Hillary vs. Carson?

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Thunderbolt,

How did intervention in Libya constitute “naked illegality”?[/quote]

Obama had no constitutional authority to engage in Libya militarily under the circumstances he did, even according to Obama (the Senator).

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Thunderbolt,

How did intervention in Libya constitute “naked illegality”?[/quote]

Obama had no constitutional authority to engage in Libya militarily under the circumstances he did, even according to Obama (the Senator).[/quote]

Do you think the War Powers Act has had the opposite effect that it intended?

Made to more or less rein in the President, but instead giving the office a bit more of Congress’ power under the guise that the CIC needs to be able to respond more immediately.

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Thunderbolt,

How did intervention in Libya constitute “naked illegality”?[/quote]

Obama had no constitutional authority to engage in Libya militarily under the circumstances he did, even according to Obama (the Senator).[/quote]

This is why experience matters, right Bismark?

Only a street agitator state senator can grasp the complex nuances of foreign relations.

The Dali Bama’s previous foregin experience prior to being elected: traveling to Indonesia and Kenya.

[quote]NorCal916 wrote:

[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:

[quote]Bismark wrote:
Thunderbolt,

How did intervention in Libya constitute “naked illegality”?[/quote]

Obama had no constitutional authority to engage in Libya militarily under the circumstances he did, even according to Obama (the Senator).[/quote]

This is why experience matters, right Bismark?

Only a street agitator state senator can grasp the complex nuances of foreign relations.

The Dali Bama’s previous foregin experience prior to being elected: traveling to Indonesia and Kenya.
[/quote]

LOL

Wouldnt it be traveling FROM Kenya?

[quote]theuofh wrote:
“CARSON UNABLE TO GRASP DYNAMICS OF MIDDLE EAST, ADVISER SAYS
Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson is struggling to understand the Middle East, one of his top national-security advisers told reporters on Tuesday. ?Nobody has been able to sit down with him and have him get one iota of intelligent information about the Middle East,? said Duane Clarridge, a former CIA officer who was involved in the creation of the agency?s Counterterrorism Center during the Reagan Administration. In last week?s Republican presidential debate, Carson suggested that the Chinese were involved militarily in Syria, remarks that were disputed by the Washington and Beijing.”

  1. Trump is an ass hat and I believe people were first impressed by his straight answers about immigration, etc. plus many people are simply sheep who fail to think on their own. Does anyone realize the reason Trump has so much fortune is not because he has all these talents in running a business but because of how he evades paying taxes. Instead of paying taxes on all of the winnings, he simply pays the fines I did not devote too much time in finding articles about this topic but the lady who does my taxes told me about Trump, this in particular. I am going to take her word for it until I find data showing her to be wrong.
  1. Carson may have very little experience in politics but where is the proof that experience makes for a better President? None of our Founding Fathers had political experience and look at the country they helped to create. Then look what experienced politicians did to our freedoms.

  2. My problem with Rubio is his problem solving solutions are very different when the boots hit the ground. Most posters know my pro-LIFE stance, so please hear me out. All these pro-LIFE laws are supposed to exist in Florida and yet Florida has one of the highest abortion states in our country. I know Carson will be better than Mark or anyone else simply because that is who I will cast my vote for in the primaries, based solely on his stance for LIFE.

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:

  1. Trump is an ass hat and I believe people were first impressed by his straight answers about immigration, etc. plus many people are simply sheep who fail to think on their own. Does anyone realize the reason Trump has so much fortune is not because he has all these talents in running a business but because of how he evades paying taxes. Instead of paying taxes on all of the winnings, he simply pays the fines I did not devote too much time in finding articles about this topic but the lady who does my taxes told me about Trump, this in particular. I am going to take her word for it until I find data showing her to be wrong.
  1. Carson may have very little experience in politics but where is the proof that experience makes for a better President? None of our Founding Fathers had political experience and look at the country they helped to create. Then look what experienced politicians did to our freedoms.

  2. My problem with Rubio is his problem solving solutions are very different when the boots hit the ground. Most posters know my pro-LIFE stance, so please hear me out. All these pro-LIFE laws are supposed to exist in Florida and yet Florida has one of the highest abortion states in our country. I know Carson will be better than Mark or anyone else simply because that is who I will cast my vote for in the primaries, based solely on his stance for LIFE.[/quote]

Your second paragraph is patently false. The Framers of the Constitution had extensive political experience. By 1787, four-fifths (41 individuals), were or had been members of the Continental Congress. Nearly all of the 55 delegates had experience in colonial and state government, and the majority had held county and local offices.

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:

  1. Trump is an ass hat and I believe people were first impressed by his straight answers about immigration, etc. plus many people are simply sheep who fail to think on their own. Does anyone realize the reason Trump has so much fortune is not because he has all these talents in running a business but because of how he evades paying taxes. Instead of paying taxes on all of the winnings, he simply pays the fines I did not devote too much time in finding articles about this topic but the lady who does my taxes told me about Trump, this in particular. I am going to take her word for it until I find data showing her to be wrong.[/quote]

I sure don’t want Trump to get the nomination, But in all fairness to the man he did build a multi billion dollar financial empire. And he does pay his taxes.

Yeah, since when does experience help anyone to do anything. The next time your car breaks down have a good friend who has no experience with automobile engines take a shot at fixing it. Look, I know you are fed up with the status quo we all are. But Carson should not be the republican nominee. He has not the talent or the temperament. You can’t walk around looking like your high and lead people. I’m not saying he smokes pot so don’t get me wrong. I’m saying that his style is exactly what we don’t need to put up against Hillary.

Then in short you are saying that you want to elect Hillary Clinton because Carson will have one heck of a tough time beating her. Sure it’s possible but it will not be easy.

I too am pro life have read your posts for many years and have agreed with every word. So let’s elect nominate a republican who can actually beat Hillary. Then that republican will be able to appoint pro life Supreme Court judges (and other judgeships) and maybe we can get Roe Vs. Wade overturned.

Think long-term my friend.

Rubio can win and he is not responsible for the abortion rate in Florida.

In what appears to be a first for a serious presidential contender, Hillary Clinton?s campaign is going after five comedians who made fun of the former Secretary of State in standup skits at a popular Hollywood comedy club.

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
In what appears to be a first for a serious presidential contender, Hillary Clinton?s campaign is going after five comedians who made fun of the former Secretary of State in standup skits at a popular Hollywood comedy club.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/11/clinton-goes-after-laugh-factory-comedians-for-making-fun-of-her/[/quote]

Is that shocking?

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/281081-clinton-fans-banning-words-call-coded-sexism/

[quote]Aggv wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
In what appears to be a first for a serious presidential contender, Hillary Clinton?s campaign is going after five comedians who made fun of the former Secretary of State in standup skits at a popular Hollywood comedy club.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2015/11/clinton-goes-after-laugh-factory-comedians-for-making-fun-of-her/[/quote]

Is that shocking?

http://www.ijreview.com/2015/03/281081-clinton-fans-banning-words-call-coded-sexism/
[/quote]

It is but not when it’s done by Hillary. I have been to this comedy club and pretty much everyone is fair game.

I remember the way Sarah Palin was the butt of every joke in 2008 and took it like a champ.

I guess Hillary’s skin is thinner than originally thought, just hard to see that when she dresses like a linebacker playing for TJ Maxx.

Cant make fun of obama either, because racism.

Meanwhile, this show gets 2 seasons…
Lil - Wikipedia’_Bush

She is going to have to put up with it as there is no legal recourse available to make the Laugh Factory, or the five comedians stop doing jokes about her. She and her image are in the public domain. You can literally say just about anything you want about a celebrity. People can laugh, think your an ass or just sit there matters not.

One of her campaign staff calling and complaining was useless. When you do things like that you simply give those you are trying to silence more air time. I watched the video and chuckled at a few of the jokes. If I had not read that she was complaining I would not have known about it.

Those who didn’t know she was this sensitive don’t know her. I am friends with one of her former aids from the 90’s, when she was First Lady. She told me what a very miserable person Hillary is when the camera is off and how difficult she is to please. Never says “thank you”, never gives anyone credit for a good job constantly swears at them. But then this should come as no surprise to anyone.

I will stick with my months old prediction, she’s not winning the Presidency.

Simply asking questions Bismark so please do NOT read into them. Before the Continental Congress what did they do? How many years were they in Continental Congress, total? How many of them had other jobs other than what they did politically?

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:

  1. Trump is an ass hat and I believe people were first impressed by his straight answers about immigration, etc. plus many people are simply sheep who fail to think on their own. Does anyone realize the reason Trump has so much fortune is not because he has all these talents in running a business but because of how he evades paying taxes. Instead of paying taxes on all of the winnings, he simply pays the fines I did not devote too much time in finding articles about this topic but the lady who does my taxes told me about Trump, this in particular. I am going to take her word for it until I find data showing her to be wrong.
  1. Carson may have very little experience in politics but where is the proof that experience makes for a better President? None of our Founding Fathers had political experience and look at the country they helped to create. Then look what experienced politicians did to our freedoms.

  2. My problem with Rubio is his problem solving solutions are very different when the boots hit the ground. Most posters know my pro-LIFE stance, so please hear me out. All these pro-LIFE laws are supposed to exist in Florida and yet Florida has one of the highest abortion states in our country. I know Carson will be better than Mark or anyone else simply because that is who I will cast my vote for in the primaries, based solely on his stance for LIFE.[/quote]

Your second paragraph is patently false. The Framers of the Constitution had extensive political experience. By 1787, four-fifths (41 individuals), were or had been members of the Continental Congress. Nearly all of the 55 delegates had experience in colonial and state government, and the majority had held county and local offices. [/quote]

ZEB, first off where is the source backing your stance. I will have to call the lady who told me about her claim and ask if I can have a source. If I fail though, PLEASE send me pm reminding me ; ) Three TBI?s and an anoxic head injury has done crazy crap to my brain jajajaja!

[quote]ZEB wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:

  1. Trump is an ass hat and I believe people were first impressed by his straight answers about immigration, etc. plus many people are simply sheep who fail to think on their own. Does anyone realize the reason Trump has so much fortune is not because he has all these talents in running a business but because of how he evades paying taxes. Instead of paying taxes on all of the winnings, he simply pays the fines I did not devote too much time in finding articles about this topic but the lady who does my taxes told me about Trump, this in particular. I am going to take her word for it until I find data showing her to be wrong.[/quote]

I sure don’t want Trump to get the nomination, But in all fairness to the man he did build a multi billion dollar financial empire. And he does pay his taxes.

So now the politics that run our country are in parallel with the logic of a combustion engine? Plus if I were ever on stage doing the debates, I would have an embolism because of how literally stupid some people can be. Maybe he us tuning them all out, that is just my guess.

Yeah, since when does experience help anyone to do anything. The next time your car breaks down have a good friend who has no experience with automobile engines take a shot at fixing it. Look, I know you are fed up with the status quo we all are. But Carson should not be the republican nominee. He has not the talent or the temperament. You can’t walk around looking like your high and lead people. I’m not saying he smokes pot so don’t get me wrong. I’m saying that his style is exactly what we don’t need to put up against Hillary.

Never said I wanted Hilary. I try really hard to never place words in people?s mouths, so please give me some of that respect [felt good to pull my underwear out of my butt].

Of the nominees in the current field, how many have laid specific plans out and their ideas for shutting down the abortion conglomerate also known as Partial Personhood? Carson will post our military troops in front of their doors.

My comment about Rubio and the abortion rate in Florida was specifically for this reason. Passing laws means very little until they are literally enforced. Rubio wrote laws protecting the unborn yet why are the death rates of babies exceedingly still so high, particularly in Florida?

I may live longer than you ZEB ; ) By the way, thank you for the kind words but please be real [I am not saying you are / not!!] I just tire of people and fake modesty while trying to be friendly all the while they stab your back. That was just a quick venting :o ] In addition I am going to vote based on my morals and not on what may or may not happen. Carson will actively STOP the killing of defenseless babies.

Then in short you are saying that you want to elect Hillary Clinton because Carson will have one heck of a tough time beating her. Sure it’s possible but it will not be easy.

I too am pro life have read your posts for many years and have agreed with every word. So let’s elect nominate a republican who can actually beat Hillary. Then that republican will be able to appoint pro life Supreme Court judges (and other judgeships) and maybe we can get Roe Vs. Wade overturned.

Think long-term my friend.

Rubio can win and he is not responsible for the abortion rate in Florida. [/quote]

You made an erroneous argument based on the concept of experience, or lack thereof. You stated that the Framers had no political experience, which is completely false. The Framers had extensive political experience. I’m not going to answer questions you could easily find via google or a high school education.

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
Simply asking questions Bismark so please do NOT read into them. Before the Continental Congress what did they do? How many years were they in Continental Congress, total? How many of them had other jobs other than what they did politically?

[quote]Bismark wrote:

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:

  1. Trump is an ass hat and I believe people were first impressed by his straight answers about immigration, etc. plus many people are simply sheep who fail to think on their own. Does anyone realize the reason Trump has so much fortune is not because he has all these talents in running a business but because of how he evades paying taxes. Instead of paying taxes on all of the winnings, he simply pays the fines I did not devote too much time in finding articles about this topic but the lady who does my taxes told me about Trump, this in particular. I am going to take her word for it until I find data showing her to be wrong.
  1. Carson may have very little experience in politics but where is the proof that experience makes for a better President? None of our Founding Fathers had political experience and look at the country they helped to create. Then look what experienced politicians did to our freedoms.

  2. My problem with Rubio is his problem solving solutions are very different when the boots hit the ground. Most posters know my pro-LIFE stance, so please hear me out. All these pro-LIFE laws are supposed to exist in Florida and yet Florida has one of the highest abortion states in our country. I know Carson will be better than Mark or anyone else simply because that is who I will cast my vote for in the primaries, based solely on his stance for LIFE.[/quote]

Your second paragraph is patently false. The Framers of the Constitution had extensive political experience. By 1787, four-fifths (41 individuals), were or had been members of the Continental Congress. Nearly all of the 55 delegates had experience in colonial and state government, and the majority had held county and local offices. [/quote][/quote]

[quote]kneedragger79 wrote:
ZEB, first off where is the source backing your stance. I will have to call the lady who told me about her claim and ask if I can have a source. If I fail though, PLEASE send me pm reminding me ; ) Three TBI?s and an anoxic head injury has done crazy crap to my brain jajajaja!
[/quote]

I’ve read many of your posts and head injury or not you’ve made more sense than just about anyone else around these parts.