[quote]APE. wrote:
Fairly tough I’d say; out of roughly (very rough estimate) 33 fights I have been in I’d say maybe 2 I was left on the ground; an those 2 times it was my father that pommeled me. Rest of the time I was left standing over them or down w/ one knee on their neck.
I have no martial arts or any type of training really.I’ll go rounds on a speed bag for the hell of it but thats not really training.
Now mental toughness;I know my I’m off the charts. I’m use to pain; physical pain…after my lung transpant I was awake for when they punctured my sides and put the 5 chest tubes in between my ribs. I stay awake for my sinus surgeries (chronic sinuses an polyp scraping) I use to change my own feeding tube (when I had one…no longer do)
Before my transplant (BI-LATERAL LUNG) my O2 SATS were @ 72/73, and I’d go for walks, supposedly the normal man passes out @ 83 and below keeping still; there’s a few other examples I could use but i’ll refrain from them.[/quote]
Wow, only one person has actually said they wouldn’t do well. Everyone else (including me) has come up with some bullshit story about how their childhood in the ghetto has left them hardened and tough. Gotta love the modesty on this site :D.
[quote]APE. wrote:
Fairly tough I’d say; out of roughly (very rough estimate) 33 fights I have been in I’d say maybe 2 I was left on the ground; an those 2 times it was my father that pommeled me. Rest of the time I was left standing over them or down w/ one knee on their neck.
I have no martial arts or any type of training really.I’ll go rounds on a speed bag for the hell of it but thats not really training.
Now mental toughness;I know my I’m off the charts. I’m use to pain; physical pain…after my lung transpant I was awake for when they punctured my sides and put the 5 chest tubes in between my ribs. I stay awake for my sinus surgeries (chronic sinuses an polyp scraping) I use to change my own feeding tube (when I had one…no longer do)
Before my transplant (BI-LATERAL LUNG) my O2 SATS were @ 72/73, and I’d go for walks, supposedly the normal man passes out @ 83 and below keeping still; there’s a few other examples I could use but i’ll refrain from them.[/quote]
Are you on ati rejection therapies…
does that mean sneezing on you will have the desired affect>:)
If i had to guess maybe 70 percent. the rest would be better trained or more mentally commited.
A better question is “how can i improve my 60 yds dash to run away”.
I would question motivation. life/death (same for both), attacking girlfriend (i will win or die trying) would alter a probable outcome. As i did mma for a while, i can take people on the floor. mma is rare in the UK so i would fancy my chances. also, choking and strangling would be less effective against me as you become mentally toughened and dont panic.
Also, i am physically stronger than a lot of guys out there, and as i worked on doors would have a more measured control over fear and adrenelin, at least i think i would.
I’m a Lover not a fighter! I’d rather get the pussy than fight. In my younger days I was a brawler (usually over girls.) I’ve kicked ass and had my ass kicked. Now, I have too much self control for fighting. These days, if you’ve made me mad enough to fight you, than you’ve fucked up, cause you’ve probably messed with my family and I’m going to put you down like a rabid dog. Mossberg, Browning, M1 Carbine, etc… pick your poison. Oh yeah, dumb thread. A T-man doesn’t worry about the number of asses he can kick; he enters the fray for what is right regardless.
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
Wow, only one person has actually said they wouldn’t do well. Everyone else (including me) has come up with some bullshit story about how their childhood in the ghetto has left them hardened and tough. Gotta love the modesty on this site :D.[/quote]
“chuckels!”
Yes, even in annonimity, we can really lay it on thick!
I kind of avoided answering how many I would beat in my earlier post i just said i was game so bring them on im young naive was an all american wrestler and have been doing BJJ since i was 10 i recently went to NAGA World Championships I was in the Open Advanced division with the big boys of MMA i won a few matches against the no namers like myself and got my ass handed to be by the bad mother fuckers now when it comes to street fighting im a pussy to be honest i avoided the shit out of every fight possible but when needed to i kick ass I have been always taught by my father that I should never fight unless necessary and if you do fight win if you cant win hurt them more than they hurt you
I’ve been in a number of fights and I can tell you that what you think you can do has nothing to do with what will truely happen. It’s completely different from how it plays out in your head. Saying you can predict the outcome of a fight is a virgin saying he thinks he can handle any girl in bed cause “Yo I jerk off like 4x a day”.
How tough (able to fight) do you really think you are? For example, out of 100 random guys aged 21 to 41 how many would you be able to beat up?
Do you think that you are a better fighter than only 10 of them? Do you think you could handle 70 of them? Think you are bad enough to ranked at the top?
To be clear, I am talking about one on one encouters where no one has an emotional, or any other advantage other than what he brings with his two fists (feet etc).
How tough does the typical T-Man think he is?
First off, this is not an interesting question and needs much clarification.
I would say a T-Man is someone who has dedicated their time and money using Biotest products and following strict nutrition and work-out ethics.
So that being said, I would say the average T-Man has atleast a 50% chance to “beat-down” the average body-builder given the same weight-class, fighting-style, and using the rules of the bout, if any.
However, there are elite T-Men who frequent this site from time-to-time, and I say they would have around a 90% or greater to demolish “any” non-steroid-using, human being of equivalent size and weight.
To be a T-Man is to be fierce, powerful, and dedicated. Even if you need to dedicate the time to kick someone’s ass!
[quote]dond1esel wrote:
I have no training or height/reach or grip to speak of, and I have not yet been in a fight in life, but I am strong and heavy.
I have no clue. Let’s say 50, for being stronger and emotionally darker than at least the half of the population that is untrained and/or well-adjusted. Maybe 60.
However, I have a chronic fear of going to punk some 160 pound jerk who is ogling my sister only to find out he is actually a professional MMA welterweight. That sure would suck.
What do you think would be the most efficient way to boost your number?[/quote]
Good question. Answer: If you want to get better at something you perform that specific task. That’s one reason why the Karate, TKD guys who play spar (tag) don’t get it. That is not a real fight. And in fact won’t help you (could hurt you) in a real fight. It’s like practicing your foul shot by aiming for the rim each time! Gotta be real!
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
I hate to say it, but strength isn’t everything when it comes to a fight, flame away :).[/quote]
I agree. What are the other essential components, in your opinion?
As for myself, I’d definetly spring for the “fight club” idea, provided that the fights were evenly matched based on age or weight (I’m 17, 145). I don’t have any MMA training like so many others here (karate lessons at 9 don’t count), but I think that oriental fighting techniques are largely over-rated and more for show than actual use. I’d be more wary of a seasoned boxer than any blackbelt. But ultimately, the best fighters are those who fight without rules. To tell a fighter what he can and can’t do in the ring and call it a “sport” runs contrary to the primal nature of fighting. I’m a very confrontational person and would relish the opportunity to test my fighting ability against others of similiar age or weight.
I think level of toughness is better based on how hard you kick your own ass.
Beating down someone doesn’t test your toughness… its the shots you take back that test your toughness. Someone who goes out and constantly tops a PR is tougher than the bully who can beat up his entire class.
Honestly… being a T-Nation reader would you be more impressed by a man setting a new deadlift record or someone who was able to put away 100 men?
Im sure with good research I could find 100 people that I could take down… doesn’t make me tough.
Lance Armstrong is tough…
He couldn’t kick anyones ass… but the pain he has to endure to win the TDF makes him damn tough.
Mentality has a lot to do with winning fights or anything for that matter. I don’t know much about MMA fights but I’d be willing to bet that the winner has a very high mental superiority as much as a physical superiority. You’ve got to be able to take that shot to the head and still keep standing.
Mental prowess > physical prowess and Mental prowess leads to physical prowess…
[quote]Al Shades wrote:
GriffinC wrote:
I hate to say it, but strength isn’t everything when it comes to a fight, flame away :).
I agree. What do you think are the other essential components?[/quote]
Experience. Skill. Mind set? It’s very hard to explain. There are so many components. Alot have to do with how you are thinking, or if you are thinking at all.
There is controle, then there is instict. It takes a strong sense of the two, and a perfect balance.
I find it too hard to explain in words, but if you travel down the path of martial arts, I’m sure you will find the answer.
[quote]GriffinC wrote:
Experience. Skill. Mind set? It’s very hard to explain. There are so many components. Alot have to do with how you are thinking, or if you are thinking at all.
There is controle, then there is instict. It takes a strong sense of the two, and a perfect balance.
I find it too hard to explain in words, but if you travel down the path of martial arts, I’m sure you will find the answer.[/quote]
Yes, I’ve put a lot of thought into the issue and reached similiar conclusions. I consider myself extremely tough mentally, but have little to no fighting experience. I do stay in great shape, however, and my natural physique is far more akin to that of an MMA fighter or boxer than a football player or heavyweight wrestler.
I’d beat 99 out of 100…because there is always one guy who is tougher then you!
Seriously I don’t know. I am 42. But I am in good shape and had a “city” upbringing. Brawled all my life. Still stick my nose in where it shouldn’t be and occasionally have to answer for it. I guess I look at my peers and say no problem. Then I look at some of the 30 yr old snake eaters and say…discretion is the better part of valor. My guess based on size, weight and experience 75 out of 100.
Ultimately it depends on the stakes. Trying to find out who is the toughest guy in a bar doesn’t interest me. Protecting myself or my family does.
[quote]hedo wrote:
Ultimately it depends on the stakes. Trying to find out who is the toughest guy in a bar doesn’t interest me. Protecting myself or my family does.[/quote]
Great point! If there was a prize or something that needed to be accomplished, alot of people would perfrom differently.
