How do you guys train on steroids? Do you change anything or do you just stick with what you have been doing etc.? Any certain approaches that you guys really like?
I stick with what I’ve been doing. I do find Im able to do more in terms of loads or reps or maybe even sets. So I might increase volume a bit. I tend to shy away from increasing frequency although that can be done IMO provided you compensate appropriately with respect to loads.
I believe if youre on gear you can increase the volume and frequency, also everything should be ramped up on gear because why fuck around if your juicing.
No major differences for me.
I usually increase the workload a little bit, but I make a conscious effort not to overdo it; I’ve had too many injuries on the backends of cycles. I primarily focus on increased strength… the rest tends to fall in place.
I usually add an extra day. I use a 6 day split instead of 5. My desire to workout gets ramped up on cycle so it helps in that department too.
I add an extra exercise or sometimes two to every day in the 5 day split.
So instead of 5 exercises or so depending on the bodypart, I will do 6.
Extra volume by a fairly considerably amount, an extra 125 reps or so a week or more, but in something fairly new and different that I dont do often and varies significantly from the other exercises that I normally do.
And I focus heavily on strength on all lifts.
Ive tried simply adding sets to key lifts, such as bench or deadlifts, but I find adding a whole new exercise to be more effective.
after you do 5 sets of heavy deads or rows, adding a 6th set is just overkill, its worth more to do some pullovers instead.
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I’ve been increasing my loads but only to the point that I can still do the exercises with fairly good form and slowly in both directions. I try to make the weight hurt.
I know that I could do more by sacrificing some form or doing the sets faster (which I do make some sacrifice here and there to progress) but in general I’m making a concerted effort to avoid injury.
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[quote]DieSucka wrote:
I’ve been increasing my loads but only to the point that I can still do the exercises with fairly good form and slowly in both directions. I try to make the weight hurt.
I know that I could do more by sacrificing some form or doing the sets faster (which I do make some sacrifice here and there to progress) but in general I’m making a concerted effort to avoid injury.
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Lifting faster under control will bring better gains than lifting slow under control. You should be trying to move the load as explosively as possible. I am assuming you are training for size and strength and not endurance when I make that point.
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Anyone ever tried something like the Westside approach or DC Training on gear?
I have tried Westside and I know of a couple others that have while “on”. Like nearly everyone mentioned, stick to what you’ve been doing or run a training program that you like prior to going “on”, deload for a week or two and then go “on” under that same program, increasing any combination of loads, volume, and frequency.
I like to plan my training days out for the entire time I’m on cycle, proposed weights and sets and exercises are all planned out way ahead of time. I don’t like to fuck around. If I have a ME Bench day planned with Floor Presses being the ME exercise, I want to focus on that and know that it’s coming around the corner, not decide the day of my scheduled ME Bench day to do Floor Presses. This way, I can plan things out accordingly and make changes ahead of time during the cycle, in the event of an injury or illness. Also, plan your diet out roughly too, matching your goals that you have in mind.
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[quote]matrick wrote:
Anyone ever tried something like the Westside approach or DC Training on gear?[/quote]
Can’t offer advice about westside or training while “on”. But for DC blasts tend to be shorter rather than longer due to people making bigger jumps in weights.
I am training DC while on right now. I’m just running a simple Test-E and Dbol cycle. Unfortunately, I left my bottle of dbol out the other day and my girlfriend thought she’d do me a favor and hide it from my roommate, but the lid wasn’t on tight. So I only got two weeks into that and now it’s gone.
Anyway, I train DC using the three workouts per week when offcycle…when on I do a MONTUES/THURSFRI routine. I concentrate more on form though as lifting heavy weights near to the point of failure while on AAS doesn’t negate the possibility of injury.
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[quote]matrick wrote:
Anyone ever tried something like the Westside approach or DC Training on gear?[/quote]
Yup. Westside is easier and better on than off. But I pretty train Westside or my variation of it year round.
[quote]saps wrote:
matrick wrote:
Anyone ever tried something like the Westside approach or DC Training on gear?
Yup. Westside is easier and better on than off. But I pretty train Westside or my variation of it year round.[/quote]
X2 about Westside. I saw excellent strength gains on it and I’ve been using the template for almost a year now, so it’s not ‘newb’ gains from switching a program.
I can’t comment on DC training, though.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
saps wrote:
matrick wrote:
Anyone ever tried something like the Westside approach or DC Training on gear?
Yup. Westside is easier and better on than off. But I pretty train Westside or my variation of it year round.
X2 about Westside. I saw excellent strength gains on it and I’ve been using the template for almost a year now, so it’s not ‘newb’ gains from switching a program.
I can’t comment on DC training, though.[/quote]
ill times 3 the westside comments.
For the westside guys, do you do just the basic template or do you also perform all the extra sessions?
[quote]matrick wrote:
For the westside guys, do you do just the basic template or do you also perform all the extra sessions?[/quote]
without them and lots of GPP it isnt westside, well thats the way i look at it.