well basicly ive come to a dead end in school. i suck at math, if i have to answer how somthing makes me feel in english class again im gonna flip. i have a history teacher who directly contradicts information givin by not only the governments history website but the class textbook aswell. and im ahving a heck of a time understanding chemistry well.
it seems all i like and all im good at is understanding things about health and nutrition.
is there anything i can do with this that will lead to me having atleast a slim chance at bieng moderatly successfull?
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
well basicly ive come to a dead end in school. i suck at math, if i have to answer how somthing makes me feel in english class again im gonna flip. i have a history teacher who directly contradicts information givin by not only the governments history website but the class textbook aswell. and im ahving a heck of a time understanding chemistry well.
it seems all i like and all im good at is understanding things about health and nutrition.
is there anything i can do with this that will lead to me having atleast a slim chance at bieng moderatly successfull?[/quote]
Well, for one… your history teacher sounds like a moron. As for math and chemistry, depending on the level, they can be very hard. The only thing you can do is try harder, do more work, go to more extra help sessions, etc. And yeah… most HS level english classes are retarded anyway. In public schools, anyway. Or, around here, at least.
As for school… Well, what I’ve learned from being in college, high school sucked. In college, you choose your own classes for the most part. You take your education into your own hands. Although, freshman and sophmore year you do have to take some bullshit courses that will in no way further your education in anything… but hey, thats life.
Keep your chin up and just make it out to be the best you can.
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
well basicly ive come to a dead end in school. i suck at math, if i have to answer how somthing makes me feel in english class again im gonna flip. i have a history teacher who directly contradicts information givin by not only the governments history website but the class textbook aswell. and im ahving a heck of a time understanding chemistry well.
it seems all i like and all im good at is understanding things about health and nutrition.
is there anything i can do with this that will lead to me having atleast a slim chance at bieng moderatly successfull?[/quote]
thats school bro, u gotta deal with it…i hate math with a passion but u gotta just do your best with it, see a tutor or somethin if u have to…as for english, just say a thing or 2 so the teacher knows ur thinkin about it, thats all they wanna know…history teacher just seems like a dickhead but do what he/she wants and just go with the flow, do what u gotta do just dont do somethin stupid…chemistry, same thing bro, just do your best with it…i know if i put as much effort into school work as i do lifting, shit, id have a 4.0+ GPA…but we all they are both different animals, but just try to put more effort into things…good luck with it bro, its school and a part of life, just something we all gotta deal with and get through, have fun with it if your too serious about it, its just gonna bring you down…and when worse comes to worse, u got the weights to smash the shit out of = )
Suck it up buttercup, study hard and you’ll be glad you did once your done school.
Your not alone man. We all have gone or are going through this now. Its just something you have to just take on. Some good advice would be to sign up for some classes you like inbetween the shitty classes. It makes things go alot easier when you have something to look foward to rather then a schedule of suck.
All I can say is that it’s possible to succeed at anything. I started college as a beer drinking, weed smoking dipshit in all remedial classes. Now I’m no Isacc Newton or anything, but I did manage to get through second semester calculus (started in pre-algebra) and I also toughed it through all the BS classes that involve writing (English, History, Psych, etc.) and am about to graduate from a pretty damn good university (Cal Poly, SLO).
Find a major you know you want to persue and don’t be one of those lost fucks who switches majors every quarter.
Good luck, seriously.
[quote]Mr ian wrote:
Your not alone man. We all have gone or are going through this now. Its just something you have to just take on. Some good advice would be to sign up for some classes you like inbetween the shitty classes. It makes things go alot easier when you have something to look foward to rather then a schedule of suck.[/quote]
Good advice- you have to take the shit classes no matter what, so just mix in your major courses as you go so it will soften the blow from all the bullshit.
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
well basicly ive come to a dead end in school. i suck at math, if i have to answer how somthing makes me feel in english class again im gonna flip. i have a history teacher who directly contradicts information givin by not only the governments history website but the class textbook aswell. and im ahving a heck of a time understanding chemistry well.
it seems all i like and all im good at is understanding things about health and nutrition.
is there anything i can do with this that will lead to me having atleast a slim chance at bieng moderatly successfull?[/quote]
Great advice. College is just like high school for sure, same bull shit required classes. What’s ridiculous is out of 120 credits for my graduation I only take 60 credits related to my major, what a scam.
It may seem like other people instantly get chemistry and math, but I assure you this is not the case. I’ve found part of learning that sorta stuff is struggling through it first, then getting help if you don’t figure it out. There is no shame in meeting with your teacher, that is what they are there for. Most teachers like if you show effort and a desire to understand the material.
Don’t get too stressed out, just do everything you can to be a great student. If you really do everything you can I guarentee you will be doing a hell of a lot better in classes.
For the psycho teacher that teaches her own agenda, just study what she puts on tests. I know it is really annoying, I had a teacher for intro to health and wellness have her theories on a test about some heavy stuff like diseases. She was not a doctor and her main degree was in evolutionary psychology.
Good luck and do the best you can.
EDIT: I meant to quote rrjc, not the OP saying great advice.
[quote]Kreal7 wrote:
It may seem like other people instantly get chemistry and math, but I assure you this is not the case. I’ve found part of learning that sorta stuff is struggling through it first, then getting help if you don’t figure it out. There is no shame in meeting with your teacher, that is what they are there for. Most teachers like if you show effort and a desire to understand the material.
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I read ahead of the teacher. Class was a review of what I had already been over. I think some people underestimate the effort it takes to do well. Even though, looking back, I sometimes wish I had enjoyed myself more in college, the truth is, I worked and studied harder than most people. While my roommates were playing video games and skipping classes, I was often studying in the music building or the science building. I remember spending the week before classes started my freshman year reading the first chapter of all of my textbooks because I was that afraid of fucking up…because the only thing I truly fear is complete failure.
It all comes down to how badly you want to do well and thinking these classes are a waste of time is NOT a good way to approach that mentally. I am also interested in how the OP is so convinced that he knows more than his professor. While we have all had ridiculous professors, the key to doing well is simply playing the game while in the class. Who the fuck cares if the teacher contradicts the textbook? If contradicting the textbook along with him helps you get a fucking “A” in the class, then get to contradicting.
Why go out the Sunday before an exam when you know you aren’t ready for the test?
Why wait until the night before to cram everything in at once?
Why ignore what people who are actually doing well in those classes are doing?
Why not get a tutor?
In all honesty, those grades are going to follow you for the rest of your life unless you go to higher level of education (grad school) after college. It is worth putting the time in even if that means missing some things.
English class isn’t useless. You can look at this site and see that many people actually needed to be paying attention more in some of those.
If takes being a nerd to do well, be a fucking nerd. They’ll be the ones running the companies 10 years down the road anyway.
Your history teacher is saying different things than the government website? Is he saying the holocaust didn’t happen?
Well…you are in Ontario.
[quote]westdale warrior wrote:
is there anything i can do with this that will lead to me having atleast a slim chance at bieng moderatly successfull?[/quote]
Your chances of being successful don’t hinge on your academic prowess, but of course it depends on what you’d like to be successful at.
There are some fundamental scholastic things in life that will make the journey to success a little easier and in my opinion the ability to spell correctly and perform basic maths contribute to those fundamentals greatly.
When in college I had problems coping in some subjects and although I found it a little embarrassing at the time, I hired a tutor. It worked wonders. It took time, but it worked, very well.
Since then I’ve spent many years running businesses and I’ve made a lot of money. But, the money did not come from the job, it came from my personal investing which required very little of my scholastic ‘talents’.
So, success for you can come no matter how well you do in school. It depends on what you consider to be success, and of course, your priority should be on maximal effort in whatever you do.
“The harder I work, the luckier I get” as some folks say.
And by the way, you should not aim to have a “slim chance to be moderately successful” aim higher; to be hugely successful!
If it makes you feel any better, I just finished doing three hours of Chem homework. Now I have to prep for tomorrows lab at 8:00 am. I also suck at math and have to spend an inordinate amount of time studying just to get the basics down. The only thing I can tell you is keep doing all of the homework, ask questions, and when you are out of school or have free time read about the subjects you have problems with (preferably something entertaining like Scientific American magazine or math puzzles) I won’t say it gets easier, but it does make you want to try harder to figure it all out. After all if some Greek guy 3000 years ago could determine the circumference of the earth using sticks and shadows, I’m sure you can eventually figure out algebra/trig/geometry/calc with the help of an instructor.
Hey man, everyone goes through times like this. You have to work hard, stay focused, and you can look back and remember the blood, sweat, and tears you went through to be successful.
And if you said the only things you are good at are health and nutrition, then major in that!!! You enjoy it, it will come naturally to you, your grades will increase, and you’ll be happy.
You gotta go through the trenches. Everyone in the world has been through some tough times, but it makes you a better person. Something good always comes out of something bad. You might not realize it the next week, the next month, or even the next year, but you’ll realize it at the right time, and look back on your experience.
Prof X gave some great advice. Hard work can overcome most any natural talent when it comes to college. If you go to a prof’s office hours all the time, and follow their advice between visits, you’re going to get a decent grade.
Who cares if the history teacher is saying something weird? Most of the time, this person’s been doing their thing for years and years, and you can’t even come close to understanding their thought processes. On the other hand, maybe they’re totally loony. If you drop out, you will be forced to conform to your bosses’ loony thought prcoesses anyway. Stand up when it matters. Get your good grade, learn what you can, and get out. Stuff will make more sense in retrospect anyway.
Good luck.
[quote]HoratioSandoval wrote:
Prof X gave some great advice. Hard work can overcome most any natural talent when it comes to college. If you go to a prof’s office hours all the time, and follow their advice between visits, you’re going to get a decent grade.[/quote]
Not only that, but in college if you’re in with the professor a lot during office hours and you’re not a piece of shit (as in, you develop a good relationship) that sign of dedication is going to get you ridiculously good recommendation letters from your professors.
Don’t underestimate the pull of a professor at a university. If you’re going into a graduate program at the school, and you know a lot of professors, chances are they can get you in TA or research positions that other people wouldn’t be able to.
If you’re applying to other schools or a ‘professional’ school (law, medicine, business) a great recommendation won’t get you into the school, but all things being equal with someone else it can put you over another person. Not to mention that many of your professors have most likely worked in the professional arena at sometime in their life, and more than likely still have contacts.
If networking is the most important thing in business, than having a solid relationship with your professors and department heads is the most important thing in college.
[quote]Dweezil wrote:
HoratioSandoval wrote:
If networking is the most important thing in business, than having a solid relationship with your professors and department heads is the most important thing in college.[/quote]
Great post, thanks for expanding on my quick points. BTW, I think this is the secret behind all those “Think-and-grow rich-thought-manifest- universal-attractive-force” BS schemes. Networking 101 - Mention your goals alot to random people, and they will refer you to people with similar goals. If you gain the referer’s trust, that trust will be passed on, and “magically” , positive things happen for you.
Get a tutor…its well worth the money you’ll invest into them…some are idiots yes so shop around you’d be surprised how much more you can learn in a one on one environment
There’s really no such thing as someone who’s genetically better at a given subject its your level of interest and work you put into the subject that will ultimately determine how well you do or dont do
It seems to me the least done thing is, combining natural talent with hard work and determination. The natural talents sit back on their laurels, lost in whatever mental state of dissaray… while the determined may struggle, but they put their time in, and end up on top. I wonder what would happen if the ones with the gifts actually applied themselves. Happens a few times here and there in history, but they always either destruct themselves or they are killed.
Something tells me that you don’t exactly knock yourself out preparing for class. How much time do you spend each day?
School isn’t for everyone.
There are many honorable other ways to earn a decent living.
Construction, military etc.
Finish high school and get out into the real world.
Don’t be a fuck up. Learn at every job you have. Try to improve.
After some time in the world you may want to go to college. Or not.