Monetarily and behaviorally.
Oh let me imagine what will happen with a non-tax exempt Church, reinforcing āseparation of Church and state.ā Like any business, amight? Gosh, how long before those labor and civil rights laws would come to bear on traditional orthodox Churches, associated schools and hospitals.
When you solve taxation and redistribution let me know. Yes, including the tax money of religious citiznes (we sort of make up the majority) to colleges, hospitals, clinics, public schools acting and instructing contrary to OUR teaching and beliefs.
Defund all those things and strengthen the RFRA and I will sign on the dotted lineā¦ No lie. Will do it in a heart beat.
All of which I understand and comprehend.
But donāt say nobody should be forced to entertain your illusion and THEN talk about the reasons we should be forced to entertain your illusion.
So you want to use the tax and redistribution system to talk about privately forcing people to accept my religious beliefs (Illusions)?
When and where? The beliefs.
Good, then you know it isnāt one-sided with taxation and redistribution. Including secular tax exempt organizations that receive the tax money originating from religious people and their organizations (not everything is exempt) that act contrary to our beliefs.
I will take you up on it, and sign off on the above deal in a heartbeat. Pull a Benedict Option and become completely untouchable in our own institutions .(colleges, hospitals, adoption agencies) while we leave you guys to fill the holes in services where weāve had to pull out. Letās do it! And since we are taxed like any other business, nothing at all to say about our even more increased lobbying presence.
No, I want to use the tax system to demonstrate a method by which you want to force people to entertain (fund) your beliefs right after you claimed nobody should be forced to entertain your beliefs.
Fwiw, I donāt really want to discuss religion at all. Itās a horrendously boring subject and all religious talks with you inevitably devolve into a one liner battle with Zecarlo that forces people to skip real conversation topics.
But good god man. At least own wanting to give religious groups special privileges. Itās bonkers as shit
'Where is anyone forced to accept my beliefs?
If I donāt pay my taxes, Iām going to jail. Itās arguably the only way in which anyone is forced to accept religious beliefs in this country.
Every other āforcingā you can avoid by just leaving.
Edit: Also, the words you used were entertain your illusion. Accepting the beliefs has absolutely no impact or relevance
The guy getting his gall bladder removal reimbursed through medicaid doesnāt have to become Catholic, right? I get what youāre saying, the funding, but nobody is forced to accept my Catholic beliefs. As for the taxation and funding, again, itās a two way street.
Entertain my illusions refers to my beliefs.
And entertain != accept.
Iām forced to fund your beliefs, while Iām not forced to accept them
I mean, Iām dead serious though. You complete defend those things above, closing their own tax breaks/exemptions, and I will sign that deal at the exact same time. Agreed?
Ok, I am going to adopt your language. Itās reasonable. Am I forced to entertain beliefs and practices that are contrary to my own through the tax system?
You are correct in this. āGod theoryā generates no testable hypotheses.
Absolutely. As evident by the existence of PP.
God theory, Thank you, Sir! I am not a well-versed as you, I admit.
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Among other things. Like public schools, universities, hospitals and clinics that provide services contrary to my beleifs.
Absolutely. I also have zero problem acknowledging that (especially considering none of those things are spawns of my beliefs that are being forced on others).
edit: should clarify, religious beliefs. I cant say for certain whether or not I morally agree with anything you morally disagree with.
Are they providing services based on rational thinking or irrational thinking, like religious belief?
Chalk you up to fund institutions performing abortions and distribution of contraception? Are the the teaching of Gender/queer normalization in courses?