This is my first post on this site, Ive been a long time viewer, but previously used other forums for info, although I don’t know why, you guys really know your stuff.
So I did a Test/Deca cycle last winter 500mg/500mg a week. I started Using HCG at the beginning of the fourth week and 250x 2 a week, all the way until 3 days prior to PCT. It was a 12 week cycle. My PCT consisted of Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 50/50/50/50. Unfortunately it was not strong enough because after my PCT I felt as though my Test levels dropped dramatically. I had lost my libido, energy, and strength in the gym. I waited till almost two months after my pct was complete to get bloodwork done. And the results showed that my Free test FSH and LH levels were half of the range base…super low. I have just ordered a bunch of stuff to try again with a 6 week post cycle consisting of aromasin, hcg, nolva, and clomid. I am hoping it works well for me. My question is, with test levels that low, how much muscle do you think I would be losing in the months that I have been having this problem?
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
another deca dick situation ? wont need trt but will take a year max to recover… but with hcg and a proper pct what went wrong scratching head
deca ??[/quote]
Possible answer could be due to starting pct before the deca had cleared causing an ineffective pct.
[quote]BUDs wrote:
How long ago was it when your pct was finished?
How long has it been since you got your bloods?
Did you run the deca the full 12 weeks as well? Did you give yourself adequate time to let the deca clear before pct?
An AI or DA on cycle?
Did you have your prolactin checked as well?
You could have been still suppressed from the deca due to the long clearance time. As well as elevated prolactin levels due to the deca.
Post up your labs with ranges
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I ran test one week longer than deca, then started pct 2 weeks after my last test shot. I used an AI, adex while on cycle. I finished my last day of PCT on May 2nd and I got my BW done about two weeks ago. I didn’t get all the numbers from my DR even though I asked for them, I have to go back in and get a full printout. I do know that my free test is currently 99 ng/dl in a range of 240-950, that is very very low
[quote]G0D123 wrote:
another deca dick situation ? wont need trt but will take a year max to recover… but with hcg and a proper pct what went wrong scratching head
deca ??[/quote]
I guess everyone is different and for me that was not a strong enough PCT
[quote]BUDs wrote:
How long ago was it when your pct was finished?
How long has it been since you got your bloods?
Did you run the deca the full 12 weeks as well? Did you give yourself adequate time to let the deca clear before pct?
An AI or DA on cycle?
Did you have your prolactin checked as well?
You could have been still suppressed from the deca due to the long clearance time. As well as elevated prolactin levels due to the deca.
Post up your labs with ranges
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I ran test one week longer than deca, then started pct 2 weeks after my last test shot. I used an AI, adex while on cycle. I finished my last day of PCT on May 2nd and I got my BW done about two weeks ago. I didn’t get all the numbers from my DR even though I asked for them, I have to go back in and get a full printout. I do know that my free test is currently 99 ng/dl in a range of 240-950, that is very very low
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I would get your prolactin checked as well.
Could be that the serms you had were bunk or severely underdosed or your body has a hard time recovering from deca. I would assume all your gains you’ve made probably will be lost. I would only run deca on TRT.
You could try another SERM restart. Just don’t use the hcg and SERM together.
Check out the TRT forum, Lots of good info on restarts.
I actually got my prolactin checked and it is within normal range, my LH levels are half of the range. I am going to do a restart that conists of hcg and aromasin for three weeks alonf with clomid and nolva, followed by another three weeks of just the clomid and nolva