Hillary vs. Carson?

Well, Carson is done. This isn’t going away.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Well, Carson is done. This isn’t going away.[/quote]

You may very well be right. Gee, I wonder why there are no cries of racism? Oh that’s right the left only uses racism as a tool when it suits their needs.

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[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]magick wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

Really? [/quote]

Why does Ben Carson want to become POTUS?[/quote]

I think it’s obvious that he wants to gain that power in order to conduct evil experiments inside the White House.

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Not too much of a stretch. Remember, Romney was going to “put ya’ll back in chains.”[/quote]

Yeah, the genius Joe Biden used that one. What a complete goof he is.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Carson is well-meaning but disconcertingly naive. He definitely isn’t presendential timber.

BEN CARSON: THE IRAN DEAL PROVES PRESIDENT OBAMA IS ANTI-SEMITIC

I don’t think it’s just the Iran deal that shows Obama to be anti-Semitic. I think its the way he has treated Israel for the past 7 years that proves he’s anti-Semitic.
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Antisemitism is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic, religious, or racial group. How is an arms control agreement intended to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state (and maintain Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region) antisemitic? Carson was grossly irresponsible for insinuating as much.

The administration is also committed to maintaining Israel’s qualitative military edge. As the Washington Post reports, President Obama has promised increased U.S. arms shipments to Israel:

"the administration is holding talks with Israeli officials to extend for an additional decade the Bush administrationâ??s 10-year, $30 billion plan to pay for Israelâ??s foreign military purchases of equipment and training, mostly from U.S. firms. The agreement was signed in 2007 and runs out in fiscal 2018. The new deal would â??cement for the next decade our unprecedented levels of military assistance,â?? Obama said in the Nadler letter.

Current discussions involve raising the annual amount, which at $3.1 billion a year is more than half of all U.S. foreign military sales support worldwide, to possibly $3.5 billion a year. At that level it would almost equal 20 percent of Israelâ??s entire defense budget."

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

Antisemitism is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic, religious, or racial group. How is an arms control agreement intended to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state (and maintain Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region) antisemitic? Carson was grossly irresponsible for insinuating as much.

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Pittbullian logic at its finest.
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How so? Anyone who believes that the Iran Nuclear Deal is underpinned by antisemitism is by definition a jackass.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

Antisemitism is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic, religious, or racial group. How is an arms control agreement intended to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state (and maintain Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region) antisemitic? Carson was grossly irresponsible for insinuating as much.

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Pittbullian logic at its finest.
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LOL…handing Israel’s worst enemy 100 billion dollars and giving them the right to build nuclear arms is certainly nothing Israel wants. And all while they chant “death to Israel”. It’s only something an anti-Semite would ever approve.

This is just not a hard one to figure out…for adults that is.

The Iran deal is atrocious, but it isn’t born out of anti-Semitism - it’s born out of immeasurable naivete and a failure of imagination.

But Obama doesn’t hate Jews. And, as if Zeb’s nonsense needs to be corrected on what is a contender for most absurd post on PWI, Obama does not hate white people.

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Well, Carson is done. This isn’t going away.[/quote]

Agreed. Carson was never ready for prime-time. On policy or on personal grounds (vetting). Not even for a mayoral race.

And complaining about an unfair media is like a batter complaining the pitcher throws too fast. You knew it would be this way prior to stepping into the batter’s box.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
The Iran deal is atrocious, but it isn’t born out of anti-Semitism - it’s born out of immeasurable naivete and a failure of imagination.

But Obama doesn’t hate Jews. And, as if Zeb’s nonsense needs to be corrected on what is a contender for most absurd post on PWI, Obama does not hate white people.[/quote]

He attends a black racist church for 20 years. He floods the country with illegal non-whites. And in 7 years I have not yet heard him once give credit to our founding fathers as many past Presidents have summoned. Fair enough he doesn’t hate white people let’s just say their not at the top of his list.

He doesn’t hate the Jewish people either he just wants to make sure their enemies are very well armed–GOT IT.

At least you are correct on the Iran deal, so you’re making progress.

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
The Iran deal is atrocious, but it isn’t born out of anti-Semitism - it’s born out of immeasurable naivete and a failure of imagination.

But Obama doesn’t hate Jews. And, as if Zeb’s nonsense needs to be corrected on what is a contender for most absurd post on PWI, Obama does not hate white people.[/quote]

He attends a black racist church for 20 years. He floods the country with illegal non-whites. And in 7 years I have not yet heard him once give credit to our founding fathers as many past Presidents have summoned. Fair enough he doesn’t hate white people let’s just say their not at the top of his list.

He doesn’t hate the Jewish people either he just wants to make sure their enemies are very well armed–GOT IT.

At least you are correct on the Iran deal, so you’re making progress. [/quote]

He attended the church as part if a cynical strategy to get the political backing it provided. It’s disgusting that he did so, but it doesn’t equate to hating white people.

Further, Ronald Reagan supported an amnesty and I feel fairly confident he didn’t hate white people.

And not citing the Founding Fathers is evidence of being left-wing, but not synonymous with hating white people. I mean, that’s plain stupid.

Your Obama rage is borderline creepy - you can’t stop interjecting it even where what Obama did or thinks is irrelevant - but at the end of the day, Obama is a pretty simple creature: a faculty lounge liberal, no more, no less.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

Antisemitism is prejudice against, hatred of, or discrimination against Jews as an ethnic, religious, or racial group. How is an arms control agreement intended to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear weapons state (and maintain Israel’s nuclear monopoly in the region) antisemitic? Carson was grossly irresponsible for insinuating as much.

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Pittbullian logic at its finest.
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LOL…handing Israel’s worst enemy 100 billion dollars and giving them the right to build nuclear arms is certainly nothing Israel wants. And all while they chant “death to Israel”. It’s only something an anti-Semite would ever approve.

This is just not a hard one to figure out…for adults that is.[/quote]

Yeah. I don’t expect everyone, obviously, to agree with me on everything but some things seems so damn apparent you about have to think the person that says stuff like this just got off a spaceship from one of Neptune’s moons.[/quote]

International politics, diplomacy, and nonproliferation policy require an enormous amount of study - they don’t tolerate argument via gut impulse or analogy. The absurdity of someone criticizing a text that they can’t be bothered to read is profound.

Iran’s windfall from unfrozen assets will not be as significant as you purport it to be. Preexisting financial obligations will reduce the amount of usable liquid assets closer to $50 billion. And given that Iran will need a reasonable amount of that money in foreign reserves, the amount available for Iran’s immediate use will be closer to $25 billion - not a trivial sum, but far less than Iran needs given the infrastructure investment levels required to rebuilt Iran’s economy are estimated to be close to $1 trillion over the next decade.

The JCPOA does not give Iran “the right to build nuclear arms”. Quite to the contrary, the agreement reaffirms Iran’s nonproliferation obligations under international law. Under Article II of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT), Iran is barred from manufacturing or otherwise acquiring nuclear weapons. The JCPOA gives teeth to the NPT by establishing the most robust inspections and monitoring regime in history.

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
The Iran deal is atrocious, but it isn’t born out of anti-Semitism - it’s born out of immeasurable naivete and a failure of imagination.

But Obama doesn’t hate Jews. And, as if Zeb’s nonsense needs to be corrected on what is a contender for most absurd post on PWI, Obama does not hate white people.[/quote]

I don’t think it was born out of anti-Semitism but I firmly believe it’s part of the picture. I also believe Obama hates the Jewish state which is close enough for me to hating Jews.[/quote]

Yep. The Obama administration hates Israel. That’s why it resupplied the IDF with much needed ammunition during the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict. Only a fool could miss Obama’s antipathy toward Israel in light of today’s summit meeting. Look at this gem by the president: “I want to be very clear that we condemn in the strongest terms Palestinian violence against innocent Israeli citizens. And I want to repeat once again, it is my strong belief that Israel has not just the right, but the obligation, to protect itself.” Clearly, Obama is throwing Israel under the bus. He even want to extend a ten year package of United States military assistance to Israel and to increase its value by a mere 60 percent. An enemy of Israel if I’ve ever seen one.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
The Iran deal is atrocious, but it isn’t born out of anti-Semitism - it’s born out of immeasurable naivete and a failure of imagination.

But Obama doesn’t hate Jews. And, as if Zeb’s nonsense needs to be corrected on what is a contender for most absurd post on PWI, Obama does not hate white people.[/quote]

He attends a black racist church for 20 years. He floods the country with illegal non-whites. And in 7 years I have not yet heard him once give credit to our founding fathers as many past Presidents have summoned. Fair enough he doesn’t hate white people let’s just say their not at the top of his list.

He doesn’t hate the Jewish people either he just wants to make sure their enemies are very well armed–GOT IT.

At least you are correct on the Iran deal, so you’re making progress. [/quote]

He attended the church as part if a cynical strategy to get the political backing it provided. It’s disgusting that he did so, but it doesn’t equate to hating white people.[/quote]

Yet, he heard hatred preached from the pulpit against whites for 20 years. Your theory that he did it for political purposes might be true. But, if you are telling me that he could not have gained politically elsewhere without the white hate propaganda you should think again. Also, having sat there in the pews for 20 years I have to believe that if he didn’t feel one way or the other toward whites at the beginning he certainly did toward the end. By the way how far do you think you’d get with that argument had any of our former modern day Presidents attended a racist church for 20 years? You are giving Obama a pass he does not deserve.

It was not nearly the magnitude of what Obama has done and you know it. Poor comparison.

It’s not plain stupid when you hear his wife speak of the founding fathers as slave traders. Granted I never heard him say that but I have to believe that she has influence over him as well. Remember she is the one who said, after her husbands first win, “this is the first time I’ve ever been proud of America.” None of that bodes well for loving the country or white people. And by your own admission left wingers do tend to be much more harsh on our founding fathers and their participation in slavery. Add that with the fact that Obama is black. Not hard to put it together.

[quote]Your Obama rage is borderline creepy - you can’t stop interjecting it even where what Obama did or thinks is irrelevant - but at the end of the day, Obama is a pretty simple creature: a faculty lounge liberal, no more, no less.
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I agree that he is a faculty lounge liberal. A white hating, Jew hating faculty lounge liberal. Know your Presidential history TB, he came into office saying what? “I am going to bring a fundamental change to this country.” Now what do you suppose he meant by that? Seven years later we know that part of that was ignoring the border laws and bringing in millions of non-whites some criminals included. Also, taking the side of black criminals against Police on many occasions. You know the incidents I don’t have to spoon feed them to you. Also, while perhaps not inciting riots he certainly turning a blind eye to them with a nod of his head.

Creepy? I think it’s quite realistic if you look at what he has said, says and doesn’t say. And more importantly what he does!

You fail to see it for some reason.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Sloth wrote:
Well, Carson is done. This isn’t going away.[/quote]

Agreed. Carson was never ready for prime-time. On policy or on personal grounds (vetting). Not even for a mayoral race.

And complaining about an unfair media is like a batter complaining the pitcher throws too fast. You knew it would be this way prior to stepping into the batter’s box. [/quote]

I agree with all of that but again was Obama vetted with such ferocity by the mainstream media over such minutia?

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
The Iran deal is atrocious, but it isn’t born out of anti-Semitism - it’s born out of immeasurable naivete and a failure of imagination.

But Obama doesn’t hate Jews. And, as if Zeb’s nonsense needs to be corrected on what is a contender for most absurd post on PWI, Obama does not hate white people.[/quote]

I don’t think it was born out of anti-Semitism but I firmly believe it’s part of the picture. I also believe Obama hates the Jewish state which is close enough for me to hating Jews.[/quote]

Yep. The Obama administration hates Israel. That’s why it resupplied the IDF with much needed ammunition during the 2014 Israel-Gaza conflict. Only a fool could miss Obama’s antipathy toward Israel in light of today’s summit meeting. Look at this gem by the president: “I want to be very clear that we condemn in the strongest terms Palestinian violence against innocent Israeli citizens. And I want to repeat once again, it is my strong belief that Israel has not just the right, but the obligation, to protect itself.” Clearly, Obama is throwing Israel under the bus. He even want to extend a ten year package of United States military assistance to Israel and to increase its value by a mere 60 percent. An enemy of Israel if I’ve ever seen one.[/quote]

Do I really need to list the mile-long list that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama has a distinct antipathy for Israel? Really?

What you listed above, honestly, is an example of even a clock being right twice a day.
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Be my guest.