Highschool has been important for me because it’s given me the time and experience I need to narrow down possible careers. (Which would not have been possible if I went straight into college or the work force.)
High School is important, now that I’m in college, I realize aside from the study habits you from and the pre req base you can build…it is pretty much the only time people and the gov’t give a shit about you. It is harder than balls to get a full ride or beast scholarship in Community College for Uni, and basically impossible, to get a full-ride into Masters.
If you get the full ride out of high school, then you have alot more money to work with and unaccessed when you go into Master’s.
I hope you realize btw, that the kind of schools that will guarantee you big bucks jobs, are basically inaccessible to people who don’t get scholarships or come from millionaire families.
So, do well in High School man, it is worth it. Trust me, I’ve made about every bad choice there is, and dropping out was one of them.
What year are you anyways?
What the hell kind of high school do you go to where a 3.8 is valedictorian? I have a 4.02 and am 46th in my class. The valedictorian has a 4.5!
[quote]ImSkinny wrote:
I get depressed about bad grades. I really do. It affects me to the point where I can’t sleep, eat, nor train. I think this is due to the fact that I grew up with two older siblings (10 year difference) with a 3.5-3.8 GPA and my brother being valedictorian. My parents have accepted that success as the norm.
So how important is highschool in determining a persons worth to society?
Is it a fair judge of one’s intellect?
Is it a good predictor of success in the future?
Are you still feeling the after-effects of your highschool education now?[/quote]
Don’t get depressed all over yourself just because you’re not doing so well in high school. When I was in high school, I was all about not settling for anything less than a 4.0 GPA (w/ honors, APs etc) and going to some fancy private school. I ended up graduating with a 3.3, and attending UCSB instead. I’m definitely feeling the after-effects of my high school education. I don’t worry much about college because I’ve been prepared by high school. What I’ve found is that as long as you take high school seriously, you’re going to adjust well with college academics.
I’ve known people who were “smart” in high school, never really worked for their grades, but did well anyway. These people ended up dicking around in college and then eventually dropping out because they weren’t really prepared for college academics.
As for high school being a good predictor of success in the future? College of course. Life? Nah, not really. I’m a completely different person now than I was in high school.
[quote]ImSkinny wrote:
This is how my transcript looks like at the moment-
School president
A very colorful letter of recomendation.
Class president grade 9-11
12 weeks work experience during summer doing accounting/marketing tasks
A modeling portfolio for 4 adverts
But my GPA sucks balls. …2.3-2.6
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What were your scores on college admissions type tests? (SAT/ACT, or other)
From my experience, you can be a total fucktard but blow those tests out of the water and still get into some decent schools.
[quote]Genocide_General wrote:
I went to a really crappy HS in the ghetto. Then again the whole public school system in this city is complete garbage. I dropped out when I was 15. But I’ve always been a smart guy. So I spent some time on my own, just researching things and studying on my own time. I got my GED when I was 17, now I’m 20, in college, getting good grades and going into the Military. That’s 5 years I went with no “proper” education. And I turned out very intelligent, well spoken, respectful and ambitious. I see people that stuck with HS from around here and they turned out to be failures. The schools around here are just like dramatic soap operas, no one goes to them to learn it seems like. I know it’s not like this everywhere, but where I went it was.
Anyway, now I don’t know what to do with my life, because I have so many paths open to me. I want to go into the Military, but even if I don’t there’s a ton of other things I can do.
So what I’m saying is you don’t need some teachers or parents shoving an education down your throat to be successful. If you alone have the desire to succeed and really apply yourself, then you can go far in this world without the help of others. Sticking with the norm isn’t always the best route for some people.[/quote]
believe it or not you have to be quite highly qualified to teach in school systems, and being that i teach in a title 1 school, i happen to realize where the fault in education lies. not in the teachers, but the families. might want to rethink who you point the finger at being lazy. there might just be a reason you lived in the “ghetto” in the first place- home/family.
Dude HS is just there to get through, some people have good experiences with it but I hated it. Dropped out got my GED working on getting my BS in physics currently took a bit longer and more work but its better than HS. I have a 3.8 GPA currently and at the time I dropped out of HS I had a 1.8. So its ultimately a character builder but don’t take it too seriously.
[quote]nhelterbrand wrote:
What the hell kind of high school do you go to where a 3.8 is valedictorian? I have a 4.02 and am 46th in my class. The valedictorian has a 4.5![/quote]
Heh. Ok. Echoing what everyone else said–all it really matters for is helping you get into a decent college. Really. (Colleges care more about GPA then test scores). But, you’ve got lots of other cool stuff, so if you write an awesome essay they’ll probably be able to overlook plenty. In my high school I was competing against people with 4.5’s and higher. People who are most likely less intelligent than I got into better ranked schools. So, for your first question. Hell to the no it means nothing about one’s intellect. GPA, in my opinion, is more a product of work in. SAT’s maybe a little more related to intelligence, but can still be massively skewed by work in.
And honestly, worth to society doesn’t factor. Most people are useful to society in their own way. Just because someone abuses their body with random focus drugs and late night study sessions every day doesn’t mean they’re worth more than you. It only reflects a small part of what you are–a really tiny part dammit.
Studies say there’s a correlation between high school and college GPA, but studies be damned. I can’t really say much about that as I’m a first year in college myself, but it more matters about you and what you do.
In case it didn’t bleed through, yes, I am feeling the aftereffects of highschool. I felt like I didn’t try hard enough so I’m trying twice as hard. /rant
But seriously, as long as you can get into college, if you massively bring it, no one can say anything to you. It’s just like in the gym; you might have been a tiny little shit 3 years ago, but if you’re big now, who cares if you were once tiny? Employers don’t even look at college GPA’s, much less high school
I viewed my HS grades as cash, they earned me BIG money scholarships for college.
Money is a great motivator!
[quote]ImSkinny wrote:
I get depressed about bad grades. I really do. It affects me to the point where I can’t sleep, eat, nor train. I think this is due to the fact that I grew up with two older siblings (10 year difference) with a 3.5-3.8 GPA and my brother being valedictorian. My parents have accepted that success as the norm.
So how important is highschool in determining a persons worth to society?
Is it a fair judge of one’s intellect?
Is it a good predictor of success in the future?
Are you still feeling the after-effects of your highschool education now?[/quote]
High school is a waste of time, and overstressed in this society. I was at my worst in high school, and didn’t give a shit about any of it.
I was lucky that, even though I had an awful work ethic, I’m smart naturally, so I got away with it. But basically, as long as you can make it into a college, any college, you get a second chance.
I learned what to do in college, and got through that easily. Honestly, after you get into a college, no one looks at what you did in high school.
Once you get out of college and into your first job, people stop looking at what you did in college and start looking about how you do at your job.
It’s all about what you do in the spot you’re in.
As far as HS being a measure of intellect, well… it’s not a measure of intellect. Let’s leave it at that.
Do your best, to keep as many doors open as possible. What you want at this point in your life may not be the same as it will be in the future, but it is better to work hard and keep your options open, for whatever it may be.
[quote]ImSkinny wrote:
I get depressed about bad grades. I really do. It affects me to the point where I can’t sleep, eat, nor train. I think this is due to the fact that I grew up with two older siblings (10 year difference) with a 3.5-3.8 GPA and my brother being valedictorian. My parents have accepted that success as the norm.
So how important is highschool in determining a persons worth to society?
Is it a fair judge of one’s intellect?
Is it a good predictor of success in the future?
Are you still feeling the after-effects of your highschool education now?[/quote]
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not at all
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naaaaa
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yup, but not because it takes brains but because if you cannot handle the stress of high school, real life is probably not for you.
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yes. I wonder what I could have learned in all that wasted time and I seriously regret that I did not care more for languages and hard sciences.
Job wise its irrelevant but still.
[quote]A Ninny Mouse wrote:
Employers don’t even look at college GPA’s, much less high school[/quote]
True story, this is why during interviews for coop I had 9 interviews and 4 job offers when many of my peers (>50%) couldn’t even get an interview.
i’m a sophomore. i feel great if i skip my homework. i sleep eat and train better if i say fuck it. but i have study hall