[quote]undeadlift wrote:
CrvtWanabe wrote:
How detrimental is training past and hour? I mean a catabolic state for an extra 30-60 min…? Can someone point me to a good split program?
Stress hormones like cortisol come into play once the workouts last longer. To remedy this, use peri-workout (during workout) nutrition or try a high density protocol like EDT.[/quote]
I know what all the research says, but legends like reg park and steve reeves worked out for hours on end, and they had great physiques. I think all this bullshit clouds peoples minds and makes weight training a big fucking ordeal. Workout, eat enough, sleep enough, and gains will follow. I know so many champions natural, and unnatural who lift past the reccomended hour, and their results are phenominal. I personally workout anywhere from 45-90 minutes. As of the new year, My workouts will probably be lasting 75-120 minutes, 4 times per week, each muscle twice per week.
[quote]CrvtWanabe wrote:
How detrimental is training past and hour? I mean a catabolic state for an extra 30-60 min…? Can someone point me to a good split program?[/quote]
Its not really about how long your workout lasts, its about what you do in the workout and how much you eat the following days.
Paul Anderson “probably the strongest raw squater the world has ever seen” Would sometimes workout over the period of a day, sometimes taking hours between sets. And we aren’t talking curls, try 800lb squats. He also squated very often, every 3-4 days I believe. And from seeing his training program he worked with close to max weights allot of the time.
If it takes you 3 hours to do some good sets of squats, stiff leg deads and lunges. Then so be it. But if you have to rush everything, not have enough rest between sets and cut down on your exercises, sets, reps, and weight just to meet some specific workout time like 45 minutes, then your completely losing any benefit you might get from having shorter workouts.
I probably average around 90mins in the gym including pre and post stretching, changing and lifting. I lift for 60mins tops, if I still have energy at 60mins, I wasn’t going hard enough. If it’s deads day than maybe a bit more as I tend to rest longer between sets.
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
CrvtWanabe wrote:
How detrimental is training past and hour? I mean a catabolic state for an extra 30-60 min…? Can someone point me to a good split program?
Stress hormones like cortisol come into play once the workouts last longer. To remedy this, use peri-workout (during workout) nutrition or try a high density protocol like EDT.
I know what all the research says, but legends like reg park and steve reeves worked out for hours on end, and they had great physiques. I think all this bullshit clouds peoples minds and makes weight training a big fucking ordeal. Workout, eat enough, sleep enough, and gains will follow. I know so many champions natural, and unnatural who lift past the reccomended hour, and their results are phenominal. I personally workout anywhere from 45-90 minutes. As of the new year, My workouts will probably be lasting 75-120 minutes, 4 times per week, each muscle twice per week.[/quote]
Good you mentioned that. It’s also important to remember that not everyone is built to do that kind of work. You’ll have to find the optimal amount of time in the gym for you.
[quote]undeadlift wrote:
austin_bicep wrote:
undeadlift wrote:
CrvtWanabe wrote:
How detrimental is training past and hour? I mean a catabolic state for an extra 30-60 min…? Can someone point me to a good split program?
Stress hormones like cortisol come into play once the workouts last longer. To remedy this, use peri-workout (during workout) nutrition or try a high density protocol like EDT.
I know what all the research says, but legends like reg park and steve reeves worked out for hours on end, and they had great physiques. I think all this bullshit clouds peoples minds and makes weight training a big fucking ordeal. Workout, eat enough, sleep enough, and gains will follow. I know so many champions natural, and unnatural who lift past the reccomended hour, and their results are phenominal. I personally workout anywhere from 45-90 minutes. As of the new year, My workouts will probably be lasting 75-120 minutes, 4 times per week, each muscle twice per week.
Good you mentioned that. It’s also important to remember that not everyone is built to do that kind of work. You’ll have to find the optimal amount of time in the gym for you.[/quote]
75-90 minutes most of the time, 4 times a week. Shorter during the holidays to mix things up. Strength workouts almost always take longer due to rest periods than Hypertrophy workouts.
I’ve had workouts where I’m just so pressed for time, that I just go in, pick one exercise, and knock out 10 sets with very little rest. As it’s not what I’m typically used to, the next day soreness is pretty intense -lol It’s all about giving your body something next to try to adapt to (translation - to make progress). Of course, as a few others already pointed out, everyone’s recovery and tolerance levels are uniquely their own, and they must figure out certain parameters, ie. lenght of training sessions.
2+ hours for me right now, but I’m doing a Sheiko program, three days a weak. Not used to going this long, kind of like it, you definitely feel like you’ve put in the work after leaving the gym.
Depends on the work I am doing and what I am training. My leg days are generally shorter, chest days are a little longer, back days seem like forever. Anywhere from 45 minutes - 2 hours.
I can feel it deep in my body when I am done, I start to feel like I just crawled out of bed, feel fuzzy, and don’t want to touch another weight. I never leave the gym walking fast out of the door or ready to go hang out with friends. I’m always ready for sleep and food when I’m done… and my Surge of course
40 mins to absolute max 1 hour in the gym. 20 - 40 mins at home strength/endurance with kettlebells. for me the trick is to keep it varied and my body guessing. used to train till almost puking every session but vary intensity much more now, improves my recovery much better.
for me going over the hour isn’t really productive and i start to show signs of overtraining. (but then i am old)
I do 1.5hrs up to 2.5 hrs, average about 1.75 to 2hrs. I train Tuesday & Friday.
Longer sessions mainly due to:
A)Strength training, 3 min rest periods, and
B)Prehab at the end of the session (I guess they aren’t too taxing on the CNS though).
I seem to be gaining so it can’t be all bad, besides there’s no option to increasing to 4x per week (my ideal is 4x 0.75hrs to 1hr per week).