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[quote]pookie wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
On the bright side - The liberals performance over the next two years all but guarantees us that the Republicans will win the White House again in 2008.

Translation: The Republicans now have a scapegoat on which to blame all their past, present and future fuck-ups.

The rest is pretty funny, though.
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Exactly. Just like how everything has been Clinton’s fault for the last couple months…it’s like their preparing to go back to crying about us again.

I actually didn’t read the rest, because…well, Hack is constantly full of shit. So much so that I’m starting to think he’s an alter ego for either JerkoffR or Headhunter.

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[quote]pookie wrote:
Wreckless wrote:

Great one.
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That’s not funny, you must hate America…

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
Ren wrote:

But here’s an idea, maybe your party can sit back and remember that there are more important things that affect the American people than flag burning amendments and stopping gays from getting married…

I don’t care for constitutional amendments being offered to ban gay marriage, but never forget, this has its genesis in a runaway Supreme Court giving away hints that it is willing to rip this issue away from the the democratic process - where it rightly belongs - and enshrine it by fiat.

After the experience with Roe v. Wade - the Dred Scott of this generation’s jurisprudence - people are getting pretty testy over having our Secular Papacy in Washington DC handing down rights from the mountaintops, and that goes for a range of people, not just fundamentalist Christians.[/quote]

These activist judges that you guys love crying about are counteracting tremendous anti-gay hatred in this country.

If they find that it’s unconstitutional to ban gay marriage, then that’s the decision- they are there to judge, aren’t they?

And if the majority of the country feels that gays should be oppressed and have limited rights, then I don’t want the judges agreeing with them at all.

The Supreme Court is, as far as I can tell, the only thing that has kept the fucking abortions that are running this country from destroying the Constitution.

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[quote]LNEX wrote:
pookie wrote:
Wreckless wrote:

Great one.

That’s not funny, you must hate America…[/quote]

Yep, they are both non-American American political experts.

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[quote]pookie wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
On the bright side - The liberals performance over the next two years all but guarantees us that the Republicans will win the White House again in 2008.

Translation: The Republicans now have a scapegoat on which to blame all their past, present and future fuck-ups.

The rest is pretty funny, though.
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If you do anything in life you are bound to screw-up. If you don’t do anything you are bound to never screw-up.

So the Republicans have tried things that don’t work.

What are the Dem’s going to do to fix Iraq? Pull the troops out and you have civil war and more terrorist hitting all western targets.

So please tell me what bright ideas do the Dem’s have to fix this?

So the slogan should be: “Vote Democrat, we won’t do anything so we will never screw-up!”

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[quote]Lorisco wrote:
So the slogan should be: “Vote Democrat, we won’t do anything so we will never screw-up!”

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Perfect!

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[quote]Hack Wilson wrote:
Hooray For Liberals! [/quote]

Awww. A change of heart.

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[quote]Lorisco wrote:

So the slogan should be: “Vote Democrat, we won’t do anything so we will never screw-up!”

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As someone who doesn’t much care for big government fuckups, the idea of two years of gridlock is rather appealing.

If Bush had used his veto more than once and the Congress had actually engaged in a little oversight, then maybe the Republicans might not be in the situation they’ve found themselves. Gridlock is closer to conservatism than anything the Republicans have done over the past several years.

Hopefully there will be some serious bloodletting and renewal in the party over the next two years so we can see a competitive '08 campaign.

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[quote]Lorisco wrote:
If you do anything in life you are bound to screw-up. If you don’t do anything you are bound to never screw-up.[/quote]

Yes, but if you screw up everything you do, there’s also a problem.

Repeatedly. In fact, there’s a long list of badly handled situation from this particular administration.

I have no idea. I follow American politics from afar. I think the Democratic Party is in near total disarray. I’m not quite sure what their platform is, where they stand on many issues, who’s in charge, etc.

It reminds me of our situation here in Canada, where we’ve had the pleasure of choosing between 5 (now 4) parties who all equally suck.

The old adage “people get the government they deserve” hold true, it seems.

I don’t know. I’ve given my personal opinion on the matter two or three times in other threads, I’m not optimistic that anyone, Rep or Dem, can fix the current situation.

Maybe the Dems, by virtue of not being Bush & Co. could get back some allied support and get help in Iraq. A multinational coalition would probably be able to garner more support and worldwide goodwill. I’m not holding my breath, though.

Depending on the outcome today, you might have two upcoming years where not much will get done. In the case of government, that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

In Canada, we’re on our second minority government in a row. That makes for a lot of compromising being done in the House of Commons, and they tend to walk on eggs. It’s far from being as bad as people thought it would be.

As for saying that Democrats do nothing, that’s a cute slogan, nothing more.

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[quote]Rockscar wrote:
LNEX wrote:
pookie wrote:
Wreckless wrote:

Great one.

That’s not funny, you must hate America…

Yep, they are both non-American American political experts.
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I’d love to discuss Belgian politics with you Rockscar. Just name a topic.

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[quote]Lorisco wrote:
pookie wrote:
Hack Wilson wrote:
On the bright side - The liberals performance over the next two years all but guarantees us that the Republicans will win the White House again in 2008.

Translation: The Republicans now have a scapegoat on which to blame all their past, present and future fuck-ups.

The rest is pretty funny, though.

If you do anything in life you are bound to screw-up. If you don’t do anything you are bound to never screw-up.

So the Republicans have tried things that don’t work.

What are the Dem’s going to do to fix Iraq? Pull the troops out and you have civil war and more terrorist hitting all western targets.

So please tell me what bright ideas do the Dem’s have to fix this?

So the slogan should be: “Vote Democrat, we won’t do anything so we will never screw-up!”

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I’ve told you before, the situation in Iraq can not be fixed. It’s a mess. It can’t be won.

It’s like playing a chess game. When you play a string of good moves, you get a nice list of good options. When you play a string of bad moves, you’re running for shelter.

I can tell you’re a Bush supporter by letting him of the hook for the stupid, stupid, stupid mistakes he made, that people have warned him against.

But now you want the Democrats to fix the situation.

That’s not how it works. Da chimp had his chance. He’s incompetent. He fucked up.

It will take the grown ups decades to clean up his mess. Don’t expect a quick fix. If you do, you’ll be fooled by the next lying peace of shit and vote for the wrong guy AGAIN.

But that’s probably your intention all along.

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
I’ve told you before, the situation in Iraq can not be fixed. It’s a mess. It can’t be won.

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That’s very enlightened, very European, very BELGIAN thinking. Thanks for sharing it. Of course, you speak from experience. You folks have a long history of giving up. Isn’t the standard greeting “I surrender!” in Belgium?

I would like to discuss Belgian politics for a while. First off, who is the Minister of the Waffle Maker over there these days? Because whoever he is I hope he gets another term. I had some of your waffles the other day, and I have to say, they were marvelous! Aside from that, what else is going on over there?

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
I’ve told you before, the situation in Iraq can not be fixed. It’s a mess. It can’t be won.[/quote]

What a ton of horseshit! So your saying that the situation in Iraq can’t be won!? Your saying that there’s absolutely NO way that the situation can’t be improved!?Your saying that there is absolutely NO fix in Iraq!?

WOW, is this the same perseverance that you show in the middle of a hard lift? “Ooooohhh, this lift is tough!BAM(weights hitting the floor), I’ll just give up.”“There’s no way to finish the lift”

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It’s like playing a chess game. When you play a string of good moves, you get a nice list of good options. When you play a string of bad moves, you’re running for shelter.

I can tell you’re a Bush supporter by letting him of the hook for the stupid, stupid, stupid mistakes he made, that people have warned him against.

But now you want the Democrats to fix the situation.

That’s not how it works. Da chimp had his chance. He’s incompetent. He fucked up.

It will take the grown ups decades to clean up his mess. Don’t expect a quick fix. If you do, you’ll be fooled by the next lying peace of shit and vote for the wrong guy AGAIN.

But that’s probably your intention all along.[/quote]

So you’ve shown ZERO patience for the operation in Iraq, but you expect total patience for whatever the left might want to do? Nothing like a good set of double standards.

Bush has always said that the war on terror, and the operation in Iraq, would be long endeavors, and not quick fixes. Do you remember that wreckless? I’m sure that you don’t.

Your such a partisan hack. Your rabid anti-Bushism is getting in the way of your thinking. Good luck with that.

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[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

These activist judges that you guys love crying about are counteracting tremendous anti-gay hatred in this country.[/quote]

Whatever the sentiment, is not for judges to act or counteract. They are judges, not legislators. They don’t do policy.

So when Justice Taney ruled that black people could never have any rights in the country even if the national Congress amended the rules to grant black people all the rights of white people, then that’s the decision - he is there to judge, isn’t he?

Feel good about that? You better - because that is the kind of judging you support. Never forget - judges with this all-power you speak of won’t always rule in a way that you like. But then, maybe you like the whole Dres Scot approach?

Judges don’t get to make up law to suit their political preferences. If you actually thought about it for any length of time and the implications of such an approach, you would be aghast at such a rule by judges. For a rootin’, tootin’ democrat so worried about ‘tyranny’, you have no qualms over unelected lawyers on a bench in DC handing down laws that you have no ability to vote on?

Weird - you are more scared of a term-limited executive that is subject to a national vote than you are unelected judges who can make law at a whim subject to no political oversight.

You are either a political hypocrite or just plain confused - which is it?

Then its not judges you want - you want an oligarchy. You should be frightened of yourself - a proud fighting man for the common bloke willing to set up an oligarchy tenured for life in a country based on democratic republican principles? Irish, to be frank - you are false advertising.

I will need to see your version of the Constitution - it must have rules that mine doesn’t. Better question: are the things you are so angry about actually in the Constitution, or do you just want them to be?

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[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Wreckless wrote:
I’ve told you before, the situation in Iraq can not be fixed. It’s a mess. It can’t be won.

What a ton of horseshit! So your saying that the situation in Iraq can’t be won!? Your saying that there’s absolutely NO way that the situation can’t be improved!?Your saying that there is absolutely NO fix in Iraq!?

WOW, is this the same perseverance that you show in the middle of a hard lift? “Ooooohhh, this lift is tough!BAM(weights hitting the floor), I’ll just give up.”“There’s no way to finish the lift”

It’s like playing a chess game. When you play a string of good moves, you get a nice list of good options. When you play a string of bad moves, you’re running for shelter.

I can tell you’re a Bush supporter by letting him of the hook for the stupid, stupid, stupid mistakes he made, that people have warned him against.

But now you want the Democrats to fix the situation.

That’s not how it works. Da chimp had his chance. He’s incompetent. He fucked up.

It will take the grown ups decades to clean up his mess. Don’t expect a quick fix. If you do, you’ll be fooled by the next lying peace of shit and vote for the wrong guy AGAIN.

But that’s probably your intention all along.

So you’ve shown ZERO patience for the operation in Iraq, but you expect total patience for whatever the left might want to do? Nothing like a good set of double standards.

Bush has always said that the war on terror, and the operation in Iraq, would be long endeavors, and not quick fixes. Do you remember that wreckless? I’m sure that you don’t.

Your such a partisan hack. Your rabid anti-Bushism is getting in the way of your thinking. Good luck with that.

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He can’t be a partisan hack because he is Belgian. He just has nothing better to do then to bash the U.S. He is just a typical euro-weenie who will roll over and pee on himself when the going gets tough; and wait for England or America to bail his sorry ass out. He thinks terrorists have no interest in bombing Belgium because the Belgians are supportive and tolerant of islamic extremism. The reason why Belgium is a target is because Antwerp is a rather large port (2nd largest in Europe I think) and the Islamic nut-jobs would happily bomb it order to fuck up the European economy as a whole because they stupidly tied it all together with the EU.

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No Hack, Hooray for America!!

EDIT–The dems want to “reach across the isle.” The reps should be laughing becasue when GWB got elected in 2000 they haven’t so much as looked across the isle. Those dems sure are suckers!

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[quote]pat36 wrote:
You give them to much credit for being smart. They actually believe that the majority of americans are behind them because of the decent on the war.
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Decent?

You mean dissent?

[quote]pat36 wrote:
You give them to much credit for being smart. [/quote]

Dumbass.

Great thread though. DUH!!!

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yeah, Hack. What a bummer it will be for the party in power to look after the little guy for a change. Bet it really pisses you off that the minimum wage might go up for the first time in 9 years, or that a whole new industry for business might get created by creating stem cell research. Or that some of the “National Guard” might get to come home and see their families.

Yeah, what a bummer for the Republicans. No more working 2 days a week to see that their contituates get everything they need. And what a bummer that our schools might actually get the money they need instead of some really expensive fighter jets.

And maybe, just maybe we can get our deficit under control like it was 7 or 8 years ago. How nice it might be if we become financially responsible again.

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[quote]Skystud wrote:
yeah, Hack. What a bummer it will be for the party in power to look after the little guy for a change. Bet it really pisses you off that the minimum wage might go up for the first time in 9 years, or that a whole new industry for business might get created by creating stem cell research. Or that some of the “National Guard” might get to come home and see their families.

Yeah, what a bummer for the Republicans. No more working 2 days a week to see that their contituates get everything they need. And what a bummer that our schools might actually get the money they need instead of some really expensive fighter jets.

And maybe, just maybe we can get our deficit under control like it was 7 or 8 years ago. How nice it might be if we become financially responsible again.[/quote]

Hey, douche. No one is creating stem-cell research. You dumb fuck. Missouri can now allocate goverment fund for research. It’s not creating an industry. It already exists. It’s the Medical Research industry. And I’m sure that it’s a BIG BUSINESS that you’d like to shut down…If they make a profit that is.

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You sound very angry.

What’s the matter, did you have a bad night?