[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol,
I know a girl that fucked one of our teachers. Our 3rd grade teacher to be precise, that’s creepy…[/quote]
Where do you meet these people?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol,
I know a girl that fucked one of our teachers. Our 3rd grade teacher to be precise, that’s creepy…[/quote]
Where do you meet these people?[/quote]
Truck stops are usually a good bet.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol,
I know a girl that fucked one of our teachers. Our 3rd grade teacher to be precise, that’s creepy…[/quote]
It wasn’t while she was in third grade was it?
I’m assuming holymac’s thread was linked here at some point…
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol,
I know a girl that fucked one of our teachers. Our 3rd grade teacher to be precise, that’s creepy…[/quote]
Where do you meet these people?[/quote]
Elementary school aparently…
o_O I see what you did there.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol,
I know a girl that fucked one of our teachers. Our 3rd grade teacher to be precise, that’s creepy…[/quote]
It wasn’t while she was in third grade was it?[/quote]
Thankfully no.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
You are a union. They represent YOU and your brothers and sisters… You CAN affect change in these kinds of arbitrary and discriminatory policies if you wanted to. I would. But then again, I like banging 21 year olds regularly. I’d be damned if I let my employer dictate to me who I can or cannot fuck on MY time in MY life.[/quote]
This is true, but there is also a legal case law precedent that sides with the school district on these morality dismissals, as long as the districts can show evidence that private behavior has somehow impacted the classroom environment. So with or without union contracts, school districts and their attorneys have previous court cases to serve as legal justification if they get countersued; apparently even the judicial system believes that teachers have to be held to oftentimes unreasonably high social standards.
I didn’t realize it was quite this strict when I entered the profession, but in all honesty for the most part it hasn’t been a constant issue for me. I do enjoy the actual rewarding aspects of the job itself, and the pay and benefits, at least here, are fairly reasonably commensurate with the hours worked versus the time off, etc.
Your 34 and she’s 20? Can you not find someone your own age? I know that sounds really harsh, but I mean really. If I was 34 I would want to date an adult, not a kid. Im 21 myself, and thats something I would never do. But, what ever you think is best for yourself, do it. Don’t worry about what bunch of strangers think on the internet.
[quote]Young33 wrote:
Your 34 and she’s 20? Can you not find someone your own age? I know that sounds really harsh, but I mean really. If I was 34 I would want to date an adult, not a kid. Im 21 myself, and thats something I would never do. But, what ever you think is best for yourself, do it. Don’t worry about what bunch of strangers think on the internet.[/quote]
How old are you? Can you say for sure what you’ll feel in the future? And besides, what YOU feel has little bearing on what HE feels…
If he want’s to fuck 19 year old midget strippers with orange hair when he’s 75, that’s HIS RIGHT… As long as it isn’t breaking any laws or infringing on another person’s rights, what does anyone else have to say about what another person wants? It’s none of our business…
[quote]Young33 wrote:
Your 34 and she’s 20? Can you not find someone your own age? I know that sounds really harsh, but I mean really. If I was 34 I would want to date an adult, not a kid. Im 21 myself, and thats something I would never do. But, what ever you think is best for yourself, do it. Don’t worry about what bunch of strangers think on the internet.[/quote]
I could, but why should I?
If you cant compete with a geezer like me, you think public shaming will help your cause?
Am I a woman?
Are you?
In fact, if you are clever, use the 35 and upwards women as a stepping stone to learn how its done, they are all totally smart and sophisticates and whatnot, right?
There is an underserved market right her if you dig StrongindependentwomenTM.
Go for it dude, its our loss.
[quote]orion wrote:
If you cant compete with a geezer like me, you think public shaming will help you?[/quote]
Lol. Exactly what I was thinking when I read that.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Young33 wrote:
Your 34 and she’s 20? Can you not find someone your own age? I know that sounds really harsh, but I mean really. If I was 34 I would want to date an adult, not a kid. Im 21 myself, and thats something I would never do. But, what ever you think is best for yourself, do it. Don’t worry about what bunch of strangers think on the internet.[/quote]
I could, but why should I?
If you cant compete with a geezer like me, you think public shaming will help your cause?
Am I a woman?
Are you?[/quote]
What do you mean public shaming? And “geezer”? I thought you said you were 34 haha how is that a geezer?
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]Young33 wrote:
Your 34 and she’s 20? Can you not find someone your own age? I know that sounds really harsh, but I mean really. If I was 34 I would want to date an adult, not a kid. Im 21 myself, and thats something I would never do. But, what ever you think is best for yourself, do it. Don’t worry about what bunch of strangers think on the internet.[/quote]
I could, but why should I?
If you cant compete with a geezer like me, you think public shaming will help your cause?
Am I a woman?
Are you?[/quote]
Also, oops I thought you were the op when I replied to that,
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Young33 wrote:
Your 34 and she’s 20? Can you not find someone your own age? I know that sounds really harsh, but I mean really. If I was 34 I would want to date an adult, not a kid. Im 21 myself, and thats something I would never do. But, what ever you think is best for yourself, do it. Don’t worry about what bunch of strangers think on the internet.[/quote]
How old are you? Can you say for sure what you’ll feel in the future? And besides, what YOU feel has little bearing on what HE feels…
If he want’s to fuck 19 year old midget strippers with orange hair when he’s 75, that’s HIS RIGHT… As long as it isn’t breaking any laws or infringing on another person’s rights, what does anyone else have to say about what another person wants? It’s none of our business…[/quote]
This is true, I really can’t say how I would feel in the future. But, I would like to think that I would at least not date a 20 year old at 34. And I pretty much said what anyone of us says here has no bearing on the op in my post. But, he did ask for a bunch of strangers opinions, so here they are. Regardless of how he takes them.
[quote]Young33 wrote:
And I pretty much said what anyone of us says here has no bearing on the op in my post. But, he did ask for a bunch of strangers opinions, so here they are. Regardless of how he takes them.
[/quote]
I wanted to have an unbiased gauge as to whether or not ordinary persons would find it overly creepy, because I may be one of the few people whose professional career could be adversely impacted by overly negative public opinion due to working directly with adolescents. It wasn’t exactly a question that was good to circulate among co-workers or HR/admin, so this venue actually proved beneficial.
[quote]Young33 wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]Young33 wrote:
Your 34 and she’s 20? Can you not find someone your own age? I know that sounds really harsh, but I mean really. If I was 34 I would want to date an adult, not a kid. Im 21 myself, and thats something I would never do. But, what ever you think is best for yourself, do it. Don’t worry about what bunch of strangers think on the internet.[/quote]
How old are you? Can you say for sure what you’ll feel in the future? And besides, what YOU feel has little bearing on what HE feels…
If he want’s to fuck 19 year old midget strippers with orange hair when he’s 75, that’s HIS RIGHT… As long as it isn’t breaking any laws or infringing on another person’s rights, what does anyone else have to say about what another person wants? It’s none of our business…[/quote]
This is true, I really can’t say how I would feel in the future. But, I would like to think that I would at least not date a 20 year old at 34. And I pretty much said what anyone of us says here has no bearing on the op in my post. But, he did ask for a bunch of strangers opinions, so here they are. Regardless of how he takes them.
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If a 20 year old woman is old enough to date a 20 year old man, she’s old enough to date a 34 year old (or a 60 year old for that matter). Either she is mature enough to make relationship decisions for herself or she isn’t.
There is no evidence to suggest that as men age they have shifting standards for attractiveness in women. If a woman is attractive to a twenty year old man, it’s not odd that she would be attractive to a 34 year old man.
A 34 year old man in good shape could be in fantastic shape and would likely have more power and status than a 20 year old man, so it’s not odd that a woman would find the 34 year old attractive.
One would hope that the 34 year old is capable of making his own relationship decisions.
So two consenting adults are choosing to have a relationship and it’s not odd that they are attracted to each other. What bothers you?
I am 24 years older than my second wife. The vast majority of marriages have at least 3 or more years Between partners, almost invariably the male is older. Historical studies show that often there was a considerable age gap (I think in one Finnish village it was an average of like 16 years) between partners. The reason is that guys matures more slowly and frankly women are worth a lot more than men, since they can bear children. An older guy has his life debugged to the point he can actually hold together a relationship and a household.
The rise of the service economy changed that, since women do not need to rely on men directly for anything. Feminism took the above fact as a point of departure that since marrying young is exactly what a woman wants to do in a pre-industrial/agrarian society, it is oppressive to do so. A lot of the public revulsion at age gaps is driven by this ideology and does not reflect on what the choices of the people in the relationships want.
Ok, let us be clear, both my wife and I have Ph. D.'s in the hard sciences and she hits the roof whenever someone asks about our gap because of the implication that she is incapable of making a decision about her own well being. Reducing everyone to a number (their age) is heartless in the extreme. She is thrilled to have a level-headed husband who adores her and is more than willing to be her accomplice in most anything she wants to do. Yes, I do have a simply fabulous marriage and a lot of this is because I am old enough to play grown-up too. She found guys her age to be almost completely insufferable because of their lack of maturity.
(One of my other friends is trying to get her early 20-something daughter to find someone older. Seems she just broke up with her last boyfriend and has needed restraining orders against him and at least a couple others. Her mom dearly wants her to find a grown-up to date and that means, in her estimate, at least a decade older. Think about that.)
So, here is what I would say: Relationships take work and dedication. If you are dating her and she can’t pull that off, then you have no business being in a relationship with her, regardless of age. Be sure that you meet her parents/family and your major job there is to convince them she made a good choice and is being level-headed. (After I met my wife’s family they agreed we were the best matched couple they’d seen and endorsed us enthusiastically. Pretty much everyone agrees with that, btw still.)
$.02
– jj
P.S. I didn’t answer your question: How young is too young? The youngest age-wise you can date is 17. Federal law only recognizes 18 as the legal age of consent and a lawyer friend of mine once told me of a client who got (edit almost) into federal trouble with texting his 17 year old girlfriend. Since the texts went to an out of state server then back, it became a federal matter. He was of age of consent, but that doesn’t matter.
(In this case the client was being basically threatened by the local DA to cut a plea bargain on something completely unrelated (auto theft or some such) and since they had access to his cellphone, told him if he didn’t take their bargain they’d just have to turn everything over to the Fed. With a 10 year minimum for federal charges too, btw, vs. a couple of years otherwise. I have no idea how that case turned out. I think he confessed to the theft charges and went away to state prison.)
Point is that laws now concerning age of consent have zero wiggle room. Do not even pretend they don’t. The state will look at her birthday and charge you if they can. Some states have Romeo and Juliette laws if both parties are under age of consent but that does not apply to you.
– jj
[quote]jj-dude wrote:
Federal law only recognizes 18 as the legal age of consent and a lawyer friend of mine once told me of a client who got (edit almost) into federal trouble with texting his 17 year old girlfriend. Since the texts went to an out of state server then back, it became a federal matter. He was of age of consent, but that doesn’t matter.
– jj[/quote]
For what purpose?
State law generally supplies the age-of-consent rules to sexual contact. Exceptions might be child pornography laws and limited circumstances involving prostitution, sex trafficing or cases that involve state border crossings. I suspect “texting” involved images of minors, i.e., child pornography, not mere consent to sexual contact.