A Waste of AAS?

Pharma / TRT
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I’d really appreciate some input on this gents.

I won’t bore you all with the details, but basically, I have two very rare opportunities to make training #1 in the near future.

The first time period is 3 weeks, and the second is 5 weeks. They are separated by 7 weeks. I CANNOT cycle during the 7 week break.

Now, I will definitely be running a cycle for the 5 week period, but I am unsure of the 3 weeker.

I seems a waste of such a good training opportunity to NOT run a mini-cycle.

As we all know, “shorties” are very heavy on the orals, I only have so many and I’m not sure if a 3 weeker is the best use of them.

What would you do?

Thanks

Dave

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I’d also like to add that when this time is up I won’t be able to cycle for about 9 months!

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If you need to cut, then would a 3 week Anavar cycle do some good? Or a D-bol and prop cycle? Both pretty basic, I’m just throwin ideas out there.

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is that a guy and a girl or two girls

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Dave what are you planning on running for the shorty and what are your goals? I assume since you want to dedicate the 3 weeks solely to training that it would be a very short mass cycle.

If it were me and I wanted to make lean gains in the shortest time possible, I would run a very high dose (1 to 1.2 grams a week) of a short estered test (ace, if I could get ahold of it) along with tren ace at 75mgs a day and I’d probably use anadrol for an oral, though I have no experience with anadrol. Perhaps you did not want to mess with all of the injections or different drugs, though. As for an all oral cycle, there are a couple of good threads about this very idea floating around here somewhere.

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[quote]Thatguy1083 wrote:
If you need to cut, then would a 3 week Anavar cycle do some good? Or a D-bol and prop cycle? Both pretty basic, I’m just throwin ideas out there.[/quote]

I don’t think a steroid as mild as Anavar would be proper for this kind of cycle.

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I know I’ve never had good luck holding gains off a single shorty, and it seems like the people who like shorties prefer to run several back to back. So my personal vote would be to save your gear.

BTW, is that you in your av? Looks bitchin’.

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[quote]Whoa! wrote:

BTW, is that you in your av? Looks bitchin’.[/quote]

X2

Good stuff there, Dave.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
test tren anadrol[/quote]

Jeebus; in for a dime, in for a dollar, eh? I can’t imagine the recovery experience from that, but it’d sure get you jacked quick.

P.S. Why Anadrol as opposed to Dbol?

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It was actually something that was being thrown around in the group cycle thread a while back. Like I said, I have no experience with anadrol, but if it were me, this is probably what I would try.

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[quote]Whoa! wrote:
Cortes wrote:
test tren anadrol

Jeebus; in for a dime, in for a dollar, eh? I can’t imagine the recovery experience from that, but it’d sure get you jacked quick.

P.S. Why Anadrol as opposed to Dbol?[/quote]

I actually was already formulating my next mass cycle next August to be Test, Tren, Anadrol.

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Dave, could you be a little bit more specific to your goals at least during these two times?

Kind of hard to recommend if we don’t know whether you’re after cutting or bulking in the two scenarios, or if it’s just lean/dry mass etc.

On the compounds recommended so far, Cortes has a winner there for sure. Anavar solo? Don’t think that is what you’re after at all, lol.

I enjoyed the tpp/masteron trip for my injec shorty, and it was halved at least in terms of initial doseage.
I agree with what Cortes said in terms of running at least a gram though of whatever per week minimum.

How bout a little more info buddy? You’re sure to get better advice then.

Best,

ToneBone

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Id go with something similar… maybe drol, test and NPP even (i am really looking at the nandro’s again…).

But yeah, i dont think it is a waste. 100mg/day of drol, 700-1000mg of Test prop/ace and 350-400mg NPP or TrenAce… lovely!
Throw in Winny at 50mg a day too for the Deca/Tren and Drol…?

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Thanks for all the responses everyone.

Sorry, I should have been more specific earlier, my goal is primarily strength.

I have had good experiences re: strength gains and shorties.

I suppose my question is related to that other thread going on at the moment, about long oral cycles vs short (although I’ll be injecting also).

I just don’t want to use up a huge amount of my dbol supply if it’s going to be a waste.

I plan on running something like;

100mg test prop ED (frontloading first 3 days)
50mg dbol ED
50mg winstrol ED

giving 200mg AAS per day, or 1400mg PW.

PCT will be 2-3 weeks of nolva.

Since I am only really concerned with strength, I was wondering about dropping the dbol (or taking less anyway) as winstrol I find is great for strength gains.

Anyway, I’m rambling. Do you think this is a worthy use of my beloved dbol supply?

Thanks gents

Dave

PS. yep that’s me in my avatar :wink:

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I have debated in the past running a short 3 week cycle to put on as much mass as possible in three weeks. Along with a proper PCT I figured a descent percent of the mass and strength could be maintained.

I was planning on running prop/tren ace/drol/winstrol. I only added the winstrol for the antiprogesterone capabilities to accompany the drol. If you stick with dbol I don’t think you would need it, just an AI. With a high dose of tren I would use caber for the duration to deal with prolactin increase. Tren IMO is much worse at raising prolactin than deca/NPP. But again that might just be me.

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Thanks for all the responses everyone.

Sorry, I should have been more specific earlier, my goal is primarily strength.

I have had good experiences re: strength gains and shorties.

I suppose my question is related to that other thread going on at the moment, about long oral cycles vs short (although I’ll be injecting also).

I just don’t want to use up a huge amount of my dbol supply if it’s going to be a waste.

I plan on running something like;

100mg test prop ED (frontloading first 3 days)
50mg dbol ED
50mg winstrol ED

giving 200mg AAS per day, or 1400mg PW.

PCT will be 2-3 weeks of nolva.

Since I am only really concerned with strength, I was wondering about dropping the dbol (or taking less anyway) as winstrol I find is great for strength gains.

Anyway, I’m rambling. Do you think this is a worthy use of my beloved dbol supply?

Thanks gents

Dave

PS. yep that’s me in my avatar :wink:
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Looks like a really good plan to me Dave. Why wouldn’t it be “worthy”? You should get a nice quality boost out of it, and I found shorty’s hold the gains pretty nicely so long as you keep up a decent level of intensity in your workouts post cycle, and keep your eating/rest all in order, which you seem like you would do.

I think it will do really nicely for you imo. Like 2the said, you should be right as rain with some adex or other AI during, and the nolva should be fine. It was for my runs.

1400mg/week of those compounds should produce a real “whallop”!

Good luck mate. When are you going to take the plunge?
Will you keep a log on things here?

ToneBone

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Yeah, an update to your progress/results would be very nice.

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[quote]2thepain wrote:
Yeah, an update to your progress/results would be very nice.[/quote]

X3 here

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Test suspension would be good for the 3 weeks. Near immediate results and after 3 weeks of every day or twice a day shots you’ll be ready to call it quits anyway.

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:

Looks like a really good plan to me Dave. Why wouldn’t it be “worthy”? You should get a nice quality boost out of it, and I found shorty’s hold the gains pretty nicely so long as you keep up a decent level of intensity in your workouts post cycle, and keep your eating/rest all in order, which you seem like you would do.

I think it will do really nicely for you imo. Like 2the said, you should be right as rain with some adex or other AI during, and the nolva should be fine. It was for my runs.

1400mg/week of those compounds should produce a real “whallop”!

Good luck mate. When are you going to take the plunge?
Will you keep a log on things here?

ToneBone

2thepain wrote:
Yeah, an update to your progress/results would be very nice.

Cortes wrote:
X3 here
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Thanks for the advice guys.

I am now considering running anadrol/winstrol instead of dbol - as I loved the strength gains from drol/win.

Now as for dosage, I was thinking;

test prop 100mg ED (frontload 1st 3 days)
anadrol 50mg ED
winstrol 50mg ED

letro 0.5mg EOD throughout (tapered during PCT)
Nolva 40, 20, 10 PCT

I could double the anadrol dose - but last time I ran 100mg ED I felt like crap (it was only 3 weeks).

There’s that dbol + drol thread knocking around somewhere now - made me think I might chuck in 20/30mg dbol, but I’m not sure there would be much benefit. Depends if you guys are interested really…

I will of course be combining this with my grapefruit experiment…

I won’t have access to a comp mon-fri, but I’ll give full reports at the weekends :wink: