[quote]Lorisco wrote:
NickMunro wrote:
NealRaymond2 wrote:
The only thing that looks like a problem regarding the dinosaurs is that Genesis says the world was created in six days. Assume that “day” could be a metaphor or alternate word meaning “era” rather than “24-hour period” and the dinosaur problem is solved.
Not even close. There is tonnes of data which shows that the Earth is billions of years old. Also, the organisms of each era are always found at the same depth, that is to say, dig down a bit and you find humans, dig a bit further and you find ancient man, a bit further and it’s dinosaurs etc… The organisms are perfectly arranged in order of their age, the further down you go, the older they are.
The ID explanation for this is laughable, so I hope you have a better one.
NickMunro
Not that I want to get into this ID discussion again. But Dude, if you are trying to support evolution you really such at it! Your concept that each layer of the earth’s strata contains organism arranged by age has been refuted over and over. Evolutionists do not state that idea anymore because it conflicts with lots of other evidence.
For example, the theory of the Grand Canyon being created over millions of years by the Colorado river conflicts with the Strata idea you are pushing. Because if the canyon was cut over millions or years and life did evolve from simple to complex organisms then you would see that laid out in the Strata. The deeper you go the organisms would be less complex and you would also see intermediary species.
Yet, the facts of the Grand Canyon Strata reveal something very different. Going down through the Strata there is no progression between less complex to more complex organisms and there are no intermediary species. The Strata shows no organic life whatsoever and then as it moves upward fully formed complex organisms. So no progression from simple to complex and no intermediary species.
So Bro, either the Grand Canyon is not a billion years old or the Strata theory is bogus. As a result, most evolutionists have abandoned the Strata theory. So perhaps you should as well.
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Thats crap Lorisco, and you’d know it if you’d read this post - directed at you back in the day, and followed the links, as any investigator interested in truth would:
http://www.T-Nation.com/readTopic.do?id=961323&pageNo=0#963064
Lorisco said:
That’s a good point. I believe the current evolutionary theory holds that the grand canyon was cut over millions of years by the Colorado river. And if that were true (holding to evolutionary theory) you would see the different emerging organic species outlined in the fossil record, starting with single cell organisms moving up to fully formed organisms and all the millions of intermediary species.
Well guess what sport? The fossil record of the Grand Canyon reveals fully formed organisms with no intermediary species down to a certain strata of earth/rock and then nothing, nada, zilch! No organic life what so ever. Damn! No how did that happen?
Let’s see, inorganic material only and then all of a sudden fully formed organisms. Hummmm!
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evolutionary theory holds that the grand canyon formed over millions of yrs?
thats geology’s field - not evolutionary science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/…_Canyon#Geology
heres a basic overview:
The Colorado River basin (of which the Grand Canyon is a part) has developed in the past 40 million years and the Grand Canyon itself is probably less than five to six million years old (with most of the downcutting occurring in the last two million years).
Now go here
http://www.kaibab.org/...gy/gc_layer.htm
This link shows a basic fossil record and age of rock found in the Grand Canyon.
Oldest fossils are Stromatolites (single celled algae colonies) ? 1.25B yrs in late Pre-Cambrian rock, up to fish teeth in Paleozoic rock (fish being vertibrates and complex organisms) 250M yrs
I dunno what your problem with this is - is it perhaps theres a couple of unconformities in the middle?
heres a definition
http://www.answers.com/...conformity&r=67
Geology. A surface between successive strata representing a missing interval in the geologic record of time, and produced either by an interruption in deposition or by the erosion of depositionally continuous strata followed by renewed deposition
So due to the 2 major unconformities within the strata of the grand canyon, you won’t find mid-level species in the fossil record. The erosive power of 450M yrs has wiped them out.
Now go here:
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/...ia/cyanofr.html
There are bacteria dated in rock at around 3.6B yrs
The oldest known rock is around 3.8B yrs.
So there is a rough 300Million yrs for organic self-replicating molecules to develop.
The oldest fossil in the Grand Canyon is 1.25B yrs. There could have been further stromat. fossils in the record if further metamorphosis had’nt happend (schist).
So possibly the grand canyon could have had a fossil record going back 2B yrs, but geological processes have destroyed anything older than 1.25B yrs.
