Gotta see the cristler video again. Was the 80 like 100 cause it’s subq or because we are splitting the weekly injection in 2?
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36mg EOD subq had me at TT of 584 and E2 of 25.6
40mg EOD subq has me at TT of 657. No E2 test that day
SHBG has ranged from 31-38.2 on the above doses.
I almost feel like looking at my numbers, subq is absorbed, but might not be as potent as IM??
Or maybe we’re so individual that either delivery method doesn’t matter??
You guys might find this study on IM vs sybQ in interesting read. Not that anyone would buy this sub-Q delivery system when 27ga syringes are 12 bucks a hundred.
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Crazy how individualistic TRT is… You do 8mg and I do 17mg, every day, more than twice the amount! How high is your Free T and the range, systemlord? Mine at trough:
Testosterone Free Calculated 565 pmol/L (110-660)
After only 7 days of 10mg, I’m sitting in front of my computer feeling great and fatigue from hell hits me to where I couldn’t even sit upright in my chair, I almost collapsed. It felt wrong on so many levels, I thought I was going to die!
It wasn’t high estrogen, this was something different. My body just doesn’t like daily injections at all. It was the only time E2 was under 30.
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Did you ever try lowering the dosage and staying on daily?
Yes, other problems came about, skin turned red, dried out and burned terribly. So no 10mg daily, yet I can do 25mg EOD and not have any other those problems, strange.
Erections and libido was amazing, it was the only time estrogen was well controlled. Erections went from 0-60 in 6-7 days!
I wish I could do daily.
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That last part is all I wanted to hear!
I think I’m going to start daily at 10mg Monday. Whether I go subq or IM is another debate.
If you attempt daily, don’t give up, just adjust dosage only after 6 weeks and sooner or later you’ll hit that sweat spot.
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Thanks. You’ve somewhat inspired me to give it a go. The only times I’ve felt something positive from TRT is when I was on EOD. It was clarity in my mind and energy. Just a better overall sense of well being. But still nothing in terms of arousal. Maybe e2 was still just too high.
I’ve been at 60mg e3d for over a month and it’s no different than when I was no 50mg e3d. I just feel nothing.
It stands to reason if you dose it smartly, ED protocol will be a greater improvement than going from twice weekly to EOD.
I felt almost nothing on a 3.5 day protocol, no muscle or body comp changes.
Thanks. I think I’ll start at 12mg a day. This puts me at 84mg a week.
I think 12mg will be too high.
Why might it be too high for Roscoe? I’m + 50% that amount and I have room to grow as far as Free T goes…
Testosterone Free Calculated 565 pmol/L (110-660)
I’m looking at this from another perspective, he’s thinking about testosterone and I’m thinking about his number one problem, estrogen.
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Exactly.
At 10mg or 12mg I’d have sufficient T. It’s the E I need to worry about.
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It’s insane how you can use that low an amount but not me. I can’t go lower than 17mg or I don’t feel good and my average-low T levels show it. I have to break over 100mg a week (use 120mg) or it just doesn’t work. Despite my LOW SHBG of 14! Crazy…
Yup my source exactly.
Pretty sure because it is subq.