The republicans are imploding faster than I can absorb the news…
I thought that the Woodward book was going to be a big issue, but it can hardly get any airtime anymore because the republicans are too busy getting Foley’d right now.
Never mind the various issues that have not really been discussed at any depth yet as they are squelched behind these bigger issues.
So, what’s next?
[quote]vroom wrote:
The republicans are imploding faster than I can absorb the news…
I thought that the Woodward book was going to be a big issue, but it can hardly get any airtime anymore because the republicans are too busy getting Foley’d right now.
Never mind the various issues that have not really been discussed at any depth yet as they are squelched behind these bigger issues.
So, what’s next?[/quote]
The Foley situation is a good distraction that was kept in the dark until needed.
[quote]vroom wrote:
The republicans are imploding faster than I can absorb the news…
I thought that the Woodward book was going to be a big issue, but it can hardly get any airtime anymore because the republicans are too busy getting Foley’d right now.
Never mind the various issues that have not really been discussed at any depth yet as they are squelched behind these bigger issues.
So, what’s next?[/quote]
“…issues discussed at any depth…”
What planet do you live on?
…“what’s next”
another election. Let’s reelect 95% of the idiots doing a crappy job and show them we really are happy with the status quo.
And just to be fair. I’ve yet to hear a dem. any dem, say anything with depth in a very long time as well.
Crap. I thought this thread was going to be about vroom FINALLY admitting to my mental superiority.
Oh well…
I would hope that they are imploding because of things like the never ending war, not the Foley shit. Although it is ironic, considering how they swept to victory back in '94 on the charges of how corrupt the Democrats were.
Until the Democrats win back Congress or Bush is impeached, I’m not going to be content.
The pedophile case is not indicitve of the party so much as one very, very fucked up individual.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I would hope that they are imploding because of things like the never ending war, not the Foley shit. Although it is ironic, considering how they swept to victory back in '94 on the charges of how corrupt the Democrats were.
Until the Democrats win back Congress or Bush is impeached, I’m not going to be content.
The pedophile case is not indicitve of the party so much as one very, very fucked up individual.[/quote]
He’s not a pedophile,
But hey anyone noticing how trendy it is for republicans to be alchoholics these days.
Cunningham.
Ney.
Foley.
Hastert for sure is my next guess.
First it was trendy for Repubs to be subjects of an investigation, then it was the whole “target” of an investigation, then “indicted”, then pleaing, then going to jai…
now they all want to be “alchoholics”.
I hope predator isn’t the latest fad for republicans, that’s so '73…
Whatever happened to the good ol days of taking an advance on your paycheck…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I would hope that they are imploding because of things like the never ending war, not the Foley shit. Although it is ironic, considering how they swept to victory back in '94 on the charges of how corrupt the Democrats were.[/quote]
Pshaw!
Nobody cares about minor unimportant issues like Iraq. Are you bent?
You’ve got major conservative pundits writing editorials, saying that the Republicans deserve to lose control of Congress in November.
Ouch.
[quote]Brad61 wrote:
You’ve got major conservative pundits writing editorials, saying that the Republicans deserve to lose control of Congress in November.
Ouch.
[/quote]
Yaaaaay BUSH!!!
Oh, wait, is this the wrong time for that?
And as self-imploded as the republican party is right now - the left STILL can’t get more votes than the right.
The right is doing everything it possibly can to turn the power over to the dems - but the dems are still behind.
And I’ll do you even this much: If the Dems would change their leadership to two individuals that even looked like they had a testicle between them - I would welcome a power shift.
But being as Pelosi is more man than than the left has had in some time - I doubt that will happen.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
And as self-imploded as the republican party is right now - the left STILL can’t get more votes than the right.
[/quote]
i’m still not sure that the democrats are going to gain much, if at all, next month. the republicans are a mess. of course, whichever party is in power for long periods is made to look a mess by the other party, enabled by a bored media. which too often is just to lazy to report on anything other than what the politicos tell them to report on.
so we have these stories of individual corruption and criminality all tied up in a nice package and called ‘republican’ issues. when - of course - they have nothing to do with ideology or political affiliation. they are relavant only to individuals and reflect one individuals shortcomings.
same goes for the democrats. we had waves of democrat scandals in the late 90’s. clinton’s front and center. ‘the vast right wing conspiricy’ was imagined. there IS a conspiricy, folks. it goes both ways. it’s a political conspiricy to make the OTHER guy look like a crook. a schmuck. an idiot. whatever works.
but when it’s all said and done conservatives will always win in the long run. because they are right and liberals are wrong. after all the bullshit, people know that. they get it. and when they get in that booth they can’t pull the trigger on michael dukakis, john kerry, al gore.
that’s why republicans have won 5 out of the last 7 presidential elections. that’s why they’ve predicted doom and gloom before and it has either not happened or been fairly muted.
the worse things get the more this nation needs serious people with good ideas. i think we all know who that is.
[quote]100meters wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I would hope that they are imploding because of things like the never ending war, not the Foley shit. Although it is ironic, considering how they swept to victory back in '94 on the charges of how corrupt the Democrats were.
Until the Democrats win back Congress or Bush is impeached, I’m not going to be content.
The pedophile case is not indicitve of the party so much as one very, very fucked up individual.
He’s not a pedophile,
But hey anyone noticing how trendy it is for republicans to be alchoholics these days.
Cunningham.
Ney.
Foley.
Hastert for sure is my next guess.
First it was trendy for Repubs to be subjects of an investigation, then it was the whole “target” of an investigation, then “indicted”, then pleaing, then going to jai…
now they all want to be “alchoholics”.
I hope predator isn’t the latest fad for republicans, that’s so '73…
Whatever happened to the good ol days of taking an advance on your paycheck…[/quote]
Hey, lumpy!!!
It amuses me that the ultimate democratic partisan has the gall to say “alcoholism” and “Republican” in the same sentence.
As usual, I have the trump card.
One word: kennedy.
Multiple kennedy’s.
I agree (gasp) with irish. This is a sick individual who disgusts me.
Doesn’t get any worse than pedophilia.
“But, they were only e-mails.” Bull. Disgusting.
Oh, let’s make very certain that democrats don’t EVEN THINK about trying to take the moral high ground.
You shot your moral bolt 1992-2000.
JeffR
[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
but when it’s all said and done conservatives will always win in the long run. because they are right and liberals are wrong. after all the bullshit, people know that. they get it. and when they get in that booth they can’t pull the trigger on michael dukakis, john kerry, al gore.
[/quote]
Haven’t they FACTUALLY been wrong about everything?
I mean congressionally, and presidentially–historically its gonna be horrible don’t ya think?
(oh and didn’t they pull the trigger on Gore?(again its the whole fact thing))
As I remember democrats represent more people than republicans, and have vastly more support at least in polls than republicans.
[quote]JeffR wrote:
100meters wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I would hope that they are imploding because of things like the never ending war, not the Foley shit. Although it is ironic, considering how they swept to victory back in '94 on the charges of how corrupt the Democrats were.
Until the Democrats win back Congress or Bush is impeached, I’m not going to be content.
The pedophile case is not indicitve of the party so much as one very, very fucked up individual.
He’s not a pedophile,
But hey anyone noticing how trendy it is for republicans to be alchoholics these days.
Cunningham.
Ney.
Foley.
Hastert for sure is my next guess.
First it was trendy for Repubs to be subjects of an investigation, then it was the whole “target” of an investigation, then “indicted”, then pleaing, then going to jai…
now they all want to be “alchoholics”.
I hope predator isn’t the latest fad for republicans, that’s so '73…
Whatever happened to the good ol days of taking an advance on your paycheck…
Hey, lumpy!!!
It amuses me that the ultimate democratic partisan has the gall to say “alcoholism” and “Republican” in the same sentence.
As usual, I have the trump card.
One word: kennedy.
Multiple kennedy’s.
I agree (gasp) with irish. This is a sick individual who disgusts me.
Doesn’t get any worse than pedophilia.
“But, they were only e-mails.” Bull. Disgusting.
Oh, let’s make very certain that democrats don’t EVEN THINK about trying to take the moral high ground.
You shot your moral bolt 1992-2000.
JeffR
[/quote]
Gee… I’ll trump your trump.
George
W.
Bush.
Alchoholic, drunk driver, and cocaine user.
Funny though, with half of your congress indicted you’d mention Kennedy for cover.
[quote]100meters wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
but when it’s all said and done conservatives will always win in the long run. because they are right and liberals are wrong. after all the bullshit, people know that. they get it. and when they get in that booth they can’t pull the trigger on michael dukakis, john kerry, al gore.
Haven’t they FACTUALLY been wrong about everything?
I mean congressionally, and presidentially–historically its gonna be horrible don’t ya think?
(oh and didn’t they pull the trigger on Gore?(again its the whole fact thing))
As I remember democrats represent more people than republicans, and have vastly more support at least in polls than republicans.
[/quote]
let’s see. the right was correct on stalin. he was a murderous barbarian. lefties called him uncle joe, the agrarian reformer.
they were subsantively and factually correct on how to wage the cold war. carter pushed for appeasement. reagan bankrupted them. it was proven again when clinton signed a ‘treaty’ with n. korea, then enabled them to build nukes. i’d say that was wrong.
no domestic terrorist attacks in five years. i’d say they are right on waging the war.
remind me what liberals have been ‘right’ on? abortion? gay marriage? higher taxes? the welfare state? socialized medicine?
history shows that the liberals come in, fuck things up (but it’s OKAY because they mean well). then the conservative adults have to come in for a few years, clean up the mess, defeat our enemies…
then the liberals can come back and play grown-up for awhile. raise taxes. allow our enemies to strengthen and flourish. disincentivize working. kill more babies (don’t FUCK with roe!). weaken defense…that kind of thing.
luckily there are serious people who can handle being unpopular with idiots like you. they do what needs to be done while assholes like you cry about it.
[quote]100meters wrote:
As I remember democrats represent more people than republicans, and have vastly more support at least in polls than republicans.
[/quote]
the polls say otherwise but they lose elections?
don’t tell me: the polls are not biased or rigged…the ELECTIONS are! i get it now!
Since both parties are collapsing, will we soon have the American version of the NSDAP? If we have a depression, watch for a fringe group, nationalistic in scope, to arise.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Since both parties are collapsing, will we soon have the American version of the NSDAP? If we have a depression, watch for a fringe group, nationalistic in scope, to arise.[/quote]
By all that’s holy I hope you’re wrong,but I think you may just be on the money.
History has a nasty habit of being circular in nature,and as the saying goes,those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
The most powerful nation on Earth in the hands of nationalistic demagogues?
Terrifying thought.
Althought the Dems will try and spin this as a Republican problem. Sex scandals are bipartisan in nature. It will have little if any effect on the elections, as the strategists know.
Congressional Sex Scandals in History
By Ken Rudin. washingtonpost.com
As the House prepares for a possible investigation of sex-related allegations concerning President Clinton, it’s worth taking a look back at how Congress has dealt with the frequent charges of sexual misconduct by its own members.
Here are 21 case studies. In most, Congress took little or no official action, leaving the fate of the accused to the voters.
This history begins in 1974, but not because episodes of sexual impropriety only go back a quarter-century. In the old days, they simply weren’t reported. In 1903, for example, the Speaker of the House, David Henderson (R-Iowa), was forced to resign over his sexual relationship with the daughter of a senator. Henderson never said why he was quitting, and neither did the press. But that was then, and this is now.
Mills | Hays | Young | Howe | Richmond | Hinson
Bauman | Evans | Crane | Studds | Konnyu | Adams | Bates | Lukens
Savage | Frank | Stangeland | Robb | Inouye | Packwood | Reynolds
1974
Rep. Wilbur Mills (D-Ark.)
On Oct. 9, 1974, Mills, the chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee and perhaps the most powerful member of the House, was stopped for speeding near the Jefferson Memorial at 2 a.m. Shortly after, Annabella Battistella ? a stripper who went by the stage-name of Fanne Foxe, the “Argentine Firecracker” ? jumped out of his car and into the Potomac River tidal basin. The incident did not immediately threaten Mills, whose district was solidly Democratic. But Mills won reelection with only 59 percent of the vote, his lowest total ever. Within weeks, Mills appeared on a Boston stage carousing with Foxe, apparently intoxicated. Faced with an uprising among House Democrats, Mills was forced to resign as Ways and Means chairman, and in 1976 he announced he would not seek another term, ending his 38-year House career. He was succeeded by Jim Guy Tucker, whose own ethics got the attention of Kenneth Starr some two decades later.
1976
Rep. Wayne Hays (D-Ohio)
In its May 23, 1976, editions, The Washington Post quoted Elizabeth Ray as saying that she was a secretary for the House Administration Committee, headed by Hays, despite the fact that “I can’t type, I can’t file, I can’t even answer the phone.” She said the main responsibility of her $14,000-a-year job was to have sex with Hays. The fall of Hays, an arrogant bully who was one of the most powerful ? and disliked ? members of Congress, was rapid. The House ethics committee opened its investigation on June 2. He resigned as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee on June 3. In the Democratic primary five days later, a car-wash manager/bartender who had run against Hays four previous times and never received more than 20 percent of the vote got 39 percent. Hays later resigned his committee chairmanship, dropped his reelection bid, and finally resigned on September 1.
Rep. John Young (D-Tex.)
On June 11, 1976, Colleen Gardner, a former staff secretary to Young, told the New York Times that Young increased her salary after she gave in to his sexual advances. In November, Young, who had run unopposed in the safe Democratic district five consecutive times, was reelected with just 61 percent of the vote. The scandal wouldn’t go away, and in 1978 Young was defeated in a Democratic primary runoff.
Rep. Allan Howe (D-Utah)
On June 13, 1976, Howe was arrested in Salt Lake City on charges of soliciting two policewomen posing as prostitutes. Howe insisted he was set up and refused to resign. But the Democratic Party distanced itself from his candidacy and he was trounced by his Republican opponent in the November election.
Rep. Fred Richmond (D-N.Y.)
In April 1978, Richmond was arrested in Washington for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy. Richmond apologized for his actions, conceding he “made bad judgments involving my private life.” In spite of a Democratic primary opponent’s attempts to cash in on the headlines, Richmond easily won renomination and reelection. But his career came to an end four years later when, after pleading guilty to possession of marijuana and tax evasion ? and amid allegations that he had his staff procure cocaine for him ? he resigned his seat.
1980
Rep. Jon Hinson (R-Miss.)
On Aug. 8, 1980, during his first reelection bid, Hinson stunned everyone by announcing that in 1976 he had been accused of committing an obscene act at a gay haunt in Virginia. Hinson, married and a strong conservative, added that in 1977 he had survived a fire in a gay D.C. movie theater. He was making the disclosure, he said, because he needed to clear his conscience. But he denied he was a homosexual and refused GOP demands that he resign. Hinson won reelection in a three-way race, with 39 percent of the vote. But three months later, he was arrested on charges of attempted oral sodomy in the restroom of a House office building. He resigned his seat on April 13, 1981.
Rep. Robert Bauman (R-Md.)
On Oct. 3, 1980, Bauman, a leading “pro-family” conservative, pleaded innocent to a charge that he committed oral sodomy on a teenage boy in Washington. Married and the father of four, Bauman conceded that he had been an alcoholic but had been seeking treatment. The news came as a shock to voters of the rural, conservative district, and he lost to a Democrat in November.
1981
Rep. Thomas Evans (R-Del.)
The Wilmington News-Journal reported on March 6, 1981, that three House members ? Evans, Tom Railsback (R-Ill.) and Dan Quayle (R-Ind.) ? shared a cottage during a 1980 vacation in Florida with Paula Parkinson, a lobbyist who later posed for Playboy magazine. All three proceeded to vote against federal crop-insurance legislation that Parkinson had been lobbying against, and questions were raised whether votes were exchanged for sex. Railsback and Quayle denied having sex with her. Evans said he regretted his “association” with Parkinson and asked his family and God to forgive him. But he forgot to include the voters, who in 1982 threw him out of office.
1983
Reps. Dan Crane (R-Ill.) and Gerry Studds (D-Mass.)
The House ethics committee on July 14, 1983, announced that Crane and Studds had sexual relationships with teenage congressional pages ? Crane with a 17-year-old female in 1980, Studds with a 17-year-old male in 1973. Both admitted the charges that same day, and Studds acknowledged he was gay. The committee voted to reprimand the two, but a back-bench Georgia Republican named Newt Gingrich argued that they should be expelled. The full House voted on July 20 instead to censure the two, the first time that ever happened for sexual misconduct. Crane, married and the father of six, was tearful in his apology to the House, while Studds refused to apologize. Crane’s conservative district voted him out in 1984, while the voters in Studds’s more liberal district were more forgiving. Studds won reelection in 1984 with 56 percent of the vote, and continued to win until he retired in 1996.
1987
Rep. Ernie Konnyu (R-Calif.)
In August 1987, two former Konnyu aides complained to the San Jose Mercury News that the freshman Republican had sexually harassed them. GOP leaders were unhappy with Konnyu’s temperament to begin with, so it took little effort to find candidates who would take him on in the primary. Stanford professor Tom Campbell ousted Konnyu the following June.
1988
Sen. Brock Adams (D-Wash.)
On Sept. 27, 1988, Seattle newspapers reported that Kari Tupper, the daughter of Adams’s longtime friends, filed a complaint against the Washington Democrat in July of 1987, charging sexual assault. She claimed she went to Adams’s house in March 1987 to get him to end a pattern of harassment, but that he drugged her and assaulted her. Adams denied any sexual assault, saying they only talked about her employment opportunities. Adams continued raising campaign funds and declared for a second term in February of 1992. But two weeks later the Seattle Times reported that eight other women were accusing Adams of sexual molestation over the past 20 years, describing a history of drugging and subsequent rape. Later that day, while still proclaiming his innocence, Adams ended his campaign.
Rep. Jim Bates (D-Calif.)
Roll Call quoted former Bates aides in October 1988 saying that the San Diego Democrat made sexual advances toward female staffers. Bates called it a GOP-inspired smear campaign, but also apologized for anything he did that might have seemed inappropriate. The story came too close to Election Day to damage Bates, who won easily. However, the following October the ethics committee sent Bates a “letter of reproval” directing him to make a formal apology to the women who filed the complaint. Although the district was not thought to be hospitable to the GOP, Randy “Duke” Cunningham, a former Navy pilot who was once shot down over North Vietnam, ousted Bates in 1990 by fewer than 2,000 votes.
1989
Rep. Donald “Buz” Lukens (R-Ohio)
On Feb. 1, 1989, an Ohio TV station aired a videotape of a confrontation between Lukens, a conservative activist, and the mother of a Columbus teenager. The mother charged that Lukens had been paying to have sex with her daughter since she was 13. On May 26, Lukens was found guilty of contributing to the delinquency of a minor and sentenced to one month in jail. Infuriating his fellow Republicans, Lukens refused to resign. But he finished a distant third in the May 1990 primary. Instead of spending the remaining months of his term in obscurity, Lukens was accused of fondling a Capitol elevator operator and he resigned on October 24, 1990.
Rep. Gus Savage (D-Ill.)
The Washington Post reported on July 19, 1989, that Savage had fondled a Peace Corps volunteer while on an official visit to Zaire. Savage called the story a lie and blamed it on his political enemies and a racist media. (Savage is black.) In January 1990, the House ethics committee decided that the events did occur, but decided against any disciplinary action because Savage wrote a letter to the woman saying he “never intended to offend” her. Savage was reelected in 1990, but finally ousted in the 1992 primary by Mel Reynolds.
Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.)
In response to a story in the Aug. 25, 1989, Washington Times, Frank confirmed that he hired Steve Gobie, a male prostitute, in 1985 to live with and work for him in his D.C. apartment. But Frank, who is gay, said he fired Gobie in 1987 when he learned he was using the apartment to run a prostitution service. The Boston Globe, among others, called on Frank to resign, but he refused. On July 19, 1990, the ethics committee recommended Frank be reprimanded because he “reflected discredit upon the House” by using his congressional office to fix 33 of Gobie’s parking tickets. Attempts to expel or censure Frank failed; instead the House voted 408-18 to reprimand him. The fury in Washington was not shared in Frank’s district, where he won reelection in 1990 with 66 percent of the vote, and has won by larger margins ever since.
1990
Rep. Arlan Stangeland (R-Minn.)
It was reported in January 1990 that Stangeland, married with seven children, had made several hundred long-distance phone calls in 1986 and 1987 on his House credit card to or from the residences of a female lobbyist. Stangeland acknowledged the calls and conceded some of them may have been personal. But he insisted the relationship was not romantic. Voters of his rural district were not buying, choosing a Democrat in November.
1991
Sen. Charles Robb (D-Va.)
On April 25, 1991, with NBC News about to go on the air with allegations he had an extramarital affair with Tai Collins, a former Miss Virginia, Robb made a preemptive strike. The Virginia Democrat, married to Lyndon Johnson’s daughter, said he was with Collins in a hotel room, but all that took place was a massage over a bottle of wine. Collins, in a subsequent interview with Playboy, said they had been having an affair since 1983. It was thought that these charges, along with long-circulated but unproven allegations that Robb had attended Virginia Beach parties where cocaine was present, would jeopardize Robb’s 1994 bid for re-election. But the GOP nominated Oliver North, the Iran-Contra figure who had his own credibility problems. Robb squeaked by with 46 percent in a three-way race.
1992
Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
In October 1992, Republican Senate nominee Rick Reed began running a campaign commercial that included a surreptitiously taped interview with Lenore Kwock, Inouye’s hairdresser. Kwock said Inouye had sexually forced himself on her in 1975 and continued a pattern of sexual harassment, even as Kwock continued to cut his hair over the years. Inouye, seeking a sixth term, denied the charges. And Kwock said that by running the commercial, Reed had caused her more pain than Inouye had. Reed was forced to pull the ad, and while many voters took out their anger on the Republican, Inouye was held to 57 percent of the vote ? the lowest total of his career. A week later, a female Democratic state legislator announced that she had heard from nine other women who claimed Inouye had sexually harassed them over the past decade. But the women didn’t go public with their claims, the local press didn’t pursue the story, and the Senate Ethics Committee decided to drop the investigation because the accusers wouldn’t participate in an inquiry.
Sen. Bob Packwood (R-Ore.)
Less than three weeks after Packwood narrowly won a fifth term, the Washington Post on Nov. 22, 1992, reported allegations from 10 female ex-staffers that Packwood had sexually harassed them. The Post had the story before the election, but didn’t run it as Packwood had denied the charges. With the story now out in the open, Packwood said that if any of his actions were “unwelcome,” he was “sincerely sorry.” He then sought alcohol counseling. But his longtime feminist allies were outraged, and with more women coming forward with horror stories, there were calls for his resignation. It wasn’t until September of 1995 when, faced with the prospect of public Senate hearings and a vote to expel, Packwood announced his resignation.
1994
Rep. Mel Reynolds (D-Ill.)
Freshman Reynolds was indicted on Aug. 19, 1994, on charges of having sex with a 16-year-old campaign worker and then pressuring her to lie about it. Reynolds, who is black, denied the charges and said the investigation was racially motivated. The GOP belatedly put up a write-in candidate for November, but Reynolds dispatched him in the overwhelmingly Democratic district with little effort. Reynolds was convicted on Aug. 22, 1995 of 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography, was sentenced to five years in prison, and resigned his seat on October 1.
Reynolds was then pardoned by Bill Clinton and hired by Jesse Jackson for a political patronage position.
[quote]100meters wrote:
JeffR wrote:
100meters wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I would hope that they are imploding because of things like the never ending war, not the Foley shit. Although it is ironic, considering how they swept to victory back in '94 on the charges of how corrupt the Democrats were.
Until the Democrats win back Congress or Bush is impeached, I’m not going to be content.
The pedophile case is not indicitve of the party so much as one very, very fucked up individual.
He’s not a pedophile,
But hey anyone noticing how trendy it is for republicans to be alchoholics these days.
Cunningham.
Ney.
Foley.
Hastert for sure is my next guess.
First it was trendy for Repubs to be subjects of an investigation, then it was the whole “target” of an investigation, then “indicted”, then pleaing, then going to jai…
now they all want to be “alchoholics”.
I hope predator isn’t the latest fad for republicans, that’s so '73…
Whatever happened to the good ol days of taking an advance on your paycheck…
Hey, lumpy!!!
It amuses me that the ultimate democratic partisan has the gall to say “alcoholism” and “Republican” in the same sentence.
As usual, I have the trump card.
One word: kennedy.
Multiple kennedy’s.
I agree (gasp) with irish. This is a sick individual who disgusts me.
Doesn’t get any worse than pedophilia.
“But, they were only e-mails.” Bull. Disgusting.
Oh, let’s make very certain that democrats don’t EVEN THINK about trying to take the moral high ground.
You shot your moral bolt 1992-2000.
JeffR
Gee… I’ll trump your trump.
George
W.
Bush.
Alchoholic, drunk driver, and cocaine user.
Funny though, with half of your congress indicted you’d mention Kennedy for cover.
[/quote]
lumpy:
You know what, I could go on and on with your party and their “morals.”
Where would it get us? Nowhere.
However, you are the one who specifically mentioned alcoholism.
Someone who isn’t wise to your playbook might infer that it’s only a Republican problem.
I’ll go so far as to say that both parties have their bad apples.
However, THE VERY MOMENT that you begin to act holier than thou, be prepared to be reminded about the sleaze that OOZES from your beloved democrats.
Cigar anyone?
JeffR