Someone who genuinely believes that it?s for someone else?s own good is capable of far worse evil.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Someone who genuinely believes that it?s for someone else?s own good is capable of far worse evil.[/quote]
Yeah, this is what I mean. Hilary is an evil narcissist, otherwise known as a typical politician. Sanders appears to actually embrace his utter lack of even basic economic understanding and thinks enslaving the population to a massive government is good for themā¦
Itās frightening.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Heās not the worst candidate for the Dems though. [/quote]
We rarely disagree. He is one of those times.
I couldnāt think of a Dem currently running or rumored to run that isnāt better, by light years.
admitted socialistā¦[/quote]
I personally think Hillary is worse. Sheās just as much of a socialist (she just lies about it where as he embraces it), is an elitist, and frankly a criminal. Elizabeth Warren is even worse.
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Elizabeth Warren is less of a socialist and more of a fascist ā¦ I remember when she was running against Scotty B for the senate seat and hearing her speak and thinking how fucking bat shit crazy insane she was and how fucking tyrannical her approach is ā¦ but her heritage speaks for itself
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Heās not the worst candidate for the Dems though. [/quote]
We rarely disagree. He is one of those times.
I couldnāt think of a Dem currently running or rumored to run that isnāt better, by light years.
admitted socialistā¦[/quote]
I personally think Hillary is worse. Sheās just as much of a socialist (she just lies about it where as he embraces it), is an elitist, and frankly a criminal. Elizabeth Warren is even worse.
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Elizabeth Warren is less of a socialist and more of a fascist ā¦ I remember when she was running against Scotty B for the senate seat and hearing her speak and thinking how fucking bat shit crazy insane she was and how fucking tyrannical her approach is ā¦ but her heritage speaks for itself[/quote]
Our Senators are really the worst in the nation.
No blood on my hands though, even though I had to vote fore Scott āI stabbed gun owners in the backā Brown stain.
I know every one getās a Star Spangled Erection every time some one mentions American Capitalism . They envision Ayn Rand version of a Utopian Society . But what we have is the same exact thing they fled . You talk to this board or our Government and all that is ever done is half a fix and that half always goes to the top . I am not talking 1%
I think it was a brilliant stroke of who ever coined the term 1% , granted they are wealthy but the true wealth would start with a few hundred people . http://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/gallery These are the people and Corporations that exploit all the social spending roads, bridges, educated work force and some pay no or little taxes and some even get tax subsidies and cost the US tax payers money to support their work force .
We waste trillions of dollars with a bloated military on things we will never need , we dominate the world conventionally we spend more than the next 10 counties combined and 8 out of the 10 are our allies
The war on drugs , what a fucking joke , truly a sad joke .
Our wars are non sustainable , so is the war on drugs and if you want to live in a 3rd world country we can keep cannibalizing America.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Heās not the worst candidate for the Dems though. [/quote]
We rarely disagree. He is one of those times.
I couldnāt think of a Dem currently running or rumored to run that isnāt better, by light years.
admitted socialistā¦[/quote]
I personally think Hillary is worse. Sheās just as much of a socialist (she just lies about it where as he embraces it), is an elitist, and frankly a criminal. Elizabeth Warren is even worse.
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Elizabeth Warren is less of a socialist and more of a fascist ā¦ I remember when she was running against Scotty B for the senate seat and hearing her speak and thinking how fucking bat shit crazy insane she was and how fucking tyrannical her approach is ā¦ but her heritage speaks for itself[/quote]
Our Senators are really the worst in the nation.
No blood on my hands though, even though I had to vote fore Scott āI stabbed gun owners in the backā Brown stain. [/quote]
Theyāve been terrible for long before you and I were born ā¦ most of our elected officials are though ā¦ Shit, I come from the district that elected fuckinā Barney Frank and there wasnāt shit I could do about that entrenched crook
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I know every one getās a Star Spangled Erection every time some one mentions American Capitalism . They envision Ayn Rand version of a Utopian Society . But what we have is the same exact thing they fled . You talk to this board or our Government and all that is ever done is half a fix and that half always goes to the top . I am not talking 1%
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Who is ātheyā? The whole point of Galtās Gulch was to illustrate the industrious man and what CHOOSING to work together can accomplish. It was highly romanticized and corny, which many acknowledge, but the sentiment remains.
However, to say that āthe half always goes to the topā is so damn myopic itās staring you in the damn face and you donāt even see it. Itās the forest for the trees idiom. Itās ridiculously absurd for someone to bad mouth capitalism on a fucking computer and then to have the irony go unnoticed, it truly is a testament to the education system.
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I think it was a brilliant stroke of who ever coined the term 1% , granted they are wealthy but the true wealth would start with a few hundred people . http://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/gallery These are the people and Corporations that exploit all the social spending roads, bridges, educated work force and some pay no or little taxes and some even get tax subsidies and cost the US tax payers money to support their work force .[/quote]
I agree itās a little absurd, when ignoring everything else, how fucking wealthy these few hundred are. In this country, however, those few hundred, most of them worked their ass off to get what they have, came up with billion dollar ideas, some created out of fucking thin air, developed it and marketed it brilliantly. And most of those products have enhanced communication and standard of living FOR BILLIONS of people across the GLOBE far beyond what could have been imagined not 20 years ago. So, yea, theyāre super rich, more wealthy than most of the countries in the world. Who. The Hell. Cares.
I always read how the amount they donate to charities ALSO rivals that of GDPs of other countries, but thatās not publicized as much as how much theyāre worth because it doesnāt fit into this craptastic class warfare narrative.
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We waste trillions of dollars with a bloated military on things we will never need , we dominate the world conventionally we spend more than the next 10 counties combined and 8 out of the 10 are our allies[/quote]
The US Defense budget as of 2013 was $581 billion ā¦ half a trillion ā¦ not trillions. Also, one reason our defense budget is so high compared to other nations is most nations rely on our might as a deterrent for aggressor nations. Another reason is the EU. Those countries seriously downgraded the chance of foreign aggression when they become so economically entwined. Youāre argument is very intellectually dishonest and misleading.
I definitely agree with you on this. Our āwar on drugsā does nothing for the citizens of this country but lock them and feed our bloated judicial system; not to mention funds foreign drug cartels with the demand created on the blackmarket for their products. Most of these policies seem to only be in place as a justification to erode the 4th amendment. Drug use and abuse, in my view, should not be a criminal issue but a public health issue.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I know every one getās a Star Spangled Erection every time some one mentions American Capitalism . They envision Ayn Rand version of a Utopian Society . But what we have is the same exact thing they fled . You talk to this board or our Government and all that is ever done is half a fix and that half always goes to the top . I am not talking 1%
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Who is ātheyā? The whole point of Galtās Gulch was to illustrate the industrious man and what CHOOSING to work together can accomplish. It was highly romanticized and corny, which many acknowledge, but the sentiment remains.
However, to say that āthe half always goes to the topā is so damn myopic itās staring you in the damn face and you donāt even see it. Itās the forest for the trees idiom. Itās ridiculously absurd for someone to bad mouth capitalism on a fucking computer and then to have the irony go unnoticed, it truly is a testament to the education system.
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They are the people with the star spangled erections ,
John Galtās reason for abandoning society at large was because of Crony Capitalism , for lack of better term .
We dis agree , you say myopic , I say spot on. That is why wages have skyrocketed for the top and flat lined for the middle
[quote]polo77j wrote:
The US Defense budget as of 2013 was $581 billion ā¦ half a trillion ā¦ not trillions. Also, one reason our defense budget is so high compared to other nations is most nations rely on our might as a deterrent for aggressor nations. Another reason is the EU. Those countries seriously downgraded the chance of foreign aggression when they become so economically entwined. Youāre argument is very intellectually dishonest and misleading.
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There are so many ways they account for military spending it would almost take a full time accountant to account for it all , of that 3.07 billion we give Israel , how much you think goes to our Military Complex ?
Again we dis agree but I would contend the dishonesty on your part . The military is FUCKING Huge we are on every continent , probably in every country
It says America is involved in a 134 wars right now ,
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
It says America is involved in a 134 wars right now ,
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No, it doesnāt, but youāre wrong 99.99% of the time, why should this time be any different?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
The US Defense budget as of 2013 was $581 billion ā¦ half a trillion ā¦ not trillions. Also, one reason our defense budget is so high compared to other nations is most nations rely on our might as a deterrent for aggressor nations. Another reason is the EU. Those countries seriously downgraded the chance of foreign aggression when they become so economically entwined. Youāre argument is very intellectually dishonest and misleading.
You get your numbers from mintpressnews.com I get mine from multiple official sources. Mine is straight data, yours is skewed to tell a bullshit narrative. Youāre right, we disagree on a few things. One of them appears to be reality.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/budget/fy2015/assets/28_1.pdf
Pitt, I also find intellectually dishonest that you try to change the argument from what you were initially were arguing (trillions vs 1/2 trillion) to include things like foreign policy and aid. Whatever you need to do to skew your argument. Itās crap man. Have some damn integrity instead of posting some asinine article that proves fuck all but only changes the argument to include other things? Cāmon man, youāre a smart person, donāt pull this sloppy bullshit. At least have some damn integrity.
Then you go on and say stupid shit like weāre on every continent probably in every country? Cāmon man, you know thatās hyperbolic bullshit and not even relevant to the original conversation. I swear, all liberals have ADD when it becomes convenientā¦
Lol
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
The US Defense budget as of 2013 was $581 billion ā¦ half a trillion ā¦ not trillions. Also, one reason our defense budget is so high compared to other nations is most nations rely on our might as a deterrent for aggressor nations. Another reason is the EU. Those countries seriously downgraded the chance of foreign aggression when they become so economically entwined. Youāre argument is very intellectually dishonest and misleading.
American hard power underpins the liberal international political and economic systems. For example, the US Navy keeps every major sea lane open for free commerce. US aid to Israel requires that 74% of their aid package must be spend on US military equipment. Hardly a bad investment in a strategic ally. The military industrial complex also benefits from what is effectively a subsidy. The US is a superpower with global interests, hence the need for global power projection capabilities. Because of extended deterrence, forward deployed US forces also act as pacifiers in the regions they are deployed to.
[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Lol[/quote]
Lol. Sanders looks like hammered shit. During college, he was a member of the Young Peopleās Socialist League, the youth affiliate of the Socialist Party of America. That we have a candidate endorsing an empirically invalid economic model is troubling to say the least.
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I know every one getās a Star Spangled Erection every time some one mentions American Capitalism . They envision Ayn Rand version of a Utopian Society . But what we have is the same exact thing they fled . You talk to this board or our Government and all that is ever done is half a fix and that half always goes to the top . I am not talking 1%
I think it was a brilliant stroke of who ever coined the term 1% , granted they are wealthy but the true wealth would start with a few hundred people . http://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/gallery These are the people and Corporations that exploit all the social spending roads, bridges, educated work force and some pay no or little taxes and some even get tax subsidies and cost the US tax payers money to support their work force .
We waste trillions of dollars with a bloated military on things we will never need , we dominate the world conventionally we spend more than the next 10 counties combined and 8 out of the 10 are our allies
The war on drugs , what a fucking joke , truly a sad joke .
Our wars are non sustainable , so is the war on drugs and if you want to live in a 3rd world country we can keep cannibalizing America.
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I keep forgetting where I am , to present the Iraq war has cost 1.7 trillion dollars and Afghanistan War 1 trillion . If I am not mistaken that makes more than 1 trillion dollars wasted
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I know every one getās a Star Spangled Erection every time some one mentions American Capitalism . They envision Ayn Rand version of a Utopian Society . But what we have is the same exact thing they fled . You talk to this board or our Government and all that is ever done is half a fix and that half always goes to the top . I am not talking 1%
I think it was a brilliant stroke of who ever coined the term 1% , granted they are wealthy but the true wealth would start with a few hundred people . http://www.forbes.com/forbes-400/gallery These are the people and Corporations that exploit all the social spending roads, bridges, educated work force and some pay no or little taxes and some even get tax subsidies and cost the US tax payers money to support their work force .
We waste trillions of dollars with a bloated military on things we will never need , we dominate the world conventionally we spend more than the next 10 counties combined and 8 out of the 10 are our allies
The war on drugs , what a fucking joke , truly a sad joke .
Our wars are non sustainable , so is the war on drugs and if you want to live in a 3rd world country we can keep cannibalizing America.
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I keep forgetting where I am , to present the Iraq war has cost 1.7 trillion dollars and Afghanistan War 1 trillion . If I am not mistaken that makes more than 1 trillion dollars wasted
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The total debt is 18 Trillion, so where did the other 15.5 Trillion come from ?
[quote]Bismark wrote:
US aid to Israel requires that 74% of their aid package must be spend on US military equipment. . [/quote]
So basically we are further subsidizing the Military complex.
I know this board and Republicans get their panties in a knot over tax dollars going to fund abortions on moral grounds .
The left and I object to my tax dollars to go to fund state sponsored terrorism
Ex US Pres. Jimmy Carter Speaks Against israel Terrorism in Gaza - YouTube there are more than Carter that think Israel is committing war crimes in Gaza and the West Bank. America is just a s culpable
An aborted fetus is not threatening to behead you Pitt.