If I need to raise my test levels to a normal range, without shutting myself off, what will be a good HRT amount?
The doctor was suggesting 250mg of Test Cyp every 10 days. To me, that would be just enough to suppress my natural levels and not raise anything. My levels are under 200.
Should I just wait and not do anything until my natural levels rebound? My production is still shut down after 15 weeks from my last cycle with an excellent PCT.
Any exogenous testosterone will suppress natural production to a greater or lesser extent, depending on the dose. I expect that 250 mg of test every ten days would completely suppress natural production and cause testicular atrophy and scrotal retraction.
A common TRT dose is 100 mg every seven days and that can put men in the normal to high normal range.
You should post this question on the steroid forum for other steroid users to see. Fifteen weeks of low testosterone sounds distressing. I hope your HPTA eventually recovers.
This is a good, even high dose for TRT. 250 mg/10 days = 175 mg/week. Many are on only 100-125 mg/week for TRT although others are higher. I am on 140 mg/week injecting 70 mg twice a week to keep aromatization low and the T level consistent.
[quote]ProfBush wrote:
This is a good, even high dose for TRT. 250 mg/10 days = 175 mg/week. Many are on only 100-125 mg/week for TRT although others are higher. I am on 140 mg/week injecting 70 mg twice a week to keep aromatization low and the T level consistent.[/quote]
Do you atrophy with this amount?
Have you ever conceived or attempted to? In other words, have you ever had your sperm count checked?
Test cyp at 100 mg/wk will cause testicular atrophy. hCG at 250 units SQ every other day will bring them back to near normal size. There may be a point of no return after years and cycles of suppression, however, but I an not knowledgeable on that subject. My endocrinologist said that the HPTA was fairly resilient, in response to my questioning him on the subject.
BUT, testes need both FSH and LH to function properly, absent in someone taking test cyp (and hCG). Testes need both FSH and LH to make testosterone and sperm, both required for normal fertility. hCG by itself won’t solve the fertility problem. What is needed is an intact HPTA.
I assume you want children someday. You need professional help to preserve or recapture your natural testosterone and sperm production.
Testosterone has been tested as a male contraceptive. It was pretty effective.
[quote]army stud wrote:
ProfBush wrote:
This is a good, even high dose for TRT. 250 mg/10 days = 175 mg/week. Many are on only 100-125 mg/week for TRT although others are higher. I am on 140 mg/week injecting 70 mg twice a week to keep aromatization low and the T level consistent.
Do you atrophy with this amount?
Have you ever conceived or attempted to? In other words, have you ever had your sperm count checked? [/quote]
I started to have some atrophy, but then I started using HCG @ 250 IU 2-3 times per week and they plumped back up. As far as sperm count, I turn 60 in a couple of weeks and have no desire to father any more children. I have heard of men fathering children on full TRT when they used HCG.
[quote]army stud wrote:
ProfBush wrote:
This is a good, even high dose for TRT. 250 mg/10 days = 175 mg/week. Many are on only 100-125 mg/week for TRT although others are higher. I am on 140 mg/week injecting 70 mg twice a week to keep aromatization low and the T level consistent.
Do you atrophy with this amount?
Have you ever conceived or attempted to? In other words, have you ever had your sperm count checked? [/quote]
I started to have some atrophy at this dose of T but I started using 250 IU HCG 2-3 times per week and the boys plumped back up. I turn 60 in a couple of weeks and have no desire to father any more children. I have heard of people fathering children while on full TRT and using HCG. I would talk to an experienced physician (they are hard to find) or do extensive research if fertility is a concern for you.