How to Succeed in Business and in Life

I just finished reading the latest Atomic Dog and I saw some intresting things in it. I don’t know if TC meant it, but the life he described is the life lived by those in the military.

“Live by the clock”, “Wear the uniform of conformity”, “Become obsessed with rank”, “always do what those in authority say because they know best” and “Be one of the sheep” are all fundamental principles of every military institution in the world.
Avoiding beautiful women, being gutless and not perspiring are the only things in the article that the military isn’t for.

Thinking in terms of black and white is something the military does, which is something that has seeped down to the civilians. Soldiers kill whoever they’re told to kill and think that they’re side is in the right. If everyone would stop and think that thier side isn’t necessarilly the holy side, be it USA, Afghanistan, Israel, Palistien or whoever, maybe the world would be a better place.

What are your thoughts on this?

There was a study done in Ottawa schools where they found that much of what happens in schools is teaching a ‘hidden curriculum’, where the students learn to value materialism, work over play, competition, obedience to authority and attentiveness. Their success in school had less to do with mastery of the official curriculum and the their ability to conform to the hidden curriculum. So the students who were made for leadership & higher positions learned different skills from the ones who were going to end up in the working-class & middle-class positions. I thought that was really stupid, it’s like all the work someone could do would go to waste if theyy can’t/won’t do what a teacher says. :frowning:

I thnk you are an idiot, sir. Military officers, and even down to platoon leaders and their equivalent use their best personal judgement in countless situations. Even though they may have doubts, they do obey orders. Without this, the military would collapse, and we would not have an effective fighting force. One of the marks of a good leader is the ability to think originally and quickly under pressure. The type you describe would not even make a good private. Your post is completely devoid of intellectual content, and borders on the retarded. Seldom have I seen a more glaring case of someone posting on a subject they obviously have no knowledge of. All of us are the poorer for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

You guys know I cann’t let this one pass. So here is a very long post. Most of it is taken from RANGER SCHOOL, NO EXCUSE LEADERSHIP by Brace Barber.
The following are the US Army Principles of Leadership and which lessons illustrate them:

*Seek responsibility and take it for your actions. *Make sound and timely decisions.
*Set the example. *Employ your unit in accordance with its capabilities. *
Keep your soldiers informed. *
Know yourself and seek self-improvement. *Be technically and tactically proficient. *Know your soldiers and look out for their well-being. *Develop a sense of responsibility in your subordinates. *Ensure that the task is understood, supervised and accomplished. *

Discussion of Seek responsibility and take it for your actions.
As a leader, you take responsibility for the success or failure of a job. You pass credit for accomplishment to the team and accept responsibility for a failure, regardless of the reason. You have to cut yourself off from excuses and focus on solutions. This idea of not giving excuses or ‘reasons’ is perhaps the most misunderstood and difficult concept to grasp for most people. This is not a zero-defect mentality. The fact that you stop the reasons at your level and pass on to your boss, “There is a delay, but a solution is in hand,” is continuing to maintain leadership of, and responsibility for, your team. If, however, a superior’s support or guidance is needed, it should be sought.
The first time you stop yourself from giving a perfectly legitimate reason why the job did not get done will be tough, but do it, and then do it again. Emotionally, you have burned your bridges and must now succeed. You will see yourself start to succeed beyond your peers who allow themselves ‘reasons’ to fail. Discussion of Know yourself and seeking self-improvement. If you have never pushed yourself, how can you know what you are capable of? How can you know what others are capable of? Many people in leadership positions are afraid to test the physical and mental limits of their organizations because they do not know if they themselves can handle the stress. If you are attempting to get more out of your subordinates, doesn’t it make sense that you should know how to motivate them to do more? You should be able to draw on your past experiences to find what motivated you to substantially exceed the standard and translate that to your employees to get them to do substantially more than the standard.
You must learn your limits. Through the process of doing that, you will also build self-esteem. Good self-esteem and a high self-image are important in a leader. Self-esteem does not come from always succeeding. It comes from achieving a tough goal after failing. It comes from the natural comparison a person makes between himself and the person who did not succeed. This comparison is not a judgment of the other person. It simply gives value to the achievement and to the person who achieved it. What good is a competition if everyone wins, or if you win but your opponent was not trying or designed to lose?
Whatever goal you set, if it is high enough and hard enough, by definition, you must question yourself somewhere along the way, “Do I really want to do this? Is the reward that great?” You will rationalize how little you want the reward, and you must think about how much easier it would be if you were to rest, if only for a little while. If you do that, you are pushing yourself. If you quit, you quit; you lose for now. If you continue to try, you are among the minority. If you continue to quit, you are part of the majority. It does not matter what excuse you make. They all have the same result - failure. If you continue to try and succeed, you are part of the elite, a winner.
These high goals give you the opportunity to develop the habit of making the right decisions in times of duress. The point you must remember is that in order to continue to be a winner you must continue to set higher and higher goals and accomplish them. Please do not ever rest on your laurels. Your competition is with yourself, not the person next to you. The person who displays persistence and consistence will win every time. Over time, dripping water wears down the rock.
The lack of perseverance is what causes most people to quit. Perseverance is not tested in good times, it is tested in times of stress. The third principle that makes it all work.
It is essential that you hold yourself to this standard, but as a leader in a non-dictatorial organization you cannot force your team members to embrace this philosophy. You can only teach it and use it yourself as an example of doing what is right. This truth brings to light the importance of arguably the most important leadership principle, Set the example. Trying to force this philosophy on others is a losing game, it is something each individual must accept responsibility for, himself.
Give them something to take away from the class for the long term.
Write down your leadership philosophy. What is your bedrock? What principles do you base your decisions on? Do you even know? Write them down; record your principles. As a leader, with high personal and team goals, you will come against obstacles and into confrontation. You will face conflicting and divergent opinions and forces - your vision must prevail. Without good knowledge of the principles behind your goal, the reasons why you do what you do, you will fold under pressure. Instead, understand yourself logically and be able to develop intelligent arguments to sell, defend and push your purposes forward. Another saying warns, “You had better stand for something or you’ll fall for anything.” Knowing yourself and the reasons behind your goals is the beginning of standing for something.
For those of you who what to read more do a search: Military, leadership.
Ranger School is the most intensive leadership school on earth and it does not produce unthink robots.
The military does not seep down to the civilian population. The military is composed of a unique subset of the population, since it is now volunteer.
T-men and T-vixen would do well to adopt some of the Ranger Leadership characterists.
I know these are confusing times, but I believe the point of the TC’s Article was to encourge us not to be sheep.
Best of Luck.

On the contrary, Huck, I believe he makes a good point. Sorry if it just hit a sore spot for you personally. However I think it is less a matter of suppressing individuality and has more to do with this way just being the best way to organize and run an efficient and effective military. By no means are they brainwashed.

you did’nt just miss the point of the article,you buried your head in the dirt while it went over your head…please tell me you are 7 years old and have no idea about the workings of corperate america…military was not even a consideration of the article…watch the people in your neiborhood you can see this scenerio play out a million times…

If one does some research into the American school system, one would discover that both American public schools and the higher education diploma system was vased on the turn of the century German education system. This system was quite consciously designed, and later adopted, for the express purpose of making children into good citizens – to promote obedience, and hard-working loyalty to the state, instead of promoting critical thinking or education. And by conscious design, if one does the research you’ll find many quotes by the designers and those who adopted it for the United States who quite expressly stated this purpose. I haven’t researched if this system was also purposefuly adopted by Canada, as well, but it would not be surprising.

I think even the most fanatical pro-Americans would agree that our primary education is extremely lacking among developed nations, although most people like to think that such shoddy education somehow skipped them and the problem is affecting someone else, somewhere else. Just a quick perusal of the horrible use of language on this and other internet boards is evidence enough. Most everyone here has graduated from high school, yet half the posts would lead someone to believe that there is only one way to spell ‘there/their/they’re’…or ‘here/hear’…or ‘your/you’re.’ The examples are endless. And I don’t mean occasional typos, slip-ups from replying to something too quickly, or intentional use of slang, that’s something totally different. I just mean people who genuinely don’t know the differences of spelling and usage of these and other words.

Usually I really enjoy what TC writes and he is an excellent writer. But, somewhere along the way, he must have been kicked in the teeth by an authority figure who in a position of power, used his power to intimidate the weak. Anyway, my point is, rebellion or lack of authority orientation, especially to parents but to coach teacher or whomever, sets up the person to lose in life, generally. Now, what TC did is a positive; he made a success out of himself despite what wrongful authority did to him.

You are corrct sir. I wasn’t really that upset. Half my post was lifted directly from Billy Madison, and was meant to be humorous.

First I think most people here missed the point of boozy’s post. It’s not about the effectiveness of military protocols. Obviously you can’t question orders in a battle situation etc etc. I think he ment more along the lines if people kept a more open mind and had a less myopic view of reality, the world or at least their value systems. Which I would have to agree with him. :slight_smile:

To quote Scipio “reellion or lack of authority orientation…sets up the person to lose in life” What it really does is encourage conformity in a system that rewards conformity. That is the reason it is different to be “succesful” being rebelious in a system of conformity, not the nature of rebelion. To echo what elegua said read anything written by John Taylor Gatto. Ny city and state teacher of the year who freely admits our system is designed to create citizens that will conform, compartmentalize time, and not question authority. Better known as success in the Western world.