How Much Do You Know About Christianity?

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That quiz is as intelligent and biblically accurate as the story of the guy who goes to the bible for advice. He says ok God, I’ll read the first passage that I open to and I will obey. SO he opens it up and reads “and Judas went out and hanged himself.” he sits puzzled for a minute - decides he did something wrong and let’s the Bible fall open one more time and reads . . .“Go thou and do likewise.”

Moral of the story - just because you read it in the Bible doesn’t mean you got it right . . .

BTW - got a 46 because I have heard all of these ridiculous pick-n-choose passages before, kind of like reading any book and taking random passages to prove non-existent points . . . wait - no it is exactly like that!

what a colossal waste of time . . .

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[quote]Varqanir wrote:
Sloth wrote:

But you said it yourself, the Israelites had been specifically addressed. The New Covenant is for all.

Not according to the Book of Jeremiah.

[i] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:

Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.[/i]

Are you a member of the house of Judah or Israel? No?

Even if the New Covenant does apply to Gentiles, then they are obligated to follow all of the laws. After all, Jesus said:

[i]Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.[/i]

Bear in mind that Paul was a Pharisee.

So, Sloth, how’s that beard coming? Remember to not trim the edges.[/quote]

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[quote]pookie wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
Indeed. There is nearly 2,000 years of Christian theology addressing reconciling the Old Testament with the New, the allegorical nature of Revelation, and much else.

Doesn’t it strike you as odd that the “Good Book” requires 2000 years of theological reconciliation to make sense? And even after that, it’s still full of bizarre passages.

I think God overreached. He should’ve stuck with the “10 rules on stone tablets” format. Concentrate on coming up with better rules, instead of going for the overly long, confusing novel that completely changes plot in the middle.
[/quote]

WIN!

V

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[quote]pat wrote:
Why are you seeking to mock Christianity? A bible quiz from an atheist website, really? Seems a transparent effort to bash religious folk. I guess if you need to do so to feel better about yourself, go ahead. I will not play.[/quote]

You can look up every freaking verse from that “atheist website” and…wait for it…ITS ALL TRUE. Its not a transparent effort to bash religion. I find it more along the lines of ‘how in the hell can people believe this’. I for one pray to the flying spagetti monster, or the one eyed one horned flying purple people eater. They seem nicer than the vengeful god described in that book.

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[quote]Buff HardBack wrote:
pat wrote:
Why are you seeking to mock Christianity? A bible quiz from an atheist website, really? Seems a transparent effort to bash religious folk. I guess if you need to do so to feel better about yourself, go ahead. I will not play.

You can look up every freaking verse from that “atheist website” and…wait for it…ITS ALL TRUE. Its not a transparent effort to bash religion. I find it more along the lines of ‘how in the hell can people believe this’. I for one pray to the flying spagetti monster, or the one eyed one horned flying purple people eater. They seem nicer than the vengeful god described in that book.[/quote]

good for you . . .whoop-dee-doo, and your opinion is going to change the world . . .LMAO!

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[quote]Oleena wrote:
I spent 14 years as a die hard Christian. During that time I studied the Bible with mentors who majored in theology and grew up in Africa as kids of a missionary doctor.

I already did because even as an atheist, I was suprised at a few of these. [/quote] <–You get better every post lol!

Oh yeah, I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness, hardcore of hardcorez. Had to put on the little penguin outfit (I had a bitchin’ red bow tie like Pee-Wee) every day to go to the meetings and what not. Had to walk around telling people that their beliefs were false and that if they didn’t sign up they will be destroyed with Satan while we laugh at their death in our promised land.

They made me read become fluent with the Bible. It really robbed me of having a normal childhood. No Christmas presents, no birthday parties, zip, nada. I was the Damien (The Omen) equivalent when I hit 6 years of age. I had to be free. I lit things on fire during the meetings. I would throw narly fits and pick up chairs or whatever I could pick up and throw it across the room. I was a little porker so physically restraining me was a challenge. I realized I was truly alone when everything around me began to turn to shit, when people of faith suffered relentlessly, when truly good people were getting the shaft. I realized then that anything I do on planet Earth is only accomplished through my hand not His. If anything I’m partial to the teachings of Anton LaVey. Good post though.

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[quote]IrishSteel wrote:
Buff HardBack wrote:
pat wrote:
Why are you seeking to mock Christianity? A bible quiz from an atheist website, really? Seems a transparent effort to bash religious folk. I guess if you need to do so to feel better about yourself, go ahead. I will not play.

You can look up every freaking verse from that “atheist website” and…wait for it…ITS ALL TRUE. Its not a transparent effort to bash religion. I find it more along the lines of ‘how in the hell can people believe this’. I for one pray to the flying spagetti monster, or the one eyed one horned flying purple people eater. They seem nicer than the vengeful god described in that book.

good for you . . .whoop-dee-doo, and your opinion is going to change the world . . .LMAO!
[/quote]

Whose opinion are we talking about??

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Yeah I rock I got a 24!

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Pushme and IrishSteel, I am going to give you a chance to convert me back to Christianity right now. I swear to you that I am being serious, and if there is a good answer to this that does not involve the following, I will return to Christianity (when I was a Christian, I loved being a Christian) 1. Saying God is anything less than all knowing, because that’s been clearly stated in the Bible or 2. You cannot hold God to the same standards as men, because in this case the grievance is enormous and I would not want to follow someone who was this petty/selfish/unethical according to the most basic parenting standards. In other words, as a parent, it is your responsibility to look out for the well being of your offspring. Not 1% or less of them, but all of them.

First of all, as I mentioned, it’s stated that God is all knowing (Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)

In Revelations it states that most of the earth will be destroyed in the endtime, and only a very small percentage of all of humanity that ever existed will make it into the kingdom of Heaven.

Now I ask you- if you were going to have 10 children, and you knew from far before the moment that you conceived them that 9 of them were going to CHOOSE TO BURN IN HELL, would you have 10 children?

Think carefully on this answer as not to be hypocritical. If you support or use birthcontrol in any manner, you are choosing in the opposite direction that God did.

I cannot ethically follow a God who plays games with his children, the end result of which is far more than 99% burning in hell.

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[quote]Oleena wrote:
and you knew from far before the moment that you conceived them that 9 of them were going to CHOOSE TO BURN IN HELL, would you have 10 children?
[/quote]

This is an absolutely contrived, artificial situation and doesn’t exist outside “the kingdom of your skull.”

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I hate using the term atheist to dedcribe myself because there is so much hate for the word, and we are generally viewed as a cold-hearted, sarcastic, snobbish crowd by god-fearing religions. Many god-fearing people think that we will not even begin to consider Christianity because the devil has hardened our hearts and that’s just the way it is. But I’m forced to use that word because I saw a comedy skit a while back that perfectly describes what I think happens when you die (basically, you go back into the earth and become fertilizer and that’s that).

I used to really love being a Christian. It took me 8 years of not getting answers from the people I’d viewed as religious authorities to even say that I didn’t believe in it anymore. I wanted it to be true in the way that you want your favorite fairy tale to come to life and suck you up and take you away from the cruel world.

I still secretly wish I could find someone to answer the question I posted above in a way that is neither contradictory to the written word, nor a slap-stick “God knows best”.

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
Oleena wrote:
I spent 14 years as a die hard Christian. During that time I studied the Bible with mentors who majored in theology and grew up in Africa as kids of a missionary doctor.

I already did because even as an atheist, I was suprised at a few of these. <–You get better every post lol!

Oh yeah, I was raised a Jehovah’s Witness, hardcore of hardcorez. Had to put on the little penguin outfit (I had a bitchin’ red bow tie like Pee-Wee) every day to go to the meetings and what not. Had to walk around telling people that their beliefs were false and that if they didn’t sign up they will be destroyed with Satan while we laugh at their death in our promised land.

They made me read become fluent with the Bible. It really robbed me of having a normal childhood. No Christmas presents, no birthday parties, zip, nada. I was the Damien (The Omen) equivalent when I hit 6 years of age. I had to be free. I lit things on fire during the meetings. I would throw narly fits and pick up chairs or whatever I could pick up and throw it across the room. I was a little porker so physically restraining me was a challenge. I realized I was truly alone when everything around me began to turn to shit, when people of faith suffered relentlessly, when truly good people were getting the shaft. I realized then that anything I do on planet Earth is only accomplished through my hand not His. If anything I’m partial to the teachings of Anton LaVey. Good post though. [/quote]

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[quote]Oleena wrote:
Pushme and IrishSteel, I am going to give you a chance to convert me back to Christianity right now. I swear to you that I am being serious, and if there is a good answer to this that does not involve the following, I will return to Christianity (when I was a Christian, I loved being a Christian) 1. Saying God is anything less than all knowing, because that’s been clearly stated in the Bible or 2. You cannot hold God to the same standards as men, because in this case the grievance is enormous and I would not want to follow someone who was this petty/selfish/unethical according to the most basic parenting standards. In other words, as a parent, it is your responsibility to look out for the well being of your offspring. Not 1% or less of them, but all of them.

First of all, as I mentioned, it’s stated that God is all knowing (Psalm 139:2-6; Isaiah 40:13-14)

In Revelations it states that most of the earth will be destroyed in the endtime, and only a very small percentage of all of humanity that ever existed will make it into the kingdom of Heaven.

Now I ask you- if you were going to have 10 children, and you knew from far before the moment that you conceived them that 9 of them were going to CHOOSE TO BURN IN HELL, would you have 10 children?

Think carefully on this answer as not to be hypocritical. If you support or use birthcontrol in any manner, you are choosing in the opposite direction that God did.

I cannot ethically follow a God who plays games with his children, the end result of which is far more than 99% burning in hell.[/quote]

Have you tried seeking fellowship in the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints?

Their version of Christianity is much different than the fire-n-brimstone, medieval barbarism most of us grew up with – with a few strict difficult lifestyle choices that are not a part of Christianity.

For one, you don’t get to burn in hell you just get ostracized and then you are left out of the Kingdom of God – which to them is their own form of hell.

I think the Polygamy aspect of it is great…as a man.

:slight_smile:

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[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Oleena wrote:
and you knew from far before the moment that you conceived them that 9 of them were going to CHOOSE TO BURN IN HELL, would you have 10 children?

This is an absolutely contrived, artificial situation and doesn’t exist outside “the kingdom of your skull.” [/quote]

I really wish. Look up Revelations chapter 7. If you want more info on how everyone who is not sealed by god will die, read the whole book.

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Oleena,

From your above post it seems your mind is made up. So why start such a thread (which is loaded from the start), and just believe what you believe? Why do people need to affirm their sensibilities with other people? If you are an atheist, then so be it. At the end of the day, you have to be happy with you. You bring your second guessing here in this thread to prove what? Just be happy you are an atheist and call it a day already.

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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
Oleena,

From your above post it seems your mind is made up. So why start such a thread (which is loaded from the start), and just believe what you believe? Why do people need to affirm their sensibilities with other people? If you are an atheist, then so be it. At the end of the day, you have to be happy with you. You bring your second guessing here in this thread to prove what? Just be happy you are an atheist and call it a day already. [/quote]

Probably because debating religion is so much fun. You get such great reactions from people.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Oleena wrote:
I spent 14 years as a die hard Christian. During that time I studied the Bible with mentors who majored in theology and grew up in Africa as kids of a missionary doctor.

To this day I’m still baffled by how little people understand the religion and the text of the religion that they ascribe to.

To this day I’m still baffled by how little people understand the religion and the text of the religion that they wet their panties over when bashing it.

[/quote]

Excellent! So you have a good answer to the question I posed above, a way of reconcilling the many inconsistencies already pointed out in the bible, and a way of doing it where I would feel god’s love shining through you? No? Damnit!

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[quote]Oleena wrote:
katzenjammer wrote:
Oleena wrote:
and you knew from far before the moment that you conceived them that 9 of them were going to CHOOSE TO BURN IN HELL, would you have 10 children?

This is an absolutely contrived, artificial situation and doesn’t exist outside “the kingdom of your skull.”

I really wish. Look up Revelations chapter 7. If you want more info on how everyone who is not sealed by god will die, read the whole book.

[/quote]

Oleena, I was referring to your “if you knew that 9 of them were going to CHOOSE TO BURN IN HELL” hypothetical. Once again, this is an absolutely contrived, artificial situation and doesn’t exist outside “the kingdom of your skull.”

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In other words, you have no answer.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Oleena wrote:
Pushme and IrishSteel, I am going to give you a chance to convert me back to Christianity right now. I swear to you that I am being serious, and if there is a good answer to this that does not involve the following, I will return to Christianity…

Sweetheart, you need to make your salvation deals with God, not me or Mr. Steel.[/quote]

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[quote]Buff HardBack wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Oleena,

From your above post it seems your mind is made up. So why start such a thread (which is loaded from the start), and just believe what you believe? Why do people need to affirm their sensibilities with other people? If you are an atheist, then so be it. At the end of the day, you have to be happy with you. You bring your second guessing here in this thread to prove what? Just be happy you are an atheist and call it a day already.

Probably because debating religion is so much fun. You get such great reactions from people.[/quote]

No, obviously it’s because she’s insecure in her atheist faith.