[quote]craze9 wrote:
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]craze9 wrote:
Well out of curiosity what kind of bodybuilding routine would you guys recommend for a beginner who bench presses 90 lbs?
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I wouldn’t even have them touch the weights at this point honestly. I feel like there wouldn’t be a lot of benefit. Instead, I’d have them spend a few months playing some sort of sport (something active, like football, basketball, hockey, soccer, wrestling, boxing, etc. Not so much golf, bowling, baseball, etc).
After developing some basic athleticism, coordination, and tenacity, I’d have the move on to bodyweight work for a few months. Dave Tate proposed the notion of not having a trainee touch the bench press until they could do 100 push ups, and I feel like it’s pretty sound advice honestly. Have some chins/inverted rows, sled dragging/lunges, ab work, etc thrown in to develop some foundational strength and body awareness.
The, after that, I’d have them move on to 5/3/1 and modify as needed for a while.
But that takes too long and no one wants to do it.
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That sounds pretty reasonable to me. The problem is the last part 
No “client” focused on physique changes is going to want to spend months playing a sport before hitting the weights.
I’m “training” a friend of mine with minimal fitness or athletic background and had him do a bodyweight routine very close to the “Teach a Kid to Lift” stuff for a few weeks while he was out of town. Now he’s doing Starting Strength. His squat is going up very quickly but his upper body strength still sucks. I’m curious to see how things develop over the next couple months.
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It’s definitely not a new story: the neophyte who doesn’t want to learn the fundamentals before getting to the “fun stuff”. Kids not wanting to learn scales before they jam, people trying to skip gun safety before hunting, etc. It’s one of the main reasons I don’t train people. However, whenever I witness a failure d
with someone running a popular beginner program, this is always the x factor.