Well then we are saying the same thing.
I just find it hard to believe that this “amount required” is over 30…
So what the fuck are we arguing about for crissakes LMAO
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Lmaooo I don’t know anymore. I guess we are saying the same thing. I just can’t picture everyone feeling better with such high Free T.
I will step down seeing as we both agree on this.
Wow that was a waste of typing.
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What possible reason would I have to lie about this? This is what they are telling me. If it was 20 they would say 20. If it was 60 they would say 60. They tell me 90% of the guys if not more, are between 30-60. Every damn one of those docs is telling me the same thing. Should I tell them they’re lying? When I do the same with the guys I work with, the guys improve. It’s been demonstrated so much I’ll bet my first born at this point.
I am not saying I don’t believe you, for some reason I thought you were a fan of high E2. It’s true E2 is irrelevant in terms of trying to manage by AIs. e2 is managed naturally by corresponding serum T
I rest my case. I am surprised however to hear that in your experiences most men feel better at 30+ free T. What dosages do you see this relating to?
What is a typical daily protocol look like?
Just do yourself a favor. STOP worrying about E2. Stop it! Stop it!! Get your levels stable. Those fluctuations doing twice weekly injections don’t work for a ton of guys, especially if their SHBG is on the low end. Do an experiment and try daily shots for awhile. See if it makes a difference. If you still have issues after 6 weeks increase dose a touch and see what difference it makes. I would not be giving you this advice unless I was absolutely confident that it works.
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It’s not that I am a fan of high E2. I don’t care about E2 at all. It could be 30 or it could be 130. I don’t care. We don’t measure it anymore. We will watch free T as an indicator as to whether a dose should potentially be raised or lowered. That’s it.
Fine the correct dose of testosterone. That’s literally all you have to do.
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Quick question. I’m reading some of this and don’t understand all. My estradiol was like 38 with the high range being 42. I’m curious, are you saying that as I take T Cypionate, I shouldn’t be concerned with where my estrogen is? I thought higher estrogen causes gynecomastia if other hormones are in the norm.
The ranges are based on men not on TRT. Ignore them.
Fluctuations of hormones can cause gyno of you are genetically prone to it. I got gyno prior to TRT with my E2 at 12. I was a hormonal mess. It’s much better now and my E2 is over 50.
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I hope everyone is having a lovely Christmas Eve.
I’m just over here trying not to lol because I don’t want any of my family to ask what’s so funny. Then I’d have to say “so there’s these two guys on the internet… arguing about how much estrogen men should have”. Palmface.
It sure is entertaining though
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Same to you! Lol
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Same to you too guys! 
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I was posting to contrast the absolutes you stated. If I were to brag I would have mentioned my 9 inch penis but I’m much too classy for that.
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lol 9 internet inches so that’s like 5 in real life right? @dextermorgan
I think I know where you’re injecting daily. LOL
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Merry Christmas Eve brother!
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@grinnin
A respectable 5.75
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Just had to throw the .75 in there lol, for Simplicity well call it an even 6.
Have a Merry Christmas man!
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Dude, for gods sake. What you are showing here is NOTHING NEW in this community, for years and years and years people have known, KNOWN, that high e2 is a big problem and bring all kinds of negative effects, THOUSANDS of TRT docs all over the world KNOW IT, it has been demonstrated again and again and again, millions of anecdotes.
WE KNOW THIS. STOP LISTENING to idiots who claim otherwise, Danny Bossa is a no body, a fool who dont know what he is talking about, I have so many guys now who he have "helped whos mood has went to complete shit cause of it. And he bans people in the group who argue him. Do not listen to him, he is a fool.
high e2 is a big problem, dont fall for the late nonsense.
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@equel I don’t think anyone would read any of your posts and think “this guy seems like a happy person who’s obviously got their shit figured out”.
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