[quote]Nards wrote:
I’m of the mind that calves are 3/4 genetic, 1/4 effort.[/quote]
Bullshit. If you put in ENOUGH effort, you can change the size of your calves. Limited thinking.[/quote]
I shouldn’t have put numbers on it like that then…but where your calf muscle ends and where the tendon starts limits the amount of growth you can have. I’m sure others know more about it than I do.
Here are mine, and I won’t bullshit by saying I built them with blood and guts training. I’ve gone through phases where I’ve done them twice a week hard for 3 months and they didn’t change much.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I’m of the mind that calves are 3/4 genetic, 1/4 effort.[/quote]
Bullshit. If you put in ENOUGH effort, you can change the size of your calves. Limited thinking.[/quote]
I shouldn’t have put numbers on it like that then…but where your calf muscle ends and where the tendon starts limits the amount of growth you can have. I’m sure others know more about it than I do.
Here are mine, and I won’t bullshit by saying I built them with blood and guts training. I’ve gone through phases where I’ve done them twice a week hard for 3 months and they didn’t change much.
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First, you have pretty good calves. I understand all the insertion point stuff. I just don’t buy into the thinking that you can’t significantly grow you calves regardless of your genetics. That goes for the rest of your body as well.
My message to anyone who thinks they can’t grow calves. What if someone came up to you and said not only will I kill you in 60 days but I will kill your whole family if you don’t put at least 3/4" on your calves in these 60 days. Do you think you could do it then? You would or you would die trying.
That’s the attitude I took when I significantly changed the size and shape of my calves. I worked them harder than anyone worked any other part in the gym. My intensity was through the roof. People would stop and stare from their workouts not believing the level of effort and intensity I was putting into my calf work out. I spent a half hour a day separate from my normal workout dedicated solely to calves.
[quote]Nards wrote:
I’m of the mind that calves are 3/4 genetic, 1/4 effort.[/quote]
Bullshit. If you put in ENOUGH effort, you can change the size of your calves. Limited thinking.[/quote]
I shouldn’t have put numbers on it like that then…but where your calf muscle ends and where the tendon starts limits the amount of growth you can have. I’m sure others know more about it than I do.
Here are mine, and I won’t bullshit by saying I built them with blood and guts training. I’ve gone through phases where I’ve done them twice a week hard for 3 months and they didn’t change much.
[photo]30870[/photo][/quote]
First, you have pretty good calves. I understand all the insertion point stuff. I just don’t buy into the thinking that you can’t significantly grow you calves regardless of your genetics. That goes for the rest of your body as well.
My message to anyone who thinks they can’t grow calves. What if someone came up to you and said not only will I kill you in 60 days but I will kill your whole family if you don’t put at least 3/4" on your calves in these 60 days. Do you think you could do it then? You would or you would die trying.
That’s the attitude I took when I significantly changed the size and shape of my calves. I worked them harder than anyone worked any other part in the gym. My intensity was through the roof. People would stop and stare from their workouts not believing the level of effort and intensity I was putting into my calf work out. I spent a half hour a day separate from my normal workout dedicated solely to calves.
It can be done IF you really want it.[/quote]
This is kind of the attitude I am taking now, I’m also been incorporating a lot of body weight calf raises at home just to give them extra work. I’m working them 5 days a week, only giving them a break the day before I work my legs.
There is always something that can be altered if growth isnt happening.
First, define ‘Training hard.’ Do you go heavy and high reps? Do you do light and higher reps? Are you sure you hit both the Gastroc and the soleus? Maybe you arent achieving enough of a stretch in the calf/using too much momentum. A good protocol to follow is completely stop at the bottom, and double pop (get a 2nd pinch) at the top. Maybe you should include Dropsets.
If you havent seen growth for years, then it’s probably something that you are doing wrong.
I personally only train my calves 1x a rotation, on my chest day. I do 2 exercises, usually lasting 4-6sets each, and i use some heavy ass weight, with the occasional dropset thrown in. I have good size calves id like to think, and i didnt when i first started lifting.