Rainjack, what did you do in the army?
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Ren wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Its generally conceded by social scientists that backward people do not understand concepts like time, future, imagination. They simply repeat some process that some rare THINKING individual thought up, like a plow. The unique thing about European culture is that they developed those concepts.
Ever read about the Boxer Rebellion? The Chinese would shoot over the heads of the British soldiers, thinking THAT would kill their ghosts. That illustrates perfectly what I mean. The reason western man dominated the world is because they were connected to reality. The rest of the world is slowly coming around, as in China, India, and so forth. Finally…
Now, as soon as the concept of nanny-government dies…
And I assume that the Salem witch trials are grounded in this Western Reality?
Or you know, the printed word, totally a western invention right?
Come on HH, you can’t possibly believe that every non-western culture is a bunch of brain-dead morons? Because if they were then how the hell could the Mayans predict solar eclipses or know that a year was slightly longer than 365 days? Because I am pretty sure creating an accurate calendar quite a few centuries before western society did requires some understanding of the concept of time.
Conceptual future-oriented thinking is primarily a phenomenon of European culture. This means that a higher % of peoples there think conceptually. In most areas of the world, someone who thinks this way is in a minority.
For ex, what would lead the Japanese to attack in 1941? Even they had figured out that they had little chance ( a few had). But, hey, they’ve got bushido!!
The west is clearly superior, though conceptual thinking is rising in China and India. The Middle East is waaaayyyy behind.
Would you consider mathematics conceptual?
If it is then perhaps you would care to tell me where the oldest recorded mathematical documents originate from?
Unless of course mathematics isn’t conceptual,in which case my argument falls apart…[/quote]
Are you referring to the work of Al-Kwarizmi and the first Algebra book(from memory, so Arabic spelling is off)? If so, Fibonacci would be proud of you!! Of course, no one would say that all societies have no intellectuals. Western society simply follows conceptual thinking more than others.
Of course, when the Emir of Baghdad burned all books that were not about Allah, that did require conceptual thinking, I’m sure.
Algebra comes originally from China. But why didn’t it have the same impact there? One has to wonder…
[quote]Wreckless wrote:
We’re not a harbor for stupid morons either.
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Are you the exception??
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Algebra comes originally from China. But why didn’t it have the same impact there? One has to wonder…
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Because Europe is made up of several peninsulas which lead to centuries of fierce competition, which made us use anything at our disposal to get the upper hand.
It also made it impossible for a central authority to simply supress ideas or innovations.
Scary that even our history of ideas was shaped by things like geography…
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Ren wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Its generally conceded by social scientists that backward people do not understand concepts like time, future, imagination. They simply repeat some process that some rare THINKING individual thought up, like a plow. The unique thing about European culture is that they developed those concepts.
Ever read about the Boxer Rebellion? The Chinese would shoot over the heads of the British soldiers, thinking THAT would kill their ghosts. That illustrates perfectly what I mean. The reason western man dominated the world is because they were connected to reality. The rest of the world is slowly coming around, as in China, India, and so forth. Finally…
Now, as soon as the concept of nanny-government dies…
And I assume that the Salem witch trials are grounded in this Western Reality?
Or you know, the printed word, totally a western invention right?
Come on HH, you can’t possibly believe that every non-western culture is a bunch of brain-dead morons? Because if they were then how the hell could the Mayans predict solar eclipses or know that a year was slightly longer than 365 days? Because I am pretty sure creating an accurate calendar quite a few centuries before western society did requires some understanding of the concept of time.
Conceptual future-oriented thinking is primarily a phenomenon of European culture. This means that a higher % of peoples there think conceptually. In most areas of the world, someone who thinks this way is in a minority.
For ex, what would lead the Japanese to attack in 1941? Even they had figured out that they had little chance ( a few had). But, hey, they’ve got bushido!!
The west is clearly superior, though conceptual thinking is rising in China and India. The Middle East is waaaayyyy behind.
Would you consider mathematics conceptual?
If it is then perhaps you would care to tell me where the oldest recorded mathematical documents originate from?
Unless of course mathematics isn’t conceptual,in which case my argument falls apart…
Are you referring to the work of Al-Kwarizmi and the first Algebra book(from memory, so Arabic spelling is off)? If so, Fibonacci would be proud of you!! Of course, no one would say that all societies have no intellectuals. Western society simply follows conceptual thinking more than others.
Of course, when the Emir of Baghdad burned all books that were not about Allah, that did require conceptual thinking, I’m sure.
Algebra comes originally from China. But why didn’t it have the same impact there? One has to wonder…
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That can certainly be used as an example,but I was thinking of older Indian texts such as Surya Siddhanta,circa 400ad.And If memory serves,Fibonacci numbers,obviously under another name, were first mentioned in Indian texts around 200bc,though I’m a bit rusty on that so I may be off timewise.
I also believe India gave us differential calculus and many other mathematical tortures I had to endure at school hehehe…
The Chinese also have a long and illustrious history of mathematical development.
Not exactly the hallmark of cultures that have no conceptual ability,is it?
And they aren’t called Arabic numerals for nothing.
[quote]Skystud wrote:
Rainjack, what did you do in the army?[/quote]
As little as I could.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Skystud wrote:
Rainjack, what did you do in the army?
As little as I could. [/quote]
Yeah, I know what you mean.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Ren wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Its generally conceded by social scientists that backward people do not understand concepts like time, future, imagination. They simply repeat some process that some rare THINKING individual thought up, like a plow. The unique thing about European culture is that they developed those concepts.
Ever read about the Boxer Rebellion? The Chinese would shoot over the heads of the British soldiers, thinking THAT would kill their ghosts. That illustrates perfectly what I mean. The reason western man dominated the world is because they were connected to reality. The rest of the world is slowly coming around, as in China, India, and so forth. Finally…
Now, as soon as the concept of nanny-government dies…
And I assume that the Salem witch trials are grounded in this Western Reality?
Or you know, the printed word, totally a western invention right?
Come on HH, you can’t possibly believe that every non-western culture is a bunch of brain-dead morons? Because if they were then how the hell could the Mayans predict solar eclipses or know that a year was slightly longer than 365 days? Because I am pretty sure creating an accurate calendar quite a few centuries before western society did requires some understanding of the concept of time.
Conceptual future-oriented thinking is primarily a phenomenon of European culture. This means that a higher % of peoples there think conceptually. In most areas of the world, someone who thinks this way is in a minority.
For ex, what would lead the Japanese to attack in 1941? Even they had figured out that they had little chance ( a few had). But, hey, they’ve got bushido!!
The west is clearly superior, though conceptual thinking is rising in China and India. The Middle East is waaaayyyy behind.
Would you consider mathematics conceptual?
If it is then perhaps you would care to tell me where the oldest recorded mathematical documents originate from?
Unless of course mathematics isn’t conceptual,in which case my argument falls apart…
Are you referring to the work of Al-Kwarizmi and the first Algebra book(from memory, so Arabic spelling is off)? If so, Fibonacci would be proud of you!! Of course, no one would say that all societies have no intellectuals. Western society simply follows conceptual thinking more than others.
Of course, when the Emir of Baghdad burned all books that were not about Allah, that did require conceptual thinking, I’m sure.
Algebra comes originally from China. But why didn’t it have the same impact there? One has to wonder…
That can certainly be used as an example,but I was thinking of older Indian texts such as Surya Siddhanta,circa 400ad.And If memory serves,Fibonacci numbers,obviously under another name, were first mentioned in Indian texts around 200bc,though I’m a bit rusty on that so I may be off timewise.
I also believe India gave us differential calculus and many other mathematical tortures I had to endure at school hehehe…
The Chinese also have a long and illustrious history of mathematical development.
Not exactly the hallmark of cultures that have no conceptual ability,is it?
And they aren’t called Arabic numerals for nothing.[/quote]
The Indians gave us the use of zero. Although the Mayans had a number system that included the use of zero before the Indians did.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Are you referring to the work of Al-Kwarizmi and the first Algebra book(from memory, so Arabic spelling is off)? If so, Fibonacci would be proud of you!! Of course, no one would say that all societies have no intellectuals. Western society simply follows conceptual thinking more than others.
Of course, when the Emir of Baghdad burned all books that were not about Allah, that did require conceptual thinking, I’m sure.
Algebra comes originally from China. But why didn’t it have the same impact there? One has to wonder…
That can certainly be used as an example,but I was thinking of older Indian texts such as Surya Siddhanta,circa 400ad.And If memory serves,Fibonacci numbers,obviously under another name, were first mentioned in Indian texts around 200bc,though I’m a bit rusty on that so I may be off timewise.
I also believe India gave us differential calculus and many other mathematical tortures I had to endure at school hehehe…
The Chinese also have a long and illustrious history of mathematical development.
Not exactly the hallmark of cultures that have no conceptual ability,is it?
And they aren’t called Arabic numerals for nothing.[/quote]
We have to question why mathematics had little impact on the society. Certainly there were sparks of intellect in India, China, many places. How many made mathematics and abstract thinking integral (no pun intended) to their cultures? The West was the first to do so, until we are now a culture of mathematics. Its truly everywhere.
It appears to me that European and European America is a superior culture. We have things like the Rights of Man, while these societies were thug dictatorships, where the local rajah would stick a knife in some emasciated human to steal his few bits of rice. Steal from millions and you can build the Taj Mahal.
Now, why would leftist professors hate this country, and teach you that ‘all cultures are equal, none is superior’? Perhaps they are the spiritual equivalent of those rajahs?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Are you referring to the work of Al-Kwarizmi and the first Algebra book(from memory, so Arabic spelling is off)? If so, Fibonacci would be proud of you!! Of course, no one would say that all societies have no intellectuals. Western society simply follows conceptual thinking more than others.
Of course, when the Emir of Baghdad burned all books that were not about Allah, that did require conceptual thinking, I’m sure.
Algebra comes originally from China. But why didn’t it have the same impact there? One has to wonder…
That can certainly be used as an example,but I was thinking of older Indian texts such as Surya Siddhanta,circa 400ad.And If memory serves,Fibonacci numbers,obviously under another name, were first mentioned in Indian texts around 200bc,though I’m a bit rusty on that so I may be off timewise.
I also believe India gave us differential calculus and many other mathematical tortures I had to endure at school hehehe…
The Chinese also have a long and illustrious history of mathematical development.
Not exactly the hallmark of cultures that have no conceptual ability,is it?
And they aren’t called Arabic numerals for nothing.
We have to question why mathematics had little impact on the society. Certainly there were sparks of intellect in India, China, many places. How many made mathematics and abstract thinking integral (no pun intended) to their cultures? The West was the first to do so, until we are now a culture of mathematics. Its truly everywhere.
It appears to me that European and European America is a superior culture. We have things like the Rights of Man, while these societies were thug dictatorships, where the local rajah would stick a knife in some emasciated human to steal his few bits of rice. Steal from millions and you can build the Taj Mahal.
Now, why would leftist professors hate this country, and teach you that ‘all cultures are equal, none is superior’? Perhaps they are the spiritual equivalent of those rajahs?
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So when European society was mired in the dark ages,with a feudal system of repression and abuse which was the equal of any other tyranny that any ancient civilization may have created,what was the one single invention that allowed for the rule of the mounted,heavily armored knight to be brought to a halt?
Gunpowder.
Those pesky uncivilized,technologically backward Chinese were at it again…
In one stroke they removed power from the hands of the landed,trained gentry and made all equal on the field.
You cannot dismiss their achievements and intellectual capacity in a sweeping derision of all that provided many of the building blocks for the “Western” civilization that we enjoy today.
History is cyclical,and while we are now in the ascendency,the one thing you can be sure of is that it cannot last forever.
While the internet is the greatest advance in the dissemination of knowledge since the printing press,look how it is being used.
Porn and gambling are the primary economic drivers of the net.
What does that tell you about our supposed “superior” culture?
The West has been on top of the game for maybe 300 years if you are being generous.That is a blink of a historic eye if you look back at many of the Empires that went before.
And the signs of our slow decline are fairly evident,if it is needed I can point them out.
So while the chest beating and pontification of our superiority sounds all gung ho and make for good reading and sound bites,all it does is detract from the more serious business of honest critical self assesment to see where we could improve our society in order to prolong its stay on the forefront of history.
There is no worst deception on Earth than self deception.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
So when European society was mired in the dark ages,with a feudal system of repression and abuse which was the equal of any other tyranny that any ancient civilization may have created,what was the one single invention that allowed for the rule of the mounted,heavily armored knight to be brought to a halt?
Gunpowder.
Those pesky uncivilized,technologically backward Chinese were at it again…
In one stroke they removed power from the hands of the landed,trained gentry and made all equal on the field.
You cannot dismiss their achievements and intellectual capacity in a sweeping derision of all that provided many of the building blocks for the “Western” civilization that we enjoy today.
History is cyclical,and while we are now in the ascendency,the one thing you can be sure of is that it cannot last forever.
While the internet is the greatest advance in the dissemination of knowledge since the printing press,look how it is being used.
Porn and gambling are the primary economic drivers of the net.
What does that tell you about our supposed “superior” culture?
The West has been on top of the game for maybe 300 years if you are being generous.That is a blink of a historic eye if you look back at many of the Empires that went before.
And the signs of our slow decline are fairly evident,if it is needed I can point them out.
So while the chest beating and pontification of our superiority sounds all gung ho and make for good reading and sound bites,all it does is detract from the more serious business of honest critical self assesment to see where we could improve our society in order to prolong its stay on the forefront of history.
There is no worst deception on Earth than self deception.[/quote]
If all cultures are equal, then the West should not have been able to conquer so much of the rest of the globe. In general, conceptual thinking will defeat tribemen who are repeating unthinkingly the motions they were taught.
Ask yourself why the steel processing works in China were closing down just as they opened ones in Britain? The Chinese simply couldn’t figure out how to run the process. The few sparks of intellect had gone out and no one was around to teach them. Empires and dictatorships tend to do this: They hate the Mind (like the libs in this country) and seek to shut them down ASAP. Unthinking animals are easier to rule. (This explains SO MUCH of the Libs agenda).
Why do power plants sit abandoned in central Africa? No one can replace the Europeans who built them. There are a few sparks of intellect, but they flee the countries there. Who wants to live in a society of thug unthinking brutes?
I’m proud of my country. It is morally and culturally superior to all the other countries on earth. I hereby give a silent ‘Thank YOU’ to the magnificent men who created it.
[quote]Neuromancer wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
Are you referring to the work of Al-Kwarizmi and the first Algebra book(from memory, so Arabic spelling is off)? If so, Fibonacci would be proud of you!! Of course, no one would say that all societies have no intellectuals. Western society simply follows conceptual thinking more than others.
Of course, when the Emir of Baghdad burned all books that were not about Allah, that did require conceptual thinking, I’m sure.
Algebra comes originally from China. But why didn’t it have the same impact there? One has to wonder…
That can certainly be used as an example,but I was thinking of older Indian texts such as Surya Siddhanta,circa 400ad.And If memory serves,Fibonacci numbers,obviously under another name, were first mentioned in Indian texts around 200bc,though I’m a bit rusty on that so I may be off timewise.
I also believe India gave us differential calculus and many other mathematical tortures I had to endure at school hehehe…
The Chinese also have a long and illustrious history of mathematical development.
Not exactly the hallmark of cultures that have no conceptual ability,is it?
And they aren’t called Arabic numerals for nothing.
We have to question why mathematics had little impact on the society. Certainly there were sparks of intellect in India, China, many places. How many made mathematics and abstract thinking integral (no pun intended) to their cultures? The West was the first to do so, until we are now a culture of mathematics. Its truly everywhere.
It appears to me that European and European America is a superior culture. We have things like the Rights of Man, while these societies were thug dictatorships, where the local rajah would stick a knife in some emasciated human to steal his few bits of rice. Steal from millions and you can build the Taj Mahal.
Now, why would leftist professors hate this country, and teach you that ‘all cultures are equal, none is superior’? Perhaps they are the spiritual equivalent of those rajahs?
So when European society was mired in the dark ages,with a feudal system of repression and abuse which was the equal of any other tyranny that any ancient civilization may have created,what was the one single invention that allowed for the rule of the mounted,heavily armored knight to be brought to a halt?
Gunpowder.
Those pesky uncivilized,technologically backward Chinese were at it again…
In one stroke they removed power from the hands of the landed,trained gentry and made all equal on the field.
You cannot dismiss their achievements and intellectual capacity in a sweeping derision of all that provided many of the building blocks for the “Western” civilization that we enjoy today.
History is cyclical,and while we are now in the ascendency,the one thing you can be sure of is that it cannot last forever.
While the internet is the greatest advance in the dissemination of knowledge since the printing press,look how it is being used.
Porn and gambling are the primary economic drivers of the net.
What does that tell you about our supposed “superior” culture?
The West has been on top of the game for maybe 300 years if you are being generous.That is a blink of a historic eye if you look back at many of the Empires that went before.
And the signs of our slow decline are fairly evident,if it is needed I can point them out.
So while the chest beating and pontification of our superiority sounds all gung ho and make for good reading and sound bites,all it does is detract from the more serious business of honest critical self assesment to see where we could improve our society in order to prolong its stay on the forefront of history.
There is no worst deception on Earth than self deception.[/quote]
HH will now comment on how the West used gunpowder to dominate the world and spread western “civilization”, clearly making them the superior culture.
Cos you know, while the Rajahs were “sticking people” Western kings would never have used their power of authority to say, take poor peasant girls to their bed for sex, or behead husbands for some crime so they could sleep with the newly widowed women. Not the enlightened Western Culture, no sir.
I mean, we advanced from that era faster than other cultures, big deal. There are a ton of reasons why that happened, saying we did it first does not make us better.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
I’m proud of my country. It is morally and culturally superior to all the other countries on earth. I hereby give a silent ‘Thank YOU’ to the magnificent men who created it.
[/quote]
While, not so silently, applauding the men who tear it down…
There really was no way to resist that…
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
So when European society was mired in the dark ages,with a feudal system of repression and abuse which was the equal of any other tyranny that any ancient civilization may have created,what was the one single invention that allowed for the rule of the mounted,heavily armored knight to be brought to a halt?
Gunpowder.
Those pesky uncivilized,technologically backward Chinese were at it again…
In one stroke they removed power from the hands of the landed,trained gentry and made all equal on the field.
You cannot dismiss their achievements and intellectual capacity in a sweeping derision of all that provided many of the building blocks for the “Western” civilization that we enjoy today.
History is cyclical,and while we are now in the ascendency,the one thing you can be sure of is that it cannot last forever.
While the internet is the greatest advance in the dissemination of knowledge since the printing press,look how it is being used.
Porn and gambling are the primary economic drivers of the net.
What does that tell you about our supposed “superior” culture?
The West has been on top of the game for maybe 300 years if you are being generous.That is a blink of a historic eye if you look back at many of the Empires that went before.
And the signs of our slow decline are fairly evident,if it is needed I can point them out.
So while the chest beating and pontification of our superiority sounds all gung ho and make for good reading and sound bites,all it does is detract from the more serious business of honest critical self assesment to see where we could improve our society in order to prolong its stay on the forefront of history.
There is no worst deception on Earth than self deception.
If all cultures are equal, then the West should not have been able to conquer so much of the rest of the globe. In general, conceptual thinking will defeat tribemen who are repeating unthinkingly the motions they were taught.
Ask yourself why the steel processing works in China were closing down just as they opened ones in Britain? The Chinese simply couldn’t figure out how to run the process. The few sparks of intellect had gone out and no one was around to teach them. Empires and dictatorships tend to do this: They hate the Mind (like the libs in this country) and seek to shut them down ASAP. Unthinking animals are easier to rule. (This explains SO MUCH of the Libs agenda).
Why do power plants sit abandoned in central Africa? No one can replace the Europeans who built them. There are a few sparks of intellect, but they flee the countries there. Who wants to live in a society of thug unthinking brutes?
"I’m proud of my country. It is morally and culturally superior to all the other countries on earth. I hereby give a silent ‘Thank YOU’ to the magnificent men who created it.
[/quote]
That would explain how the Goths sacked Rome,the Mongols crushed most of the known world,and the Brits were given a good pump by the Zulus at Isandlwana.With spears against rifles.And that acute conceptual thinking was also well in evidence in the Redcoat’s methods of battle of marching abreast and standing up while firing and receiving fusillade after fusillade…or is that the unthinking repetition of what they were taught?
You have no concept of what European occupation did to Africa.I live there,and have travelled extensively in it.So that is the most asinine remark possible.If you had just the first clue about it,you would not be trumpeting our Western moral superiority so loudly.
There is nothing wrong with being proud of your country.I am proud of mine too.But when that leads on to your next statement,then it is quite clear that you don’t think about how to make it better very much,since it’s already perfect.
You have no capacity to perhaps even consider that other places may have better ways of doing certain things,and that lessons could be learnt from those sources that would benefit your culture and society.
Even older,less advanced cultures have valuable lessons to teach us if we are open to learning.
I find it quite sad that as a teacher,this is your dogma.
Or maybe I have just taken your posts the wrong way,please clear it up for me if I have.
As for the whole ‘lib’ ‘con’ debate,we are talking about issues that are so much bigger than the tribalism of that viewpoint that I don’t really see the relevance.
I don’t recall any of my posts villifying any particular political party…or trying to score brownie points on a political level.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
If all cultures are equal, then the West should not have been able to conquer so much of the rest of the globe. In general, conceptual thinking will defeat tribemen who are repeating unthinkingly the motions they were taught.
Ask yourself why the steel processing works in China were closing down just as they opened ones in Britain? The Chinese simply couldn’t figure out how to run the process. The few sparks of intellect had gone out and no one was around to teach them. Empires and dictatorships tend to do this: They hate the Mind (like the libs in this country) and seek to shut them down ASAP. Unthinking animals are easier to rule. (This explains SO MUCH of the Libs agenda).
Why do power plants sit abandoned in central Africa? No one can replace the Europeans who built them. There are a few sparks of intellect, but they flee the countries there. Who wants to live in a society of thug unthinking brutes?
I’m proud of my country. It is morally and culturally superior to all the other countries on earth. I hereby give a silent ‘Thank YOU’ to the magnificent men who created it.
[/quote]
You have no idea what you are talking about. None. That powerplant comment is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing I have heard in a while. No fucking shit nobody knows how to use them, do you have ANY idea how the Europeans treated black Africans? I highly doubt you do. Seriously, try manning a powerplant when you are barred from getting a higher education. Or when its illegal to mingle with white folks.
And for the record, I love America, very happy to be here, but most Americans know jack about their own culture and history. They know even less about the rest of the world.
The deafening sound of silence…
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Neuromancer wrote:
So when European society was mired in the dark ages,with a feudal system of repression and abuse which was the equal of any other tyranny that any ancient civilization may have created,what was the one single invention that allowed for the rule of the mounted,heavily armored knight to be brought to a halt?
Gunpowder.
Those pesky uncivilized,technologically backward Chinese were at it again…
In one stroke they removed power from the hands of the landed,trained gentry and made all equal on the field.
You cannot dismiss their achievements and intellectual capacity in a sweeping derision of all that provided many of the building blocks for the “Western” civilization that we enjoy today.
History is cyclical,and while we are now in the ascendency,the one thing you can be sure of is that it cannot last forever.
While the internet is the greatest advance in the dissemination of knowledge since the printing press,look how it is being used.
Porn and gambling are the primary economic drivers of the net.
What does that tell you about our supposed “superior” culture?
The West has been on top of the game for maybe 300 years if you are being generous.That is a blink of a historic eye if you look back at many of the Empires that went before.
And the signs of our slow decline are fairly evident,if it is needed I can point them out.
So while the chest beating and pontification of our superiority sounds all gung ho and make for good reading and sound bites,all it does is detract from the more serious business of honest critical self assesment to see where we could improve our society in order to prolong its stay on the forefront of history.
There is no worst deception on Earth than self deception.
If all cultures are equal, then the West should not have been able to conquer so much of the rest of the globe. In general, conceptual thinking will defeat tribemen who are repeating unthinkingly the motions they were taught.
Ask yourself why the steel processing works in China were closing down just as they opened ones in Britain? The Chinese simply couldn’t figure out how to run the process. The few sparks of intellect had gone out and no one was around to teach them. Empires and dictatorships tend to do this: They hate the Mind (like the libs in this country) and seek to shut them down ASAP. Unthinking animals are easier to rule. (This explains SO MUCH of the Libs agenda).
Why do power plants sit abandoned in central Africa? No one can replace the Europeans who built them. There are a few sparks of intellect, but they flee the countries there. Who wants to live in a society of thug unthinking brutes?
I’m proud of my country. It is morally and culturally superior to all the other countries on earth. I hereby give a silent ‘Thank YOU’ to the magnificent men who created it.
[/quote]
Ethnocentrism at its best. You sound a lot like Hitler. Congratulations you’re a celebrity!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
In fact, what Republicans objected to was Clinton’s transforming a U.N. mission in Somalia to prevent mass starvation into a much grander “nation-building” exercise ? something the Democrats now hysterically support in Darfur and oppose in Iraq.
If Republicans are all about “spreading democracy”, why would they be against building up parts of Africa?[/quote]
They will as soon as they find a way to profit;-)
[quote]Ren wrote:
I mean, we advanced from that era faster than other cultures, big deal. There are a ton of reasons why that happened, saying we did it first does not make us better. [/quote]
Ever asked yourself WHY Europeans were first?
Look, if you can’t see that concepts like voting, the Rights of Man, capitalism (the first ism that did anyone any bit of good), and on and on are not sufficient evidence to show the superiority of western culture, what would?
Your profs who taught you that all cultures are equal, that Europeans are evil by nature (Ward Churchill), that the west is an exploiting evil beast, are evil and were attempting to destroy you. Kick them to the curb. Spit on them.
The United States, the most moral country on earth, was not based upon Buddha, Mohhamed, and the cultures of self-abnegation. It comes straight out of Locke, Hume, and other great men.
Ask any intelligent person if they’d rather live in Rwanda (for ex) or here.
Case closed.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Ren wrote:
I mean, we advanced from that era faster than other cultures, big deal. There are a ton of reasons why that happened, saying we did it first does not make us better.
Ever asked yourself WHY Europeans were first?
Look, if you can’t see that concepts like voting, the Rights of Man, capitalism (the first ism that did anyone any bit of good), and on and on are not sufficient evidence to show the superiority of western culture, what would?
Your profs who taught you that all cultures are equal, that Europeans are evil by nature (Ward Churchill), that the west is an exploiting evil beast, are evil and were attempting to destroy you. Kick them to the curb. Spit on them.
The United States, the most moral country on earth, was not based upon Buddha, Mohhamed, and the cultures of self-abnegation. It comes straight out of Locke, Hume, and other great men.
Ask any intelligent person if they’d rather live in Rwanda (for ex) or here.
Case closed.
[/quote]
Do you just purposefully ignore other people’s points or are you just that narrowminded?