a mate of mine had a bit of a clearance sale, and so I’ve managed to pick up a ton of var pretty cheap.
What’s the highest dose you would run? If there’s a point of diminishing returns in terms of gains then I don’t want to stress my liver more than needs be.
I seem to remember Bushido Bad Boy saying something about running it at 120mg a day for as long as you can afford, any opinions on that?
cheers
I went up to 120mg/day, the gains were beyond fantastic, I was running it with Test E and Suspension pre-game (this was during peak Rugby/Hockey season).
It was just a bit too much though, the calf/lower back/forearm pumps were just plain painful. I would also get headaches quite commonly, in addition to feeling like I was going to pass out after a heavy set.
Arm workouts resulted in a 2+ inch circumference gain.
It was nuts.
I think try 60-80mg/d spaced out first, and go up from there if you dare. 60-80mg will result in impressive gains if stacked with Test.
Theres no point in taking more peri-workout because the pumps will be nuts at 80+mg a day no matter when you dose.
Cheers
-PTD
how Dave? How can you tell me the gains were beyond fantastic at 120mg/daily and not expect me to do just that?
I ran it before at 75mg/daily and didn’t notice too much in the way of uncomfortable pumps, so I reckon I can add another cheeky 50mg. If it gets too much I can scale it down 25mg at a time (I have 50mg tabs).
so current cycle is
500mg/week test prop
350mg/week NPP
125mg/day var
yeeha!
oh yeah and I’m splitting the dose 75mg pre workout (I train late morning/early afternoon) and another 50mg in the evening
^ smexy cycle. Post a log.
I mean its just Var, if you get sides they will be gone overnight.
Also I had RBC accumulation problems at the same time, this was at the end tail end of a 12 weeker, so I can’t blame the Var exclusively, but just thought I’d mention it. Donate blood and profit. I even got a nice compliment on the ‘bright hue’ of my blood. 
-PTD
I’m just starting my 3rd week (of 9), and have only just added the var yesterday so while I’m too lazy to log I’ll report back how I get on with the mega-dosed var.
Aye I heard that NPP could be quite bad for RBC issues and was contemplating on donating blood at the end of the cycle, now I think I definitely will.
Is once at the end of the cycle enough or should I go more often than that? It’s not something I know anything about
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
how Dave? How can you tell me the gains were beyond fantastic at 120mg/daily and not expect me to do just that?
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Second that!!
[quote]BUDs wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
how Dave? How can you tell me the gains were beyond fantastic at 120mg/daily and not expect me to do just that?
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Second that!![/quote]
It hurts!!
You’ll see what I mean.
For me, that run, along with 150mg/d Anadrol was the definition of the gains vs. sides tradeoff. Atleast the Anadrol was cheap!
-PTD
For a 2" gain in arm size I don’t care if my god damn dick falls off!
well, maybe that’s going a bit far… Pain shmain though I’ll be too busy flexing to notice
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
For a 2" gain in arm size I don’t care if my god damn dick falls off!
well, maybe that’s going a bit far… Pain shmain though I’ll be too busy flexing to notice
[/quote]
That 2 inches was from the retarded arm pumps, the LBM gains were much more modest.
i know I know, but I train before I go to class and my course is chock full of hot girls so an extra couple of inches on the guns in the afternoons certainly won’t do any harm 
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
For a 2" gain in arm size I don’t care if my god damn dick falls off!
well, maybe that’s going a bit far… Pain shmain though I’ll be too busy flexing to notice
[/quote]
Gain 2" in your arms and lose 2" between your legs. Seems like you got a pretty fair trade-off there sir.
[quote]PAINTRAINDave wrote:
[quote]BUDs wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
how Dave? How can you tell me the gains were beyond fantastic at 120mg/daily and not expect me to do just that?
![/quote]
Second that!![/quote]
It hurts!!
You’ll see what I mean.
For me, that run, along with 150mg/d Anadrol was the definition of the gains vs. sides tradeoff. Atleast the Anadrol was cheap!
-PTD
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I get a pretty decent pump from 50mg dbol Pre workout almost painful at times I can’t imagine what a 2" increase feels like!
[quote]iammikewatts wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
For a 2" gain in arm size I don’t care if my god damn dick falls off!
well, maybe that’s going a bit far… Pain shmain though I’ll be too busy flexing to notice
[/quote]
Gain 2" in your arms and lose 2" between your legs. Seems like you got a pretty fair trade-off there sir.[/quote]
ha! Oh very good mother fucker
just a wee update on this: holy shit 125mg of var pre-workout gives you one hell of a pump! It’s fucking brilliant. Leave the gym looking like a professional bodybuilder
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
just a wee update on this: holy shit 125mg of var pre-workout gives you one hell of a pump! It’s fucking brilliant. Leave the gym looking like a professional bodybuilder[/quote]
I’ve been noticing this too on only 50mg. I thought the Anavar I got might be fake because it wasn’t the brand I ordered and it came in some ridiculous bullshit bottles with a different amount of pills (yes pills) in each one. Found out pretty quickly it was legit. Crazy leg pumps. Waiting another week before I start dosing it at 100mg.
The pumps are a mixed bag. On the one hand, having every muscle hard as a rock is cool, but I had my first ever back pump today after front squatting and that wasn’t very pleasant at all.
^^ lol… it gets worse too. You’ll see.
I played Rugby on 80mg, was terrible, I swear to god my calves were going to explode every scrum.
Space it out, you’ll still get mad back pumps, and the gains will still be there!
-PTD
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
The pumps are a mixed bag. On the one hand, having every muscle hard as a rock is cool, but I had my first ever back pump today after front squatting and that wasn’t very pleasant at all.[/quote]
Back pumps from dbol are much worse. Crippling even. I had many leg/lower back days that were ended short due to excessive and unbearable back pumps.
[quote]Toby Queef wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
The pumps are a mixed bag. On the one hand, having every muscle hard as a rock is cool, but I had my first ever back pump today after front squatting and that wasn’t very pleasant at all.[/quote]
Back pumps from dbol are much worse. Crippling even. I had many leg/lower back days that were ended short due to excessive and unbearable back pumps.[/quote]
Never tried var, but I’ve cut a few workouts short because of dbol