[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
A moat full of alligators, piranhas, and electric eels. [/quote]
I hope that works out better for you than my moat full of alligators and pythons did for me.
[quote]5.0 wrote:
I’m sorry boatguy, what did you say?
Your avatar has caught my attention, for the moment…[/quote]
Quit starin at my ass!
[quote]boatguy wrote:
5.0 wrote:
I’m sorry boatguy, what did you say?
Your avatar has caught my attention, for the moment…
Quit starin at my ass![/quote]
Quit waivin’ it in my face!
Okay, no, don’t quit that.
Most important is knowing your state laws, specifically if you are in a “duty to retreat” state or not. This is the only way you will know under what circumstances you can use deadly force of any kind so-called “justifiably”.
Many states make it impossible to defend yourself with totally unrealistic “rules of engagement” (designed by anti-gun/self defense politicians who live with armed bodyguard protection and in gated communities…
these are the fools who piously whine about everyone not “needing” guns, and we Americans are “lucky”, there are entire countries where this is the case…You a-holes know who you are), intended to punish you for protecting yourself.
If you are forced by law to give ground in your own home to armed criminals and injure one of the attacking goblins, the “law” will treat you like the bad guy and the criminal as the “victim”.
All this talk about hardware is well and good, but it is the aftermath that is important to your well being, so do your research and get your ducks in a row prior to an incident “just in case”.
As for hardware, quick and dirty rules of thumb: Use a pistol/long gun/ammunition type equivalent to what your local/state Police are using, even if it is not the best/optimal, (Dump the fancy “death ray bullets” and “super King CobraPitt Bull Special” firearm)…This will save your ass in Court, where you will be portrayed as a trigger happy killer who was eager to ruthlessly murder the scum who attacked you.
Always, like the Police & Military, aim for center mass, avoid head shots, again for the same reasons I already stated. Trust me on this stuff, I know what I’m talking about here!. [i]You may not like it & it’s not as sexy as talking guns stuff, but I bet you’d like an unjustified prison jolt a lot less!!!
[/i] (Just like getting caught by the wrong LEO’s holding some AAS these days in the unjustified, legally bankrupt, totalitarian, inquisitional “War on Testosterone”)…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I bought a lion.[/quote]
Does it only eat Christians?
[quote]GhorigTheBeefy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I bought a lion.
Does it only eat Christians?[/quote]
Better keep it away from Sampson.
I have a katana, about 25 assorted pocket knives, a switchblade, 3 throwing knives, and a BB gun that i’d use as a club. That’s in my room.
With a little warning (which i’d get, we have a shit-ton of small dogs), in dad’s gun case-10 feet from my room, there’s:
357 magnum
45 cal m1911
.308 rifle obviously not a good choice for home defense
about 10 different gauge shotguns, a 22 long barrel pistol, and a bayonet.
I live in a 2nd floor 1 bedroom apartment so the first two points of entry is the front door or the large living room windows. Below the windows is my “Toybox”, basically its where I store all my strong man stuff and my tool boxes. I pity anyone who tries to travers that much crap in darkness. Plus there are two buckets of chains that will spill over pretty easily making a ton of noise.
The front door I rig to knock over empty beer bottles if opened, it makes enough noise to wake me. The balcony entrance would take some acrobatics to reach.
For my own defense I keep a Mossberg pump by the bed and either 1911-A1 or Springfield XD .45 on the nightstand.
[quote]5.0 wrote:
I read an article written by supposed thieves who outlined what deterred them from breaking into a home. I was surprised that they mentioned the family rott or pitt wasn’t a deterrent. The common theme actually was a home alarm system.
I’m not interested in your home security system per se, but moreso in what weaponry you choose as your home defender. Hand gun, rifle, shotgun…
I have and prefer the shotgun. Cheap, reliable. And there’s nothing like the effect of the sound of racking a shotgun. And as far as the load, you can’t go wrong with buckshot or a slug.
I’ve been to a few firearms courses over time. I’ve seen a shotgun slug push a level II bullet proof vest through the hole it created in the carrier. Unreal.
What’s your weapon of choice?[/quote],
So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
trusty 357[/quote]
My Mr. Blasty is also a S&W 686 w/ 6" barrel. Sometimes I keep it in my nightstand (w/ .38spl JHPs) and sometimes I don’t.
For piss-in-their-pants intimidation I could always carry around Blasty’s big brother Kong (500 Magnum), but that would make a godawful mess if I had to use it.
[quote]Blacksnake wrote:
Most important is knowing your state laws, specifically if you are in a “duty to retreat” state or not. This is the only way you will know under what circumstances you can use deadly force of any kind so-called “justifiably”.
Many states make it impossible to defend yourself with totally unrealistic “rules of engagement” (designed by anti-gun/self defense politicians who live with armed bodyguard protection and in gated communities…
these are the fools who piously whine about everyone not “needing” guns, and we Americans are “lucky”, there are entire countries where this is the case…You a-holes know who you are), intended to punish you for protecting yourself.
If you are forced by law to give ground in your own home to armed criminals and injure one of the attacking goblins, the “law” will treat you like the bad guy and the criminal as the “victim”.
All this talk about hardware is well and good, but it is the aftermath that is important to your well being, so do your research and get your ducks in a row prior to an incident “just in case”.
As for hardware, quick and dirty rules of thumb: Use a pistol/long gun/ammunition type equivalent to what your local/state Police are using, even if it is not the best/optimal, (Dump the fancy “death ray bullets” and “super King CobraPitt Bull Special” firearm)…This will save your ass in Court, where you will be portrayed as a trigger happy killer who was eager to ruthlessly murder the scum who attacked you.
Always, like the Police & Military, aim for center mass, avoid head shots, again for the same reasons I already stated. Trust me on this stuff, I know what I’m talking about here!. [i]You may not like it & it’s not as sexy as talking guns stuff, but I bet you’d like an unjustified prison jolt a lot less!!!
[/i] (Just like getting caught by the wrong LEO’s holding some AAS these days in the unjustified, legally bankrupt, totalitarian, inquisitional “War on Testosterone”)… [/quote]
Good points, Blacksnake. I didn’t intend this to be a lesson on shoot/don’t shoot, however, when it comes down to it, yes, there is a huge liability having and/or carrying firearms. For those that actually have formal military and/or police training, you can count on being held to a higher standard, even if it is your own property where the shooting occurs. No court or jury would side with a property owner, if it was only his property that was in jeopardy.
[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
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So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
[/quote]
Deaths by handgun because people leave the shotguns at home?
[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
5.0 wrote:
So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
[/quote]
How do you make that distinction? Am I to ask an intruder in MY house, are you here to kill my family or just take my shit?
Unfortunately, I have young kids so my firearms are not easily accessible. I have to rely on my dog, a bat and various bladed weapons as a deterrent. As for the dog, it is a golden retriever, so the only real deterrent is it’s deep bark and the fact that the perp will probably get tired of it licking them.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
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So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
Deaths by handgun because people leave the shotguns at home?[/quote]
Lol, and what exactly is the difference between a thief and a robber? Perhaps it’s the case of me being a typical dumb american, but I thought they were one and the same.
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Lol, and what exactly is the difference between a thief and a robber? Perhaps it’s the case of me being a typical dumb american, but I thought they were one and the same.[/quote]
I’ll go on my Cliff Claven rant here…
Often confused terms. “I’ve been robbed!” sounds better than, “I’ve been burgled!”
Robbery involves the actual threat or use of force; burglary doesn’t.
I.E. The ‘robber’ holds you up at gunpoint; the thief sneaks into your home and steals your stuff, which you see is missing when you get home.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
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So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
Deaths by handgun because people leave the shotguns at home?[/quote]
Well, i’ve lived there and its a big difference from having a shotgun at home and one locked and loaded behind a few doors here and there… But honestly, why are there so many freaking people killed in america? Just look at your neighbor canada, more handguns per person, not even close to the amount of kills. Just saying, pair of brass knuckles or a nice little baton will do the trick…
PS: Got several guns at home myself, but i dont plan to use them if a burglar comes in my house…
[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
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So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
Deaths by handgun because people leave the shotguns at home?
Lol, and what exactly is the difference between a thief and a robber? Perhaps it’s the case of me being a typical dumb american, but I thought they were one and the same.[/quote]
If im not incorrect a thief steals from you without harming or you even noticing, but a robber holds you at for example gun points and robs you… I might be mixing some words here, sorry about that if thats the case, my english isnt perfect.
[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
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So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
Deaths by handgun because people leave the shotguns at home?
Well, i’ve lived there and its a big difference from having a shotgun at home and one locked and loaded behind a few doors here and there… But honestly, why are there so many freaking people killed in america? Just look at your neighbor canada, more handguns per person, not even close to the amount of kills. Just saying, pair of brass knuckles or a nice little baton will do the trick…
PS: Got several guns at home myself, but i dont plan to use them if a burglar comes in my house… [/quote]
I seriously doubt Canada has more handguns per person. There are many people killed by handguns in America by bad people. I’m a good guy. I’m not the problem.
You obviously dopn’t have a clue in this regard.
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
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So american… You honestly dont need a 12 gauge shotgun to deal with thievs… They are thievs, not robbers… No wonder america got so many deaths by handguns every year…
Deaths by handgun because people leave the shotguns at home?
Well, i’ve lived there and its a big difference from having a shotgun at home and one locked and loaded behind a few doors here and there… But honestly, why are there so many freaking people killed in america? Just look at your neighbor canada, more handguns per person, not even close to the amount of kills. Just saying, pair of brass knuckles or a nice little baton will do the trick…
PS: Got several guns at home myself, but i dont plan to use them if a burglar comes in my house…
I seriously doubt Canada has more handguns per person. There are many people killed by handguns in America by bad people. I’m a good guy. I’m not the problem.
You obviously dopn’t have a clue in this regard.
[/quote]
“OK”
Take a look at bowling for colombine for exact number of handguns… A lot more people hunt in canada, remember that… This is not countin illegal firearms ofcourse
[quote]Andyyboy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
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Well, i’ve lived there and its a big difference from having a shotgun at home and one locked and loaded behind a few doors here and there… But honestly, why are there so many freaking people killed in america? Just look at your neighbor canada, more handguns per person, not even close to the amount of kills. Just saying, pair of brass knuckles or a nice little baton will do the trick…
PS: Got several guns at home myself, but i dont plan to use them if a burglar comes in my house… [/quote]
There are not more handguns per person in Canada, and if someone had one on that bus that kid might still be alive.
Handguns are quite rare in Canada, I believe there are more long guns per capita though.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Andyyboy wrote:
…
Well, i’ve lived there and its a big difference from having a shotgun at home and one locked and loaded behind a few doors here and there… But honestly, why are there so many freaking people killed in america? Just look at your neighbor canada, more handguns per person, not even close to the amount of kills. Just saying, pair of brass knuckles or a nice little baton will do the trick…
PS: Got several guns at home myself, but i dont plan to use them if a burglar comes in my house…
There are not more handguns per person in Canada, and if someone had one on that bus that kid might still be alive.
Handguns are quite rare in Canada, I believe there are more long guns per capita though.[/quote]
Thought that counted as handgun, like i said earlier. My english isn’t perfect. I’m not trying to provoke anyone or make anyone mad or let their inner patriotic beast out. I am just saying there is a reason why so many people get killed in america and i really see that looking on this post. We get charged with manslaughter if i were to kill thief.