[quote]mingledorff7 wrote:
Pain you said you would like to use 20iu a day for bulking. Have you ever takin GH before? Surely if you haven’t you would have to ramp up to that dosage.
Wouldn’t 4-5iu be a good medium?[/quote]
I would not want to take that much a day for multiple reasons. I have not used HGH before, I saw a protocol awhile back that called for 20iu/day. This is the highest dose I have ever came across. In all reality I would like to get away with 5iu/day. And as Control mentioned an eod protocol would be even better.
I have ran (and am currently) HGH…using small amount ED (5x per week)…aprox. 1.5 - 2 iu’s…(tried higher…carpel was a bitch)…find my energy levels higher, fat loss accelerated, strenght maybee a little higher (probably due to increase in energy), and my appetite up as well.
all in all very happy…but…cost is high (lower than most, thankfully)…currently between$145-$200 for 100iu’s
[quote]iksrtfo28 wrote:
I have ran (and am currently) HGH…using small amount ED (5x per week)…aprox. 1.5 - 2 iu’s…(tried higher…carpel was a bitch)…find my energy levels higher, fat loss accelerated, strenght maybee a little higher (probably due to increase in energy), and my appetite up as well.
all in all very happy…but…cost is high (lower than most, thankfully)…currently between$145-$200 for 100iu’s[/quote]
Are you running any AAS? Are you injecting PWO? What is your planned duration of use?
Thanks in advance.
also doing test E 500mg’s week (16 weeker)…I’ve been doing my injects 1st thing in the morning (easier for me)…5 on 2 off…and alternate between SUBQ and IM…(no answer as to why)…3 months into the HGH…plan on aprox. 2 more (had 2 kits on hand)
3 more weeks of the test…so I’ll be able to see what impact the HGH has on mantaining gains.
you forgot to mention the main side effect of HGH. Not only does it cut bodyfat, it GREATLY reduces the weight of ones wallet.
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I ran it during the largest cycle ive ever ran. Ran 5iu a day for about 3 months and most shots were pwo. Also incorporated humalog in at this point.
Was running between 1500-2000mg of AAS per week as well.
I reached the heaviest ive ever been @ 269 lbs and could still fit in a 36" waist pair of jeans.
I was consuming a rediculus amount of calories 6000-7000+ so didnt really notice its slimming effects.
The one thing it most certainly helped was to resolve some pain in my left knee. Im unsure as to what was causing the pain for sure, as I never went to see specialist over it. The pain was so drastic that I walked with a slight limp from time to time and it felt like my leg was going to go out from under me.
Id like to do more, but costs here have seemed to climb to about the mid 400s for 100 iu. Cost to benefit ratio just doenst seem to be there in my opinion right now.
In somewhere from 5-7 years time I will use it again at somewhere between 2-3ius per day for most of a year for its anti aging benefits. When I start creeping closer to 40 I just dont want to feel like it.
Lillguy, did you notice any tightness/swelling of the hands on 5iu a day?
I just completed a 3month course of HGH/TRT and metformin and I was happy to come off in the end, my hands hurt so bad which I am attributing to the HGH, just wondering if you have suffered similar?
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
I ran it during the largest cycle ive ever ran. Ran 5iu a day for about 3 months and most shots were pwo. Also incorporated humalog in at this point.
Was running between 1500-2000mg of AAS per week as well.
I reached the heaviest ive ever been @ 269 lbs and could still fit in a 36" waist pair of jeans.
.[/quote]
Now I am sold;)
I didnt really experience any tightness/swelling or carpel tunnel like symptoms.
I was however exausted going up a couple flights of stairs at that weight.
Gotta say that doesn’t sounds healthy LOL
[quote]LillGuy001 wrote:
I didnt really experience any tightness/swelling or carpel tunnel like symptoms.
I was however exausted going up a couple flights of stairs at that weight. [/quote]
Even after 10 days coming off I am still getting unpleaseant feelings in my hans, it worst when I grip hard or lift a heavy weight, the tips of my fingers feel like there is no blood going into them at all and they go really numb but a bit painful too.
I was planning on running 6 months but I am not sure I wish to do the next 3 months now, whch is a shame cos I have a whole bovx there waiting for me.
I think I need to play around with the dosage protocol and find something better for me.
Hey Guys,
I’ve been scoping out this forum for a couple of weeks now. I’ve been a regular in other forums on this site for over a year. I created this new profile to keep this interest private from my other participation.
I am very impressed with the knowledge level of many of you and intend to continue tuning into the many threads.
I can add my experience using GH to the mix. I was prescribed Humatrope in Canada in March 2007 for sub-optimal levels. One cartridge (6 mg) cost $355. My doc recommended 0.2 mg SC per day in the morning. I got the pen injection kit from the same company (Lilly). I used it for only 1 month due to the prohibitive cost (I made a request to our provincial medicare to subsidize but was refused).
During the month the effects I noticed were:
- Carpel tunnel in my right wrist (I am susceptible because of frequent computer use)
- Decrease in flexibility most pronounced when stretching at the gym
- I was complemented on the appearence of my skin
The pen held 6 mg or 18 I.U. That was for 30 days at 0.2 mg per day or 0.6 I.U.
The top of the pen rotated and clicked for every 0.1 mg of selected dose. It had a digital display.
I was not on AAS at that time. I have only done one very small cycle of primo & winstrol about 5 years ago. That and other HRT prescribed by my doc such as test cream, hCG, Arimidex, Bromocriptine, Synthroid, and then Armour Thyroide. Also DHEA & Pregnenolone caps.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
Hey Guys,
I’ve been scoping out this forum for a couple of weeks now. I’ve been a regular in other forums on this site for over a year. I created this new profile to keep this interest private from my other participation.
I am very impressed with the knowledge level of many of you and intend to continue tuning into the many threads.
I can add my experience using GH to the mix. I was prescribed Humatrope in Canada in March 2007 for sub-optimal levels. One cartridge (6 mg) cost $355. My doc recommended 0.2 mg SC per day in the morning. I got the pen injection kit from the same company (Lilly). I used it for only 1 month due to the prohibitive cost (I made a request to our provincial medicare to subsidize but was refused).
During the month the effects I noticed were:
- Carpel tunnel in my right wrist (I am susceptible because of frequent computer use)
- Decrease in flexibility most pronounced when stretching at the gym
- I was complemented on the appearence of my skin
The pen held 6 mg or 18 I.U. That was for 30 days at 0.2 mg per day or 0.6 I.U.
The top of the pen rotated and clicked for every 0.1 mg of selected dose. It had a digital display.
I was not on AAS at that time. I have only done one very small cycle of primo & winstrol about 5 years ago. That and other HRT prescribed by my doc such as test cream, hCG, Arimidex, Bromocriptine, Synthroid, and then Armour Thyroide. Also DHEA & Pregnenolone caps.[/quote]
Thanks, it’s interesting that you had similar issues with your joint pain as did Eales with his higher dose, even though you had used a very light dose.
How would you describe the skin deal? That seems like a nice bonus.
Glad to have the experiences being noted guys.
ToneBone
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Thanks, it’s interesting that you had similar issues with your joint pain as did Eales with his higher dose, even though you had used a very light dose.
How would you describe the skin deal? That seems like a nice bonus.
Glad to have the experiences being noted guys.
ToneBone[/quote]
I remember definitely not enjoying the aggravated carpel tunnel in my wrist. When I did chins/pull-ups I could feel the tendon sliding in its sheath. Reduced flexibility was troubling too especially as you noted with such a low dose. Things returned to normal shortly after finishing my 1 month supply. I remember being very let down by the effects I experienced from this “wonder drug” that I had built up to such a high degree. I don’t know if these symptoms could have been avoided in my case since I was already at such a low dosage. I would have had to build up slowly from 0.5 mg?? Maybe I am too susceptible to the negative sides of the substance?
My facial skin had a healthy glow to it.
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Thanks, it’s interesting that you had similar issues with your joint pain as did Eales with his higher dose, even though you had used a very light dose.
How would you describe the skin deal? That seems like a nice bonus.
Glad to have the experiences being noted guys.
ToneBone
I remember definitely not enjoying the aggravated carpel tunnel in my wrist. When I did chins/pull-ups I could feel the tendon sliding in its sheath. Reduced flexibility was troubling too especially as you noted with such a low dose. Things returned to normal shortly after finishing my 1 month supply. I remember being very let down by the effects I experienced from this “wonder drug” that I had built up to such a high degree. I don’t know if these symptoms could have been avoided in my case since I was already at such a low dosage. I would have had to build up slowly from 0.5 mg?? Maybe I am too susceptible to the negative sides of the substance?
My facial skin had a healthy glow to it.
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“Tendon sliding in it’s sheath”. Wow, wtf?!
That doesn’t sound too cozy now does it?
That is weird, I mean that doseage is damn near the starting point most go with when ramping up, so I can’t figure that one out. Like you say maybe you’re ultra sensitive and needed more of a gradual ramp, or maybe something was funky about the peptide you got, though that sounds hard to believe if it was from a scrip.
Did you refrigerate and all that jazz?
Maybe a different product might do you better who knows.
Thanks again though for the info.
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
“Tendon sliding in it’s sheath”. Wow, wtf?!
That doesn’t sound too cozy now does it?
That is weird, I mean that doseage is damn near the starting point most go with when ramping up, so I can’t figure that one out. Like you say maybe you’re ultra sensitive and needed more of a gradual ramp, or maybe something was funky about the peptide you got, though that sounds hard to believe if it was from a scrip.
Did you refrigerate and all that jazz?
Maybe a different product might do you better who knows.
Thanks again though for the info.
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Yeah, I know it sounds grody. I can’t blame the GH that much since I’ve gotten bouts of carpel tunnel before and after the cycle. Hell I feel it right now to some degree. I still feel it sliding a little when I do pull-ups. The GH just accentuated a prevailing condition in my case.
I did take all the necessary care of the product. At that price, I treated it like liquid gold!!
istarted GH in late feb, started 2ius and ramped up to 6 by middle may and ramped down to 3 where i currently stand.
no aas since early may, and i have been dieting extremely hard since the start.i have not gained much weight due to the reduction of calories/ cardio intensity, but it did exactly what i wanted it to do, lean me out more than i have ever been.my body comp change is pretty dramtic(to me of course,others may say different) but iam a very happy camper and will remain n GH well, untill my money runs out.lol.
if any body is interested i have pics from day 1 to current, i dont mind posting them,lmk.
[quote]sota123 wrote:
istarted GH in late feb, started 2ius and ramped up to 6 by middle may and ramped down to 3 where i currently stand.
no aas since early may, and i have been dieting extremely hard since the start.i have not gained much weight due to the reduction of calories/ cardio intensity, but it did exactly what i wanted it to do, lean me out more than i have ever been.my body comp change is pretty dramtic(to me of course,others may say different) but iam a very happy camper and will remain n GH well, untill my money runs out.lol.
if any body is interested i have pics from day 1 to current, i dont mind posting them,lmk.[/quote]
Sounds pretty killer Sota. I for one would be very interested in seeing your pics. Damn, you’ve been on a nice run then. Could you post your dosing protocol that was used as far as how long during the ramp up and level, and rampage back down? That would be some great input to the thread with the pics and info.
Thanks, ToneBone
[quote]Dynamo Hum wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
“Tendon sliding in it’s sheath”. Wow, wtf?!
That doesn’t sound too cozy now does it?
That is weird, I mean that doseage is damn near the starting point most go with when ramping up, so I can’t figure that one out. Like you say maybe you’re ultra sensitive and needed more of a gradual ramp, or maybe something was funky about the peptide you got, though that sounds hard to believe if it was from a scrip.
Did you refrigerate and all that jazz?
Maybe a different product might do you better who knows.
Thanks again though for the info.
Yeah, I know it sounds grody. I can’t blame the GH that much since I’ve gotten bouts of carpel tunnel before and after the cycle. Hell I feel it right now to some degree. I still feel it sliding a little when I do pull-ups. The GH just accentuated a prevailing condition in my case.
I did take all the necessary care of the product. At that price, I treated it like liquid gold!! [/quote]
Ok that sounds better then. I hadn’t heard of too many instances of such a negative reaction from people. But it makes sense then if it was pre-existing beforehand. Sorry about your luck btw with that.
ok heres lat spread taken 2-22
I weighed 207