I found several great threads when searching this site in regards to GH but would like to hear some feedback on what you guys think to be the minimum/max iu daily along with what type of test works the best in combination with growth. I realize everyones opinion will be different but need as much info as possible.
This will be my first experience with GH and I plan on starting it within the next 2 months. I am an experienced lifter, currently on a clean diet, not in any bulking phase, past experience with aas, just first time taking gh. Any thoughts will be greatly appreciated.
there is a pretty big range between the min and max.
min would be around 2iu/d and will just give you a little improvement in skin elasticity, vision, energy levels, etc…if you are taking it daily it is best to take it early am.
4iu ED or EOD is pretty much a minimum bodybuilding/fatloss dose…taken in split doses between early am and post workout. some take it pre-workout to help mobilize fat during excersize.
10iu ED or EOD is a typcial dose for someone looking to get mass gains out of it.
Some pros are said to take upwards of 20iu/d which I think is a little excessive and likely the cause of some of the freaky caveman looking guys on stage.
Not sure what the max you can take in a single subq is…maybe bushy or one of the guys that is more knowledgeable can chime in.
there is no type of test that works best with it…test is test…suspension, prop, enth, cyp, whatever…it will all work.
Thanks for the info Furious, the iu daily is the main thing i am searching for…not the exact iu b/c there is no exact but your response is in line with what i have heard. 4 - 10 iu ed
Bushy, how exactly did your physique change on the 4iu ed for 4 mo’s? Leaner, weight gain, bloating, possible muscle mass gained, how much did you retain, etc. Thanks
Well, the problem with anything above 2.5-3 iu for me was the pain in my right wrist and forearm in horizontal position. I slept very poorly because of that (almost unbearable).
I believe the muscle building benefits of GH are greatly influenced by how you take it.
The time at which the body releases it for the very purpose of muscle growth seems to be PWO.
For general maintenance of connective tissues and for growth spurts it is a pulsatile release all day, every day.
I’ve not studied the bodybuilding side of it in too much detail but i think that whatever amount you decided on buying per week would best be used as a single shot PWO divided accordingly.
Joe Brook:
I believe 1-2 i.u. would do jack unless you are like 60 years old.
4 i.u. PWO would have some effect but many people report it to be a very subtle effect that takes a long time to become apparent.
Vets say take it for multiple months otherwise save your money.
I expect after using aas you would be dissappointed with GH. I reckon it has become more widespread purely because they can’t detect it in pro athletes.
Anyway, that’s just a mixture of experience and research so i am no authority. Just wanted to shar some knowledge like it was shared unto me.
thanks Ready, hopefully people will keep responding to this thread. By the way, in case anyone has any input on this and knows if one is better than the other…the types of gh i am able to get are: tevtropin, omni, geno and norda
I expect after using aas you would be dissappointed with GH. I reckon it has become more widespread purely because they can’t detect it in pro athletes.
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I tend to agree there, its not a ‘quick fix’ if you will. However, the nice part about is the conceivable structural changes. Thicker bones, stronger tissues/joints=POTENTIAL for more muscle growth/ability to carry more mass. The set point alteration, if you will. Ok so I really said nothing there.
The danger? Because theres seems to be a large group of people that claim that combination is better for fat loss/muscle gain and more cost effect than GH+Insulin.