Honest Workout Critique?

It’s a compliment I babysat can’t you tell :hugs:

My condolences, man. If I never said it while you were alive, I think you were pretty damn cool.

I’m gonna go walk a farmer in your honor.

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I enjoy these threads where people can get advice from competitive strongmen, professional bodybuilders, old-farts with great physiques, and regular ass strong guys - all of whom have training logs, photos, and video to verify who they are and what they have achieved using the advice they dispense - and yet there’s always one smartass with absolutely no proof that he has accomplished any of those things who feels most qualified to dish out advice.

If OP is even still reading, I would merely advise that you look at the guys in this thread who look most like what you want to achieve, and consider whom to listen to accordingly.

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Clearly the answer is to perform sets of breathing squats every day, AMRAP with 185 pounds, and then flip a coin after to determine whether you get to eat dinner, which will be two pounds of uncooked beef heart.

How none of you amateurs recommended this routine is beyond me.

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Except the advice I gave - fix your diet and focus more on compound exercises (instead of isolation) is sound advice.

That’s not being a smart ass. That’s just sound fucking advice.

If people disagree with that I don’t give a shit.

At this point the only surprise is that he hasn’t started promoting the bent press, but there’s still time.

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Will this help me take down an ibex?

It may help you take down a homophobe

See, the problem is, it’s a little more complicated than that.

  1. the “fix your diet” advice you gave was to lower carbohydrates to 10-15% of consumption. Several others have pointed out that, when starting a weight loss journey, it’s probably best to find the highest point you can where you are still losing weight, and reduce them slowly over time. Starting that low leaves you nowhere to go if/when progress eventually stalls.

  2. “focus more on compounds instead of isolation” is a tired and lazy statement. In some cases it is what’s needed, yes, but most people thoughtlessly parroting this haven’t really given all that much thought to the specifics of the situation.

Check out a video of me deadlifting 600 pounds; then go look at EyeDentist’s profile photo; then consider that EyeDentist does most of his work on machines and with pink dumbbells while I do exclusively compound lifts; then maybe you can reconsider your position that OP must focus on compound lifts to get and remain shredded. If EyeDentist and I stood next to one another with our shirts off, I’d be the one getting DYEL treatment while the ladiez would no doubt be asking if they could touch his arms and asking how he got all muscle-y.

Sure. Would you care to share a video and/or photo indicating how far you’ve gotten following this sound fucking advice? Is it more advanced than @flipcollar, @The_Mighty_Stu, @EyeDentist?

Ah, another of my favorite Internet tropes: the dude who spends 20+ posts of his own arguing a minute detail that finally tosses out the “I don’t really care” vibe. Solid. Here’s an internet star for you.

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Well said @ActivitiesGuy :hugs:

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I’ve tried almost every split there is and have found full body workouts to be the most effective (FOR ME). Out of the splits I’ve tried, I liked push/pull or upper/lower the best, never really got good results with the one body part a day, 5 day or 6 day split, that was the worst split… IMO.

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Funny, I don’t recall ever having argued with you…

If you think he’s talking through his hat about diet/lifting, you should hear him expound about science, specifically research.

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Haha, “talking through his hat.” Are you really so well-mannered you can’t bring yourself to say “ass?”

Oh ED, how I love thee

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Regarding kaibee, don’t feed the trolls. He’s searching for attention here because he doesn’t get any IRL. Stop pissing on the thread and then tell us it’s just raining!

I’m not sure on your training history or experience level but I just wanted to touch on something that I experienced.

I mostly train full body or upper lower or push pull but that’s mostly because it fits my schedule better, now if I had more time and more training days I think I would be training more with a traditional body part split.

I’m a big fan of push pull full body and would recommend it to anyone, especially beginners or those who can only train 3 times a week. I really didn’t do well on a body part spilt in the past but that’s down to inexperience. Which is why I think splits fail for a lot of beginners.

Splits become more effective when…
You are better at managing volume
You are better at managing failure
You are better at tracking progression
You have a better grasp of nutrition

So if you tried a split earlier on in your training life you may want to give it another shot again as you may have better success.

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Please god, no.

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Well, I considered saying it.

OK, you’re right–I couldn’t do it. Very observant of you.

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I feel like this was a really underrated part of this thread.

Hope your day improves, @strongmangoals.

See, it’s clever, because you were engaged in an argument, and usually people who say this in such condescending fashion actually don’t hope that your day improves! I wonder, thought, did it actually improve? The suspense is terrible. I hope it lasts.

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Been lifting for a long time, a lot of trial and error. So somewhat experienced, I definitely won’t claim to know everything and I’m sure there are a lot who are much more experienced than I am here.

I’ve had all the time in the world through a few months of every year to try different things and I have, not just for a day or two and then quit either, like actually give different splits a chance. I do think it matters what your end goal is though, I just want to look good and have a decent amount of strength as I get older. I’m not looking to be a mass monster or get down to under 10% body fat either. So you’re right about it fitting your schedule or lifestyle, it does make a big difference to how you’re going to want to train and I find full body workouts to be a lot more enjoyable to do and if you aren’t enjoying your workout, you’re not going to want to stay consistent, which is obviously important.

I agree with the rest of this. I’ve given splits a shot on and off for a long time, I always end up going back to full body, seems to manage my weight the best too. Nutrition is the hardest part for me, unfortunately it’s also the most important part, lol. I love food, bad food.