High School is Useless

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol, you’re pretty fucking hung up on that pics thing dude. A broken record is what you are. Get over it already.[/quote]

well are you known for anything else? if it wasn’t for those pictures, you’d be anonymous - just like back in high school :)[/quote]

lol that’s right, posting pictures on T-Nation is my single accomplishment in life :frowning: I’m so worthless without them. They must be some pretty good pictures with my big head.

[quote]clip11 wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
I dropped out at 16 and went on to get a math degree without ever getting my high school diploma. It’s not necessary IMO but a lot of people I know say they couldn’t have gotten through their first year at college without it. I don’t necessarily agree but we all have different needs. YMMV. I had to study a bit harder in first year though to pick up what I missed. [/quote]

I think the academic part is only half of why it’s so important. Developing as a person is also a huge part of high-school. Interacting with others, performing under pressure, working within time restraints, and working on subjects that you might not love among other things, are extremely important to YOUR development.

Developing interpersonal skills and the ability to understand, interact, and work with other people is also extremely important.

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I agree that those things are important but I’m not convinced high school is the place to gain them. It’s a contrived, controlled setting that doesn’t transfer well into the real world IMO. Not that I can say too much since I didn’t complete it, but high school social dynamics are not at all like real world social dynamics. For example, being popular in the real world doesn’t actually buy you anything if you’re incompetent and if you lack social skills getting stuffed into a locker is not going to improve them IMO.[/quote]

The above is completely untrue.

“Being popular” as you put it, means almost everything in Corporate America. I have seen it over a 20 year span in real life. The promotions rarely go to the best qualified or best performer - they go to those that are well-liked, regarded or connected within a company or network. That IS how the “real world operates”. “Being popular” is a skill. In adulthood, that skill may differ from what makes a kid in high school popular, but the basic social elements are still there. You can be a star athlete, but an asshole, and not be popular at all in high school. The social dynamic is still there and it’s an important one unless you’re an island. No one effectively networks without being is some shape or form, “popular” or well regarded. The best opportunities are not those that you blindly apply for or stumble upon, but those that you have an inside track for because of “who you know”. I’m assuming you have in your career, whatever that is, learned to work around what you dismiss above, but to correlate whatever relative success you enjoy to the point that you dismiss the obvious advantages of being well-liked and regarded in business is just erroneous. And I’m guessing you weren’t popular in high school? Is that correct?[/quote]

Where can I get a job being popular? In other words, where can I go and have my job description say “be popular” and get a check for it? If it’s so important, why dont high schools have classes on how to be popular. I dont have to go to high school to have social skills, in fact, that has nothing to do with the price of tea in china.

Someone can have a magnetic personality w/o ever having went to school at all![/quote]

You’re retarded if you think it’s that black and white. Hell, you even said it yourself with “my uncle can get me a job”, you think it’s any different once you’re in the position? Knowing people gets you in the job, having friends above you gets you promoted. It’s simple. I had a job a few years back where a new guy came in to replace another manager who transferred. The guy came from a parts department at a car dealership to manage a warehouse. I’d been there 6 months at the bottom of the line, and knew more about operations then all but 1 or 2 guys. The new manager fucked up something at 2a.m., I called him out on being incompetent. Guess who got fired? It sure wasn’t him.

You sit here and bitch that high school was a waste of time and all, but what did you do that was productive while you were there? Did you get an ASE certification, MSCE cert? Anything? Hell, in a few states you don’t even need to go to law school to take the bar exam.

Wait, you guys are taking clip seriously? I thought he was HH…?

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol, you’re pretty fucking hung up on that pics thing dude. A broken record is what you are. Get over it already.[/quote]

For what it’s worth, I just wanted to say that long before I even knew the T-Vixen thread existed when I was still mostly a lurker just starting to get up the courage to post, you stood out to me from many of the posts of yours I read. I’m pretty sure you even contributed to a few of the threads I started, and your posts always seemed to come from a very genuine, mature, and wise perspective and I thought they were full of good insight. As far as the pics…well, if I had half the male analog of a physique like yours my pics would be all over TNation, too!

In any case, even if you took all your pics down your posts would still be valuable to me!

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol, you’re pretty fucking hung up on that pics thing dude. A broken record is what you are. Get over it already.[/quote]

well are you known for anything else? if it wasn’t for those pictures, you’d be anonymous - just like back in high school :)[/quote]

lol that’s right, posting pictures on T-Nation is my single accomplishment in life :frowning: I’m so worthless without them. They must be some pretty good pictures with my big head.[/quote]

it’s all you’re known for here. great accomplishment.

[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol, you’re pretty fucking hung up on that pics thing dude. A broken record is what you are. Get over it already.[/quote]

For what it’s worth, I just wanted to say that long before I even knew the T-Vixen thread existed when I was still mostly a lurker just starting to get up the courage to post, you stood out to me from many of the posts of yours I read. I’m pretty sure you even contributed to a few of the threads I started, and your posts always seemed to come from a very genuine, mature, and wise perspective and I thought they were full of good insight. As far as the pics…well, if I had half the male analog of a physique like yours my pics would be all over TNation, too!

In any case, even if you took all your pics down your posts would still be valuable to me![/quote]

I lol’d.

Post evidence (unlikely), her tits (more likely) or GTFO.

[quote]Mascherano wrote:
I have no idea what’s been said in the last few pages, but high school does have its purposes.

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  • Awkward sorta-sex
  • Underage drinking
  • Filler between minimum wage jobs

There’s a reason why certain states won’t let high schoolers earn their GED until their graduating class…graduates.

[quote]clip11 wrote:
Where can I get a job being popular? In other words, where can I go and have my job description say “be popular” and get a check for it? If it’s so important, why dont high schools have classes on how to be popular. I dont have to go to high school to have social skills, in fact, that has nothing to do with the price of tea in china. [/quote]

I thought you were a moron after reading your initial post but after reading this…being popular aka social skills is one of the most invaluable skills a person can have to find a job, theres such a thing called networking and that + hard work will get you work in pretty much any field

you better thank your uncle every day.

becuase with your thinking, no one else would hire you.

In terms of actual content, most education post 16 is just a means to an end as opposed to something which is intrinsically valuable IMO/experience.

Only problem is though, many people will take a rather dim view of you (in terms of potential) if you aren’t willing OR capable of jumping through the appropriate hoops to move forward in life.

Life success, for 99.9999999% of people is always going to be a balance between ‘playing the game’ & retaining your own sense of what’s important. Just try not to get sucked into any crazy extremes of thinking (with regards this particular conundrum) & you’ll do alright.

I could give a few pretty practical examples of why you should finish high school, but I can bet that I already know what the response will be so I’ll spare beating a dead horse.

The history argument OP makes is kind of void of any real point. It allows you to understand historical points in time that were significant to society, providing insight on how society should structure itself into the future.

If you can’t understand that simple concept, then all the more reason for one to finish high school.

I know a guy who never finished high school and he’s never had a job, never got married, never had kids, no one talks to him and he just basically lies around all day long and he just plain ol’ stinks.

He got hit my a car when he was 16.

Thank you jskrabac.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol, you’re pretty fucking hung up on that pics thing dude. A broken record is what you are. Get over it already.[/quote]

well are you known for anything else? if it wasn’t for those pictures, you’d be anonymous - just like back in high school :)[/quote]

lol that’s right, posting pictures on T-Nation is my single accomplishment in life :frowning: I’m so worthless without them. They must be some pretty good pictures with my big head.[/quote]

it’s all you’re known for here. great accomplishment.[/quote]

um…so?

Like I said, you’re pretty hung up on this. It’s more than a little bit weird. Time for you to move on, seriously.

Classes like English are important because it teaches you to critically analyze written word and fully comprehend what you are reading so that when you try to make a point about something on an internet forum, you don’t sound like a god damned retard.

[quote]debraD wrote:
Thank you jskrabac.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
lol, you’re pretty fucking hung up on that pics thing dude. A broken record is what you are. Get over it already.[/quote]

well are you known for anything else? if it wasn’t for those pictures, you’d be anonymous - just like back in high school :)[/quote]

lol that’s right, posting pictures on T-Nation is my single accomplishment in life :frowning: I’m so worthless without them. They must be some pretty good pictures with my big head.[/quote]

it’s all you’re known for here. great accomplishment.[/quote]

um…so?

Like I said, you’re pretty hung up on this. It’s more than a little bit weird. Time for you to move on, seriously.

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No. I’m not “hung up on it”. You decided to cross your sword with me honey britches. You don’t get to decide the terms of engagement. What else would I be hung up on? WTF else are you known for? You can say I have the grace of a sledgehammer (pointing out the obvious in these pages) and I can’t point out the obvious that you’re an unabashed needy attention whore that covets the lowest form of male admiration on an internet forum?

Wake me up when they admire you and you haven’t shown most or all of your birthday suit. Seriously.

“They?” Um yeah. You’re touched, old man.

[quote]debraD wrote:
“They?” Um yeah. You’re touched, old man. [/quote]

Old man? LOL. Listen up sugar tits. I don’t need a manual to see thru you. You’re typical damaged goods. High school drop out. Self-esteem issues. Seeking validation on a fucking internet forum. You’re about as original as a project mom with more than one kid.

High school was awesome because i wouldn’t do anything all day besides having a good time with my friends and laughing.

[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:
“They?” Um yeah. You’re touched, old man. [/quote]

Old man? LOL. Listen up sugar tits. I don’t need a manual to see thru you. You’re typical damaged goods. High school drop out. Self-esteem issues. Seeking validation on a fucking internet forum. You’re about as original as a project mom with more than one kid. [/quote]

Anyway, high school is a business and it’s no different from college from a business point of view. Plenty of people have dropped out of high school and went on to become successful individuals…maybe not in an intellectual field but successful none the less.