HOT-ROX Banned In NZ & Oz?

Hi,

Is this true?

I have been told by Nutrition Plus that there latest order of HOT-ROX has been impounded by NZ Customs and that Customs has advised them it is now banned in NZ. No advanced warning.

Has anyone else had there HOT-ROX imports stopped at Customs recently?

I have been told that it is a joint decision between NZ and Australia.

What I have heard is that it is because it contains yohimbine which is a banned substance in Australia, but there are still plently of yohimbine products for sale at many stores in NZ, and HOT-ROX has been sold in NZ for a couple of years.

Also several protein powders have been held up due to the Potassium content, even though other pills contain far more Potassium. Seems that are different rules for powders and pills.

I guess it is true: If you can’t tax it, ban it.

What else is in HOT-ROX? I’m not familiar with what is listed on the label.

What’s the highest amount of potassium allowed?

The original HOT-ROX does not contain any yohimbine at all, but HOT-ROX Extreme contains yohimbine HCL which is a banned substance in Australia and NZ. But HOT-ROX Extreme has been sold in NZ in the past.

Now it seems both Original and Extreme have been banned. So not sure if the yohimbine reason makes sense as original does not even have yohimbine in it.

I am not a (bio)chemist, but yohimbine and 17α-hydroxy-yohimban-16α-
carboxylic acid methyl ester (which is what wikipedia informs me yohimbine is) don’t appear on either of the two following pages:

http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/html/bringmed/apendixa.htm
http://www.tga.gov.au/docs/html/bringmed/apendixb.htm

These are the substances currently prohibited from importing/exporting in Australia.

Possible that they are prohibited in NZ, but from what it looks like, Aus is fine.

(I could be wrong though)

According to this other thread it is banned in Australia:

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1558930

and also this thread:

http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1658071

Plus a quick google search for “yohimbine HCL banned Australia” will bring back several websites which mention that it is banned.

None of those sites are official though.

There may also be some confusion in that “Yohimbine HCL” is banned but “Yohimbe” itself is not.

I think that is because “Yohimbine HCL” is a concentrated extract and Yohimbe is just the original bark from the tree.

From reading the above two threads it seems NZ is just catching up to where Australia aleady is, banning HOT-ROX and pretty much everything.

If it is banned in NZ it’s unlikely to be official. Last year there was a big who-ha over adopting the same laws that regulate supplements in oz. In the end the idea was dropped due to public protest.

That doesn’t stop them from imposing unofficial bans. I’m in the process of getting my gun dealers permit and have been informed of numerous guns that ‘won’t make it through customs’ even though there was no law passed stating so.

Every government agency here has rules and regulations that they’re supposed follow, but if read most of them they say somewhere that it’s still up to the discretion of some offical or another.

The beauty of socialism. ‘Don’t worry we’ll protect you from yourselves.’

yes, yohimbine is banned in australia. it’s absolutely ridiculous and i’m 100% sick of customs but there you go.

Bummer!

its not banned in NZ. I have just bought some from Biotest edge in NZ…they are the Biotest distributors here

Check ingredients - no yohimbine

Its banned in ireland too apparently but not in in Britain. so i get it sent to me at uni and its fine. i dont understand y thou?