Hi guys,
1 - 15 years back (i’m 37) in the era where info on the internet was scarce, i asked someone at a supplement store if he could give me something to give me strenght thats not a steroid. It was a big mistake. I was young and immature. A week later he gave me a prohormone called M1T. He told me its not a steroid. I didn’t know back then that it was the worst type of pro hormone that can wreak havoc.
He told me that i didn’t need to take anything else with it. I didnt understand but now i know he meant PCT.
Long story short. WHile taking it a few weeks in, i felt a strong pain in my right testicle and then i felt and saw it shrink. To this day it never came back to its original size and it feels empty. Since then i litteraly felt like i lost my right testicle.
2- Add to that a couple of propecia cycles distanced by about 8 years the last one ended 1 year and a half ago ) and now ED creeped in. Im very devastated mostly because all this is affecting me psychologically and litteraly psychologically since i read that you need DHT for proper cognitive functions. I have huge energy issues, depression and sleep problems. Strange thing is that a few years ago ( before i did a second propecia cycle) i had tested my testosterone and all the values came back high. But since the 2nd propecia cycle, i cant have an erection or morning wood (which were very frequent before.)
Question is, i know im wayy late with this but is there any possible benefit into trying a PCT now ? To maybe reverse the shrinkage and kickstart my dht issues… I guess im also wondering, do i have anything to lose. The post propecia battle is a big one since they haven’t found a cure but they suggest PCT protocol on forums for propecia users as well.
IF yes, i know your not supposed to source anything but could i have any suggestions on how to go about doing it ? Even if its through pvt messaging.
Thanks a lot in advance. I never mustered the courage to bring it up in the past but now im scared for my life. Its affecting my relationship, my mood, my work (im on disability, i had strong suicidal thoughts.) . Doctors can’t help me so far anyways.
Man, that’s a heartbreaking story. And those stories are only growing in number as more and more people are grappling with the long term effects of finasteride use.
I would recommend you get a full hormone panel done. You’re going to want to know not just what your testosterone levels are, but also LH, FSH, SHBG, etc. If you start throwing drugs at the problem without having good data you could end up a lot worse. While a SERM such as Nolvadex has some pretty mild and benign side effects, it is unwise to start taking it without some solid scientific reason. And you don’t know if that reason exists unless you get proper blood work done. That has to be your first step. Try to keep your spirits up and don’t let the darkness consume you. Get blood work, keep your mind occupied with some tasks, and focus on getting your health back to the positive side of the ledger.
Likely, your SHBG is high. Which is why your other numbers came back “high” but in reality, your free test is probably tanked.
Check e2 also.
Your 37, why not just go on TRT?
Hi.
Thank you so much for taking the time to reply. In this case, another question is, if my results come back high again but i still have erection problems/low libido due to dht , would i have anything to lose by taking, say, Nolvadex to maybe reverse the desensitization to dht and maybe improve the shrinkage.
These were my results before my 2nd propecia cycle. I guess my body had managed to recover from my 1st cycle.
Total testosterone: 26,89nmol/L Values are between: 6,90 - 27,30 nmol/L
SHBG: 52,4 Values are between: 13,2 - 89,5 nmol/L
Bio-available testoterone:11,1 nmol/L Values are between: 4,0-11,4 nmol/L
Free testosterone 0,428 nmol/L Values are between: 0,110 - 0,660 nmol/L
17B - Oestradiol <73,0 pmol/L Value for men < 120 pmol/L
I’m curious since it looks like the M1T doesnt appear to have had long term effects on the hormone profile but caused testicular shrinkage ( i am certain of).
Thanks a lot.
I don’t think its wise to do trt in my case before i check my values again. But mostly my question is based on kickstarting the dht again and possibly reverse testicular damage. I don’t trust testosterone results since it doesn’t clarify dht values. In fact, since testosterone actually increases during a finasteride cycle, i wonder if it could be that testosterone remains high but that dht sensors remain shut down thus explaining sexual side effects. Also. i’m gonna have to have the values checked again. this was 2 years ago, before 2nd propecia cycle.
Total testosterone: 26,89nmol/L Values are between: 6,90 - 27,30 nmol/L
SHBG: 52,4 Values are between: 13,2 - 89,5 nmol/L
Bio-available testoterone:11,1 nmol/L Values are between: 4,0-11,4 nmol/L
Free testosterone 0,428 nmol/L Values are between: 0,110 - 0,660 nmol/L
17B - Oestradiol <73,0 pmol/L Value for men < 120 pmol/L
Sorry your going through this. I too am shocked at the finasteride stories popping up constantly. I am 41 years old and just started for the first time, test (sust250) and finasteride. Im on my 4th week and feel ok and seem to be progressing in the gym, overall feel better, problem is, i noticed in the last week that i have zero libido…and i mean zero, also, even with the fin have noticed thinning hair? I thought the test would surely boost libido and am worried the finasteride is causing problems. O have decided to only take 1mg 3x a week instead of ed
You’re reading horror story after horror story about this drug, it isn’t really working for its intended purpose, you’re showing signs of the exact kind of nightmare side effect that it’s known for, and you’re still taking it? Can you explain why?
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