[quote]Professor X wrote:
Stu, I do them with my arms bent and I will challenge you on overall shoulder development even though you may be leaner than me currently. Let’s not think in a box.
I have gone up to 75lbs for side lateral raises. That was right before I started using the machine more for this movement because it causes less strain on my upper arm. My lateral head didn’t really begin to sit out there until I was using greater than the 45lbs dumbbells. I do swing a little. I have seen Vic Martinez do partial raises with the heaviest dumbbell he can hold for that movement.
I think the one thing that can hold people back (assuming they understand the difference between swinging a little and all out cheating to the degree of promoting injury) is the belief that you need some sort of straight armed perfect form with no swinging EVER to build great shoulders.
My guess is, most of the guys with really big shoulders do swing a little the heavier they go…and it works.[/quote]
i know this is not a recent post, but here is jay cutler doing his laterals with a very noticeable bend in his elbows…and he is not even going extremely heavy.