[quote]krazykoukides wrote:
Just see how you respond to high-carbs. That’s the only true way to tell. We can’t tell you how your body will respond… only you can figure that out.
One ecto is not the same as another ecto. Just because you’re an ectomorph doesn’t mean you will respond the same way to carbs as another.
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Follow this man’s advice.
Pay attention to how your body responds, not how other people’s mouths respond. Experiment. Ask your BODY the question - it won’t lie.
Well, im not sure how much the OP weighs, but regardless of his weight, following nutrient timing is a better idea. Sure if he’s 140lbs and 8% BF then he doesn’t need to worry about anything and should just load up on any calories, but you cant just make that assumption just because he says he’s an ecto. The simple approach of eating more and training hard doesn’t work for everyone despite what everyone has been led to believe.
I think it’s funny how some people completely ignore all of the steps forward in nutrition in recent years…
Anyone who has either been very fat or very skinny will confirm the existence of different genotypes. Hell, different authors writing about different diets is a confirmation in and of itself. Do you really think this thread would exist if it didn’t? It’s not all dogma. Some of it is, and some of it definitely isn’t.
To the OP: Berardi is a good place to start for the ectomorphic person in you. Yes, of course nutrient timing is important… but it is less important if you are always insulin sensitive. So, I’d just eat most of the carbs post workout with higher GI choices, and then get the low GI/fruits the rest of the day.
[quote]ksommer wrote:
I think it’s funny how some people completely ignore all of the steps forward in nutrition in recent years…
Anyone who has either been very fat or very skinny will confirm the existence of different genotypes. Hell, different authors writing about different diets is a confirmation in and of itself. Do you really think this thread would exist if it didn’t? It’s not all dogma. Some of it is, and some of it definitely isn’t.
To the OP: Berardi is a good place to start for the ectomorphic person in you. Yes, of course nutrient timing is important… but it is less important if you are always insulin sensitive. So, I’d just eat most of the carbs post workout with higher GI choices, and then get the low GI/fruits the rest of the day.[/quote]
He shouldn’t care what the theory says until he tests it himself. Even if 90 percent of ectos respond one way to carbs according to Berardi, he could be in the 10 percent that responds differently. His massive eating went a lot like this… “Don’t eat one pack of instant oatmeal, eat two.” Thanks, really. Everything is so clear now.
PS If someone has been fat or skinny their whole life, it’s most likely due to activity level and eating habits. These things are not set in stone.
[quote]chitown34 wrote:
PS If someone has been fat or skinny their whole life, it’s most likely due to activity level and eating habits. These things are not set in stone. [/quote]
Wrong. I had a roommate last year who ate half a pack of oreos for breakfast, McDonalds for lunch, and beer and potato chips for dinner - all he did was play video games, and he was 6’1" and 150 lbs. Not much muscle OR body fat.
I used to be fat. Guess what? My eating habits and activity levels were the same as my roommate’s. Same lifestyle, same diet, different result.
I’m sure you can think of a similar example if you spent more than 5 seconds considering it.
Ya I agree, its not always as simple as eat and train. Some people will need to have their thyroid levels tested.
Genetics play a HUGE role in all of this. Regardless of his genetics though, there are always general recomendations that he can try to see if they work for him.
1.) Short intense workouts. (3x/week full body, no isolation)
2.) Eat as much as possible
3.) Focus on “quality” nutrition around the workout (Carbs and protein)
4.) Sleep enough
5.) repeat