How to Beat Anderson Silva

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I just re-watched the fight. You can argue that Hendo mainly Layed and Prayed in the first round if you want, fair enough, but he won the round. If he’d kept doing that he would’ve won the fight. The question of this thread was “How to Beat Anderson Silva,” not “How to Knock Out Anderson Silva.”

In the second round Hendo spent a LOOOOT of time agreeably striking with Anderson instead of going for takedown attempts. Did he clinch up at one point and try to take him down? Yes, but that’s about it. He was willing to kickbox with him for a LOOONG time, as opposed to looking for every opportunity to take Anderson down, as he did soon into the first round. And that’s what cost him the fight. That’s not just Henderson’s claim, it’s a fact.

[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
BTW… hendo DID try his same gameplan again… watch the fight the only difference is that Silva STOPPED his takedown attempts and then was in a world of pain. Hendo can talk all the shit he wants about “just didn’t execute my gameplan” the tape doesn’t lie… it looked exactly like the first round except he couldn’t get a takedown (so he could dry hump silva)[/quote]

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He seems to have a weakness towards japanese people!

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[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
He seems to have a weakness towards japanese people![/quote]

Yoshihiro Akiyama…we’ll never see it happen though.

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[quote]drewh wrote:
I think Frank Mir had it right Fedor is pound for pound not as good as other champs. Put Urijah Faber, Kid Yama, BJ, GSP, Silva and Torres with their skills at 155 against a Fedor that’s 155 they all win. [/quote]

Maybe, but put Urijah, Kid, BJ, GSP, Silva and Torres at HW and Fedor would mow through them all. Having to cut down to 155 would leave Fedor so emaciated and weak that it would be impressive if he could even get into the cage and fight.

Fedor might not be as explosive as GSP, but then no heavyweight in history is as explosive as Welterweights (they simply have more weight/inertia to overcome and thus can’t possibly move as quickly).

He might not be as good a wrestler as GSP, Urijah or Kid (on paper), but he has beaten equally skilled (if not more) wrestlers (Randleman, Coleman) on several occasions before.

He might not be as technically good at striking as Anderson, but he flat out bullied another heavyweight striker who is as technical a HW striker as has ever set foot in an MMA ring (Cro Cop). Who has Anderson whooped on who was a “better” striker than him?

You have to take into consideration that the lighter weight guys are always going to be faster, more explosive and more dynamic fighters than the heavyweight guys. It’s physics. They have less mass to maneuver, which gives them an edge in terms of athletic attributes. Make all of those fighters get up to heavyweight, and now all of the sudden they aren’t going to be as fast, explosive, agile or “athletic” anymore.

That’s one of the problems with the “pound for pound” argument. Some weight classes will always have the advantage in some areas, some will have it in others. Put everyone in the ring though, and 99 out of 100 times the heavyweights are going to come out with their hands raised if you were to have everyone actually fight (at their natural weights). That’s why there are weight classes in the first place.

Finally, Fedor has 1 MMA career loss. You could make an argument for Urijah, Torres or Kid in terms of record that they are on the same level as Fedor. Everyone else that you mentioned has lost more than once. But even then, Fedor’s and Kid’s only loss was via a cut. Urijah lost via TKO to Tyson Griffin and Torres lost a UD to Ackerman. So, only really Kid has a legitimate argument IMO.

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Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Anderson is indeed a great champion, but he has shown kinks in his armor. A very weak and washed out Travis Lutter took him down at will for 2 rounds and had Anderson in legitimate trouble (mounted) before finally getting caught in a triangle.

Anderson won that fight and deserves credit for it. But had Lutter actually had some conditioning he may have been able to pull off an upset. Regardless, he showed that Anderson is suseptible to being taken down and could be beaten there (in fact that’s really the only place he has been beaten before).

Either that or someone who could outstrike him and take him out of his game. Or at least understood how to strategically nullify his advantages.

Now as to the question of who could actually pull that off, I really don’t see anyone in the MW division doing it.[/quote]

Silva was pissed at Luter not making weight and chose to put himself in that position to embarrass him.

Remember how he won? Remember what he said afterwords?

He wanted to humiliate Luter.

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Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

[quote]StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl. [/quote]

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[quote]Damici wrote:
Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

[/quote]

Shame on you, Damici. Shame on you. You know what you did.

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What did I do?

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

Shame on you, Damici. Shame on you. You know what you did.[/quote]

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[quote]Damici wrote:
What did I do?

WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

Shame on you, Damici. Shame on you. You know what you did.

[/quote]

You know EXACTLY what you did. Think about it, brother.

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Ummmm . . . I . . . I made some coherent sense?

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
What did I do?

WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

Shame on you, Damici. Shame on you. You know what you did.

You know EXACTLY what you did. Think about it, brother.[/quote]

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I think GSP is one guy who could actually beat Silva. I mean GSP is a good striker, not on the level of Silva of course because very few if any are. However GSP is freakishly athletic and a great wrestler. I know Silva is much bigger then any opponent GSP has ever fought but i really think he could take Silva down and grind out a decision. The only problem is however that GSP is a very proud fighter ( as he has stated) and he might want to prove something and try to stand with Silva which would not work out well for him.

However saying that i dont think i really want to see this fight just because i dont want to see the weight classes all mixed up.

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Crank is one of the greatest cinematic adventures ever.

Isn’t David Carradine starring in the sequel?

[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
What did I do?

WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

Shame on you, Damici. Shame on you. You know what you did.

You know EXACTLY what you did. Think about it, brother.[/quote]

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[quote]Damici wrote:
Ummmm . . . I . . . I made some coherent sense?

WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
What did I do?

WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

Shame on you, Damici. Shame on you. You know what you did.

You know EXACTLY what you did. Think about it, brother.

[/quote]

Fine, Damici. I give up. Let your shame eat away at you like cancer, sir.

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[quote]Vash wrote:
Crank is one of the greatest cinematic adventures ever.

Isn’t David Carradine starring in the sequel?

WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
What did I do?

WolBarret wrote:
Damici wrote:
Anything could happen, but I wouldn’t be surprised if Anderson schooled Chuck. I don’t know if that fight would ever go to the ground.

StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

Shame on you, Damici. Shame on you. You know what you did.

You know EXACTLY what you did. Think about it, brother.

[/quote]

I have yet to see the movie and I doubt I ever will. Its too…Fast and the Furious for me.

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
Anderson is indeed a great champion, but he has shown kinks in his armor. A very weak and washed out Travis Lutter took him down at will for 2 rounds and had Anderson in legitimate trouble (mounted) before finally getting caught in a triangle.

Anderson won that fight and deserves credit for it. But had Lutter actually had some conditioning he may have been able to pull off an upset. Regardless, he showed that Anderson is suseptible to being taken down and could be beaten there (in fact that’s really the only place he has been beaten before).

Either that or someone who could outstrike him and take him out of his game. Or at least understood how to strategically nullify his advantages.

Now as to the question of who could actually pull that off, I really don’t see anyone in the MW division doing it.

Silva was pissed at Luter not making weight and chose to put himself in that position to embarrass him.

Remember how he won? Remember what he said afterwords?

He wanted to humiliate Luter.

[/quote]

Well, like I said, he deserves credit for pulling out the victory, and I do remember him saying that he wanted to beat Lutter at his own game.

But I seriously doubt that he wanted to get mounted by Lutter. He certainly didn’t look like he was giving Lutter the first takedown (the others could be debateable). And he was just praying that Lutter would try for an arm bar when he was mounted (by the way that arm bar attempt by Lutter was terrible).

Lutter also has a history of having some piss poor conditioning, even when he makes weight (i.e. his fight against Franklin).

Daiju Takase was able to take Silva down, control him there and eventually tap him via a triangle choke. Once again an example to illustrate that if Silva does have a weakness it’s being taken down, controlled and submitted by a good grappler. Henderson was able to take him down in the first round, but didn’t have the skills once there to finish the job.

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[quote]StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl. [/quote]

true true

both love to bang on their feet… i think if chuck beats rashad… which he prolly will, we might see this come to fruition!!!

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[quote]ZeusNathan wrote:
StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

true true

both love to bang on their feet… i think if chuck beats rashad… which he prolly will, we might see this come to fruition!!!
[/quote]

I’m not clairvoyant but I think Griffin-Liddell is the big moneymaker fight the UFC want to put together ASAP, so that’ll probably come first.

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[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
ZeusNathan wrote:
StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

true true

both love to bang on their feet… i think if chuck beats rashad… which he prolly will, we might see this come to fruition!!!

I’m not clairvoyant but I think Griffin-Liddell is the big moneymaker fight the UFC want to put together ASAP, so that’ll probably come first.[/quote]

I’ve got money on Chuck beating Evans this weekend, and if it goes that way I’m betting, we will see this down the road. After TUF 3,412 that is.

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[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
ZeusNathan wrote:
StonesAreFun wrote:
Personally, I’d love to see Anderson v. Chuck. Think about it: They’ve both got that weird body-type (long limbs, short torso), both excellent strikers, both willing to go in and bang. Silva would certainly have the advantage on the ground, but I’m not sure he could make it past Chuck’s sprawl.

true true

both love to bang on their feet… i think if chuck beats rashad… which he prolly will, we might see this come to fruition!!!

I’m not clairvoyant but I think Griffin-Liddell is the big moneymaker fight the UFC want to put together ASAP, so that’ll probably come first.[/quote]

i dont think anyone cares about griffin
i sure dont
silva constantly requests more fights, and everyone wants to see him fight.