as is. Then if you feel better, thats a good result. Its simply one less component to be concerned with. Its not like your E is gonna run wild. It simply adjusts to your T levels. But the point is to feel better.
I’m willing to try that again. The last time I did my e2 went to 49 (scale <35) and I was really warm all the time with a slight headache. Not sure if it would have gone away, but didn’t want to sit in executive meetings sweating, it doesn’t lend itself well when you’re negotiating things and other guy sees you sweating, hehe.
Give it time for your body to adjust. I noticed that HCG makes me itch when I get too hot. I figured Ill adjust soon, although I do 100iu of HCG EOD. Low dose.
Bingo. Balanced the hormones by letting the body do what it does best.
Estrogen helps your body absorb and retain water. Low estrogen is what makes you sweat.
It very well could of been something unrelated to hormones. This is what most do with hormones. They have a symptom and boom it’s hormones.
If they weren’t taking hormones they wouldn’t complain because there’s nothing to easily blame.
There’s plenty of docs who don’t force ai on patients. Many of us have these types of docs.
I don’t think hormones are complicated. We simply give the body what it’s missing . We don’t need to go over complicate something that was never needing management naturally.
We know today that these hormones balance each other out. If estrogen rises so does feee f.
I to have encounter excessive sweating and the feeling overly hot when estrogen was confirmed high and my first time taking the AI the hotness feeling subsided almost immediately. It could also be an increase in red blood cell production.
Estrogen has effects on the cardiovascular system (blood vessels), so I wouldn’t exclude estrogen as the cause.
Leave Estrogen out of this already…
If you’re in the US and willing to pay out of pocket (about $150/month) any anti-aging place should work.
Do you take the .25 ai once a week, or split .125 twice per week
