Alph-
Aprox what’s your bf% now?
Also, I think we might be forgetting that actors end up looking larger on screen then they would in person. I bet if you actually were Norton’s size you wouldn’t even know it.
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JMB
[quote]John K wrote:
I think this Franky G guy from the new show “Jonny Zero” has my target build.
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He has a great physique. I read an article on him the other day, it said he won a few bodybuilding competitions in New York. Also said he squats 600+.
As earlier stated if we are choosing physiques we admire and aspire to be like, I would choose todays powerful image… the original Hercules, Steve Reeves! To me the perfect blend of size and symmetry. I’ve read he was incredibly strong as well for a pre juice crazy era.
[quote]alphuris wrote:
I love how you blame people for having different goals than your own. Especially people like me who after years of not going to the gym, come here, get inspired to work out again(or for the first time), then see you rip each of us just starting to try and add some meat. Have you ever once had the thought that maybe a ounce of encouragement is worth a pound of belittling?
…It’s actually funny to see such a staunch defender of oppression blatantly throw prejudice at someone just because they are different.[/quote]
That was a beautiful rant. I almost started crying…that is, until I realized that my response to you WAS THE TRUTH. As you diet, many of your measurements will get SMALLER unless you have added muscle in amounts enough to justify the loss. That means someone with 18" arms at 16% body fat will probably have arms a little smaller if they dropped to 6% body fat. That means, though you may have 15" arms now, dropping to 6% body fat will more than likely make them smaller, not keep them the same size. That is why it makes little sense for someone who is already considered fairly small to start trying to lose even more weight unless they are overweight in the first place.
As far as Edward Norton in AHX, I also doubt his arms are much over 15" in that picture. He is simply lean. That means, if he was NOT lean, his arms would probably measure a little larger. JMB’s post about how the camera can make you look larger is also correct, especially if those around you in the same shot are even smaller.
http://images.t-nation.com/forum_images/./1/.1106775908259.bale.jpg
This is what Christian Bale looked like in Reign of Fire.
Christian Bale dropped down to 120lbs for his role in The Machinist. He quit eating for weeks.
Install quicktime and view that link. It’s kind of scary.
[quote]JMB wrote:
Alph-
Aprox what’s your bf% now?
Also, I think we might be forgetting that actors end up looking larger on screen then they would in person. I bet if you actually were Norton’s size you wouldn’t even know it.
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I’m not really certain of the percentage. I go to the YMCA thats two blocks away and the BF testing they do there is 3 measurements (chest, abdomen, legs) and 90% of my fat is in the abdomen, none in the legs, and a little in the chest. The number they gave me when I tested was ~20.4% and since that time I’ve been doing mostly bulking with a three week stint of EDT for weight loss with the T-Dawg 2.0.
I generally tend to eat a mixture of Massive eating (I shoot for combo’s and caloric intake in this range) and anabolic diet (due to the fact I’m not really a carb consumer, by taste, not preference). I’ve actually gained near an inch on my arms since september (14-15 on left, 14.5-15.5 on right) and took some before/after pics which show considerable difference in the arms and shoulders.
I do however have what appears to be the exact same damn abdomen. I have a hard time forcing myself to do cardio and there really isn’t any location around where I live to do something like buy a sled and drag it around (whick I would do in a second if A I didn’t live in downtown San Francisco, and B I had a car). As it is all I can do is attempt to try some GPP in the gym (between the squat rack curlers and the max rep machine fitness junkies) or force myself into hamsterdom by using a overpriced calorie counter.
*Edit: However I am 230 lbs and have stayed 230 lbs while adding on some muscle so I must be doing the long slow progression route. So dropping 20 lbs really wouldn’t hurt much if I can burn off fat.
[quote]randman wrote:
Kurt Russell in Soldier[/quote]
Damn, I forgot about that. I remember watching that movie and coming out thinking “I wish I looked like that.” Probably the most impressive transformation I’ve seen by an actor.
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How bout Deniro in Cape Fear!![/quote]
Yea wow he was ripped in that. The set of abs on him was remarkable.
The build I like best on any famous person is Lenny Kravitz. Without a doubt the best six pack in the entertainment industry. Great bod as well. Chalk that up to a guy thats never drank alcohol in his life, LOL
I would be Edward Norton just so I could bang Salma Hayek.
[quote]hfrogs00 wrote:
a_train wrote:
I don’t know his exact measurements, but that was a pretty great transformation. Why would he let himself go like he did in fight club?! He looked like a little bitch in that movie, which was only like 6 months apart. Great movie…no Great movies by the way.
Because that is what the role called for. Who is more believable in that role? American History X Norton, or “skinny little bitch” Norton who needs a change from his miserable life and develops a split personality. I say the skinny bitch Norton.[/quote]
True, but who the fuck would want to look like that?! It must suck to take a role in a movie where they say…" Start drinking Soy milk and eat only 500 calories a day, and what ever you do, don’t lift anything heavier than a pencil" I don’t care who you are, Edward Norton or not, you would get a lot more respect walking around looking like Derek Vinyard than you would looking like Tyler Durden…or what ever the fuck Nortons name was in Fight Club…just my $.02.
I can’t believe that people talked about Pitt without mentioning Troy. That’s the best he looked so far.
Oh yeah, and my celebrity inspiration for working out? THE TERMINATOR!
ProfX, an ectomorph (like Norton) will gain just about all of his fat in the gut. You could pinch his arm and get nothing but skin. Dieting off the gut wouldn’t make much of a difference on the arm. But it sure as hell would make the waist-to-hip much better.
How about Brad Pitt in Troy? He put on some pretty serious Lean Mass for that role. He certainly wasn’t huge, but compared to Fight Club and Snatch he was a monster.
I think from the above quote that shaving his head had a SERIOUS bit to do with gaining weight and getting bigger.
It’s the reverse samson effect. Just look at power lifters.
If he would have grown a goatee along with it he’d be training at Westside and Squatting 800+ right now.
[quote]Xen Nova wrote:
I think from the above quote that shaving his head had a SERIOUS bit to do with gaining weight and getting bigger.
It’s the reverse samson effect. Just look at power lifters.
If he would have grown a goatee along with it he’d be training at Westside and Squatting 800+ right now.[/quote]
[quote]monkm wrote:
This is what Christian Bale looked like in Reign of Fire.
Christian Bale dropped down to 120lbs for his role in The Machinist. He quit eating for weeks.
Install quicktime and view that link. It’s kind of scary. [/quote]
Looks like he takes it up the seat…
[quote]NateN wrote:
ProfX, an ectomorph (like Norton) will gain just about all of his fat in the gut. You could pinch his arm and get nothing but skin. Dieting off the gut wouldn’t make much of a difference on the arm. But it sure as hell would make the waist-to-hip much better.[/quote]
This isn’t true. You are basically claiming that 7 site (or an alternative) caliper body fat tests are less accurate if you are an ectomorph. Your body type isn’t just about where you gain body fat. Most MEN gain body fat in the same places first and lose it there last regardless of body type. You are saying that an ectomorph at 20% is sporting vascularity and striations in his arms and chest but has a HUGE waist?
[quote]monkm wrote:
This is what Christian Bale looked like in Reign of Fire.
Christian Bale dropped down to 120lbs for his role in The Machinist. He quit eating for weeks.
Looks like he takes it up the seat…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Most MEN gain body fat in the same places first and lose it there last regardless of body type. You are saying that an ectomorph at 20% is sporting vascularity and striations in his arms and chest but has a HUGE waist?
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That’s taking it a little far but . . . yes. A man with a mesomorphic or endormorphic structure will gain bodyfat in a more balanced manner. I remember one time I gained about two inches of fat to my waist and had no change in fat around my arms.
I’ll say it again: The visual effect of losing abdominal fat more than makes up for smaller measurements due to whatever little fat is lost around the arms.
I’ve come to believe that Pitt’s physique in Fight Club is… artificial. His ab development really, well, isn’t there. It’s completely flat - there’s no sort of curvature or evidence of actual work there. If I were a bettin man, the scenes where he is, ehem, “revealed” are a byproduct of extreme dehydration coupled with an insanely hi-rep pump prior to the shot. It just doesn’t look right (as compared to atheletes with well-developed physiques).
[quote]NateN wrote:
That’s taking it a little far but . . . yes. A man with a mesomorphic or endormorphic structure will gain bodyfat in a more balanced manner. I remember one time I gained about two inches of fat to my waist and had no change in fat around my arms.
I’ll say it again: The visual effect of losing abdominal fat more than makes up for smaller measurements due to whatever little fat is lost around the arms.
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I have taken several body fat percentages and I have not noticed that much a difference between specific body types. You are right that some people gain fat in different places, however, that doesn’t mean that the guy who I responded to who wrote that he is around 20% body fat with 15" arms is still going to have 15" arms at 6% body fat. Different body types do not account for changes that drastic in body fat percentage. You are basically claiming that someone could look to be 6% body fat as long as they kept their tank top on…but take it off and “Honey, run for cover…this is a whopper.”
I call bullshit and would like for you to show me pictures of people with 20% body fat who look close to contest condition in the shoulders and chest.