[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Soon this young lady will be able to say she’s been with a total of one.
Examiner is back - Examiner.com [/quote]
Well… at least it won’t hurt…[/quote]
Seriously though, I would of sold my virginity to a comparable woman (unquestionably disgusting) for 3/4 of a MM too. Smart business right there.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Seriously though, I would of sold my virginity to a comparable woman (unquestionably disgusting) for 3/4 of a MM too. Smart business right there. [/quote]
They also auctioned off a guy. He only got $3000 dollars ha
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Seriously though, I would of sold my virginity to a comparable woman (unquestionably disgusting) for 3/4 of a MM too. Smart business right there. [/quote]
They also auctioned off a guy. He only got $3000 dollars ha[/quote]
Surprise surprise…
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Seriously though, I would of sold my virginity to a comparable woman (unquestionably disgusting) for 3/4 of a MM too. Smart business right there. [/quote]
They also auctioned off a guy. He only got $3000 dollars ha[/quote]
What the fuck I would have done that too. Mine was like negative 100 bucks after going out to dinner and other shit.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Seriously though, I would of sold my virginity to a comparable woman (unquestionably disgusting) for 3/4 of a MM too. Smart business right there. [/quote]
They also auctioned off a guy. He only got $3000 dollars ha[/quote]
What the fuck I would have done that too. Mine was like negative 100 bucks after going out to dinner and other shit.[/quote]
Ha you haven’t seen what you were going to have to do for that $3000 dollars.
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Seriously though, I would of sold my virginity to a comparable woman (unquestionably disgusting) for 3/4 of a MM too. Smart business right there. [/quote]
They also auctioned off a guy. He only got $3000 dollars ha[/quote]
What the fuck I would have done that too. Mine was like negative 100 bucks after going out to dinner and other shit.[/quote]
Ha you haven’t seen what you were going to have to do for that $3000 dollars. [/quote]
Wait til you mean the nice man that bid the $3,000…
[quote]nighthawkz wrote:
[quote]opeth7opeth wrote:
Clearly your “higher deity” is an idol forged in the fires of your vain imagination (so much for your professed adherence to the ten commandments).
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Let me guess - you really like big bonfires and thumbscrews. Do you speak ancient Hebrew, by any chance?[/quote]
What are the consequences when people have sex? The best way to answer this question is to find a verse in the Bible which addresses ONLY the sex act. The verse which addresses ONLY the sex act is: 1 Corinthians 6:15-16:
Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Then taking the members of Christ, shall I make them members of a harlot? Let it not be! Or do you not know that he being joined to a harlot is one body? For He says, The two shall be into one flesh (1 Corinthians 6:15-16).
There are two people mentioned here: a man and a harlot. Porne is the underlying Greek word translated in 1 Corinthians 6:16 as harlot, but it does not refer exclusively to an individual who takes money for sex – it can simply mean a sexually promiscuous individual (like many braggadocios posting on this thread).
The consequence of sexual intercourse between a man and a woman is that they become one body. Paul expects that the reader of this verse should already know that when a man and a woman have sexual intercourse they become one body. We know Paul has this expectation by the way he phrases the question: Or do you not know…? (1 Corinthians 6:16) Paul expected the people of Corinth to know that a man and a woman who have sex become one body from Genesis 2:24:
For this cause a man shall leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave to his wife; and they shall become one flesh (Genesis 2:24).
[An important concept to note regarding what the Bible says about marriage. The Hebrew and Greek words that are translated husband and wife are the same Hebrew and Greek words that are translated man and woman in other places. In other words, there is no difference between husband and man and between wife and woman in the Hebrew and Greek.]
By cleaving they shall become one flesh (Genesis 2:24). Being joined to a harlot results in becoming one body with her: FOR the two, He says, shall become one flesh. Thus, being joined is synonymous with cleaving to the harlot and results in becoming one flesh" with the harlot.
Jesus Christ, the Sovereign Creator of the entire universe, says:
But answering, He said to them, Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning created them male and female? And He said, For this reason a man shall leave father and mother, and shall be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh. So that they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore, what God has joined together, let not man separate. They said to Him, Why then did Moses command to give a bill of divorce, and to put her away? He said to them, In view of your hardheartedness, Moses allowed you to put away your wives. But from the beginning it was not so. And I say to you, Whoever shall put away his wife, if not for fornication, and shall marry another, that one commits adultery. And the one who marries her who was put away commits adultery. His disciples said to Him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry (Matthew 19:4-10).
Presumably nighthawkz HAS read that ‘He who created them from the beginning created them male and female,’ but evidently has relegated it to the dustbin of irrelevance.
Malachi 2:14-15 makes the point that God makes the two who have sex become one because a covenant has been established. We know this covenant is not a spoken vow because the threshold to establish this covenant in Malachi 2:14 is met when a man and a harlot have sex (1 Corinthians 6:16). The reason God makes the two become one is because sex alone establishes a covenant between the man and the woman with whom he has sex. While sex is only one of the many elements within an ideal marriage (lifelong bond), sex alone creates (initiates) a state of marriage.
According to 1 Corinthians 6:16 sex alone makes people one flesh. According to Matthew 19:6 one flesh is the marriage union. Thus, sex alone is the marriage union.
[A brief caveat here: Everything that the non-Christian does is sin (Proverbs 21:4). So even if two married non-Christians are not living in adultery, their marriage union is not pleasing to God. God hates all workers of iniquity (Psalm 5:5-6). In no way do I intend to imply that if a non-Christian abides by any of God’s marriage laws it is somehow pleasing to God. It is not (Romans 8:6-8; Hebrews 11:6).]
The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein (Proverbs 22:14).
And I find more bitter than death the woman, whose heart is snares and nets, and her hands as bands: whoso pleaseth God shall escape from her; but the sinner shall be taken by her (Ecclesiastes 7:26).
Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand (1 Corinthians 10:8).
I gave my wife a “member of Christ” last night, I think he’d of been proud…
lololololol
[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]jbpick86 wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Seriously though, I would of sold my virginity to a comparable woman (unquestionably disgusting) for 3/4 of a MM too. Smart business right there. [/quote]
They also auctioned off a guy. He only got $3000 dollars ha[/quote]
What the fuck I would have done that too. Mine was like negative 100 bucks after going out to dinner and other shit.[/quote]
Ha you haven’t seen what you were going to have to do for that $3000 dollars. [/quote]
Wait til you mean the nice man that bid the $3,000…
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o wait…
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I gave my wife a “member of Christ” last night, I think he’d of been proud…lololololol[/quote]
If your “usmc” signifies what I think it does, then I am not at all surprised by your statement.
There’s been a lot of numbers thrown out and I’m curious what this crowd (especially Orion and AC) thinks about this:
What is a number of “kills” that a woman would have to stay under to be considered marriage material?
Bonus question: Is there a number so big that she becomes ineligible for one night stand material?
This whole “becoming one flesh” thing is a little confusing to me. I mean, what if a mother needs to pick her infant’s nose? By your twisted logic they have “become one flesh”… Is she then married to her infant? Has she committed adultery on her husband by becoming one flesh with her infant? I mean she stuck part of her body (finger) into a part of another person’s body (nose)…
So I’ll just assume that you’re going so say, “that’s not the same!!!”. To which it begs the question, if a penis entering a vagina makes two people “one flesh”, why doesn’t a finger entering a nose (or an ear, mouth, etc…) make two people one flesh? It’s a body part entering an orifice… Last time I checked, the only two people that are “one flesh” are Siamese twins. Now if one of THEM decides to get married, is it adultery?
What if you just get blow jobs or fuck bitches in the ass, is it one flesh then? I actually dated a chick who would only let me fuck her in the ass “cuz she was saving herself for marriage” LMAO. Lucky guy.
[quote]opeth7opeth wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I gave my wife a “member of Christ” last night, I think he’d of been proud…lololololol[/quote]
If your “usmc” signifies what I think it does, then I am not at all surprised by your statement.
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If by USMC you mean he served our fucking country as a muther fucking MARINE so that you could have the fucking privileged of trolling internet forums with your religious bullshit then YEAH, that’s what it means.
If you have anythign else to say about it, I suggest you kindly shut the fuck up.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
And divorced twice? Maybe you’re right. Maybe people with high kill counts can’t be good at marriage…
[/quote]Marriages end for a variety of reasons. I was not the cause of either of them, nor do I care to share any more details. [quote]
So you jump my example of 1 encounter to 235 in 7 years. I hardly see what that has to do with Gender. Anyone that consistently racking up that many kills wont have time to be faithful.
[/quote]We went from one extreme to the other (as most arguments go). Let’s meet at even 25% of my argument ~60… Do YOU want to be married to a chick who’s had SIXTY dudes bust in her face? Come on - she has to kiss your children with that mouth.[quote]
Yes according to you they’re butterflies and dogs. [/quote]Are you familiar with what an ANALOGY is? Nice strawman, though [quote] Whereas you’re super fucker double divorcee extraordinaire who is above the mistakes of women? [/quote]Yes, I believe I am. I don’t make emotionally driven decisions[/quote]
I’m going to interrupt right here. You really think you don’t make emotionally driven decisions? You don’t think your childhood and romantic history are running the show? Oy. With all due respect, think again.
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Not sure you’re in a position to make that assessment, as you only have anecdotal data that I’ve chosen to share publicly and a few PM’s from back in the day when they worked.
Besides, the discussion at hand is whether a woman who is a slut is suitable wife material. I’m arguing that a woman who has a history of exercising good judgment is more desirable FOR A WIFE than one who has not. Are you really disagreeing with that? Or are you just jumping in to take a dig at me personally?
I might have some bullshit about getting INTO a relationship and I enjoy playing the field, but when I’m IN a relationship I’m a VERY caring, committed and connected partner with mature expectations and I NEVER lie (or cheat for that matter).
Seriously, my childhood issues are IN FRONT of me and I’ve taken active steps to work on them and proactively deal with them, which is more than can be said for the majority of the population.
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I don’t disagree with you about the potential negatives of a promiscuous woman. I disagree that your behavior in the mating arena is logic-driven, as well as disagreeing that your views on women are due to historic socio-bio-whatever rather than your own historic experiences.
As for taking digs at you, no. I both like and respect you, but feel you have continuing difficulty seeing clearly on this particular issue. I never addressed this due to time constraints, but when you said this:
[quote]Any robust man of good character and at least an average level of social intelligence, CAN learn to be a beast in the bedroom. And by good character, I can reduce it down to “a man who keeps his word”. That’s it.
A woman with a high novelty seeking index is not capable of having good character. She will emotionally confabulate, justify, apply reverse “chick logic”, etc… to “excuse” ANY behavior that she “wants” in the moment. She is like a butterfly flitting about from one shiny thing to another. In other words, she is not to be trusted. It’s kind of like leaving a dog alone in a room with a steak. You can trust a dog to BE a dog, but you can’t trust a dog to go against it’s nature and not eat the steak.[/quote]
My reaction was to think that there’s no difference. Why would I trust a man over 25 who spends his time at bars for the sole purpose of scoring any more than you would trust his equivalent? No, for the reasons you give.
People should be considered on an individual basis.
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
This whole “becoming one flesh” thing is a little confusing to me. I mean, what if a mother needs to pick her infant’s nose? By your twisted logic they have “become one flesh”… Is she then married to her infant? Has she committed adultery on her husband by becoming one flesh with her infant? I mean she stuck part of her body (finger) into a part of another person’s body (nose)…
So I’ll just assume that you’re going so say, “that’s not the same!!!”. To which it begs the question, if a penis entering a vagina makes two people “one flesh”, why doesn’t a finger entering a nose (or an ear, mouth, etc…) make two people one flesh? It’s a body part entering an orifice… Last time I checked, the only two people that are “one flesh” are Siamese twins. Now if one of THEM decides to get married, is it adultery?
What if you just get blow jobs or fuck bitches in the ass, is it one flesh then? I actually dated a chick who would only let me fuck her in the ass “cuz she was saving herself for marriage” LMAO. Lucky guy.[/quote]
Risible. Do you have a brain?
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]opeth7opeth wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
I gave my wife a “member of Christ” last night, I think he’d of been proud…lololololol[/quote]
If your “usmc” signifies what I think it does, then I am not at all surprised by your statement.
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If by USMC you mean he served our fucking country as a muther fucking MARINE so that you could have the fucking privileged of trolling internet forums with your religious bullshit then YEAH, that’s what it means.
If you have anythign else to say about it, I suggest you kindly shut the fuck up.
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What constitutes a troll in your estimation? What I am posting is completely on topic.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
You really think you don’t make emotionally driven decisions? You don’t think your childhood and romantic history are running the show? Oy. With all due respect, think again.
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Is this supposed to be true for all people? What a sad thing to resign yourself to your childhood and romantic history running your decision making…[/quote]
I think that people who define groups based on the behavior of some members are thinking emotionally. I think people who are drawn to zealotry (which I believe radical feminism and its opposite are) are emotion-driven.
If I made assumptions about all men based upon the behavior of my two primary past relationships I would be doing so reactively. More fruitful for me has been to focus on why I chose such similar men rather than cataloguing their shortcomings and looking to societal mores to explain them as members of a group (e.g. “the patriarchal history of the west encouraged men to blah blah and I as a woman blah blah.”)
To me the MRA and GTOW types sound exactly like the feminists. I seriously can’t separate their messages. So in answer to your question, no, I’m not talking about all people.
[quote]philipmein wrote:
There’s been a lot of numbers thrown out and I’m curious what this crowd (especially Orion and AC) thinks about this:
What is a number of “kills” that a woman would have to stay under to be considered marriage material?
Bonus question: Is there a number so big that she becomes ineligible for one night stand material?[/quote]
Well, depends om how old she is, does it not?
Just kidding she would of course have to be under 30 because I prefer my kids to have the right number of chromosomes, thank you, and 5 means pushing it.
The number per se, no, that is pretty much irrelevant when it comes to a one night stand, but the ones who have a huge number have issues, and you dont want any part of that.
You dont see the number anyway, but if you see the issues, run.
Since you are probably horny and drunk at that point, when in doubt, run.
[quote]EmilyQ wrote:
To me the MRA and GTOW types sound exactly like the feminists. I seriously can’t separate their messages. So in answer to your question, no, I’m not talking about all people.
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If you really dont see the difference I cant help but notice that no government agency has forced you (yet) to finance my booty calls.
If feminists just were insane I would not care, me coughing up money to finance the crazyness, well, I dont like that.
But, I dream of a day, where women are taxed for 75% of all tax income and it is directly funneled into whatever strikes our fancy.
I think I want a job at a state university, preaching the evils of the matriarchy and tenure and a hos on demand programm.
And a company car.