If you can afford it do the “Full Biochemistry plus Hematology” blood test so you could have all your normal, healthy reference values, and talking about hormones I would just do Test, free test, estradiol, FSH, LH and that is it. After that depending on how worried you are you can do another Full bloodwork to check your health every month, or 3 months ( like I said depends on you ) and compare to your "healthy values ", and I don’t really see the need to test your hormones again unless you go off or you really want to pinpoint perfect dosages for TRT
i came across some literature on AIs/estrogen blockers recently and i’d like to get some feedback,
basically my plan was to start with test only and if i encounter side effects like gyno then i lower the dose and add some primo.
the question is, 1) if im getting gyno no matter the test dose i inject does that mean i need to take an AI permanently as long as im injecting test?
is an AI good/useful for gyno prevention (early signs or no signs), or only once the gyno is already there, or both?
can i take nolvadex instead of arimidex to get rid of gyno?
if because of high-estrogen-related side effects im “forced” to take AIs/nolvadex over a prolonged uninterrupted period is that generally considered excessively dangerous or it depends?
Whats up started almost 2 weeks ago now, I’m doing 400mg test E spread out in 2 injections a week 4 days apart, I was wondering when I can expect to start seeing gains?
I see, I also recently started having an issue with constant chest pain and occasional shortness of breath (nothing crazy, more bothersome than painful), ended up going to the hospital to have it checked, got bloodwork done, they looked at my heart, lungs etc and said everything was fine but it’s still there. Anyone got an idea what that might be? Kinda clueless right now, I was wondering if maybe it was high estrogen
It can manifest in unusual ways. Chest pain/Shortness of breath is not an uncommon presentation. High oestrogen is associated with anxiety.
Your on 200 mgs every 11 days. Which isn’t a huge dose but could still be the cause. But you really didn’t share enough information for anyone to really have an idea of what could be going on.
Rest assured though. If the ED didn’t detect anything it isn’t likely anything serious that couldn’t be followed up with your local GP.
Which is what you should do. Go to your local GP about this issue and not on an internet forum. Best of luck and stay safe.
Yes, its popular.
GH is injected daily or sometimes twice a day… Insulin is injected at least once a day, sometimes two, but some people take it with every meal.
When i was experimenting with low dose test injections ED, i was doing test, slin and GH, total of 90 pins a month.
Doing something once a day is really not that big of a deal.
Also, there are diabetics who take insulin with every meal their whole damn lives. Dbol doesnt look so bad now, does it?
Yea, its just like cooking and eating all the meals…
I take my post-workout meal with my insulin syringe with me in the bag. Finish the gym, pin slin, eat.
Hard to tell as when i was doing glutes IM, i had such a scar tissue buildup over the years it was like injecting into a wall… sometimes i needed my whole power and really push on the plunger for 10mins straight to get in 1CC… the syringe never broke in any way… so id say is probably shitty syringe…
p.s - a life hack of daily micro injections is using insulin needles… those are very small, but you can only do shoulders and quads with those imo.
quick update i’m not making any progress on 500mg of test E/week and i’m starting to wonder if i just have a horrible genetic response or the dose is too low for my body type or something, the test is somewhat underdosed (230ish) but still, im eating the same foods i ate before gear, more even, force feeding often, i train with a lot of volume, lots of dropsets, sets to failure etc. + getting good sleep, i’m thinking of trying a different lab, any tips?
How do you know? If you can’t grow on 500mg test I’d look at diet/training first. I forget if you’re at your mass-building limit or not tho
Edit: here’s what I’d do if you “think” you’re eating enough/more/whatever. Calculate your TDEE first, can even go in and get BMR checked and then add on activity from that. Track all your calories in an app, be honest with yourself, and see which of those numbers is bigger.
2nd update, so pretty big mindfuck here, my natural weight pre-gear was 112kg. i’m currently 121, body fat is actually slightly lower than before, yet i dont feel or look bigger or stronger. i have no clue whats going on lol is it water retention?
Also i read on the forums about “test flu” and turns out this happens to me almost every pin (250mg of test E weekly currently). Big swelling and pain in the glutes, and feeling feverish in the following 48 to 72h. Any tips on how to deal with this?
no only thing i measure is my weight on the scale in the morning after going to the bathroom once or twice fasted + how lean i look (eye-test). i’ve recently been focusing on mainly calisthenics so my strength is roughly the same as before on most exercises, slightly less on some, but since i’ve gone up 10kg on the sale i guess that would mean i’m stronger?
i’m not aware of allergies to the oil but i definitely am open to trying a different ester cuz i dont wanna deal with this stuff every week.