It’s better to vote for someone who loses an election, than to vote for someone who loses 2 wars at once.
Wreckless
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And if your “man” won he would have won the war? Riiiiight!
No, he wouldn’t have gone over there to fight, he would have waited until it came back again and again to the US. So then we would be defending ourselves on our own soil instead of trashing someone else’s country. Yea, that makes sense!
It’s better to vote for someone who loses an election, than to vote for someone who loses 2 wars at once.
Wreckless
And if your “man” won he would have won the war? Riiiiight!
No, he wouldn’t have gone over there to fight, he would have waited until it came back again and again to the US. So then we would be defending ourselves on our own soil instead of trashing someone else’s country. Yea, that makes sense!
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So whatever a republican administration fucks up, the imaginary democrats in your head would have done far worse?
It’s better to vote for someone who loses an election, than to vote for someone who loses 2 wars at once.
Wreckless
And if your “man” won he would have won the war? Riiiiight!
No, he wouldn’t have gone over there to fight, he would have waited until it came back again and again to the US. So then we would be defending ourselves on our own soil instead of trashing someone else’s country. Yea, that makes sense!
So whatever a republican administration fucks up, the imaginary democrats in your head would have done far worse?
Those “liberals” cant win, cantt they?[/quote]
No, what I’m saying is that as bad as it is there were not a lot of good options after 911. And as unpopular as this war now is there are still some good things that have come as a result.
Not sure why people think war should be dictated by the short lived memories of people who take their freedom for granted? Today’s attitudes about Iraq seem to be similar to what was reported during Vietnam. Maybe you can line up with Hillary and spit on the soldiers coming home from Iraq?
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Maybe you can line up with Hillary and spit on the soldiers coming home from Iraq?[/quote]
Hey there Mercutio, do you think you could put a bit more spin on that? Like NutHunter, try not to let your fear and hatred get the best of your senses.
Come on, if Hillary were to spit on anyone it would probably be Bush or Cheney during a PPV event.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Maybe you can line up with Hillary and spit on the soldiers coming home from Iraq?
Hey there Mercutio, do you think you could put a bit more spin on that? Like NutHunter, try not to let your fear and hatred get the best of your senses.
Come on, if Hillary were to spit on anyone it would probably be Bush or Cheney during a PPV event.[/quote]
You’re right; she probably would only spit on the Jews calling them dirty Jews. Sorry, my mistake.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
You’re right; she probably would only spit on the Jews calling them dirty Jews. Sorry, my mistake.
And I thought your last post made you sound ignorant and stupid. Anything else to offer on the subject, you seem to be on a roll![/quote]
Vroom,
Why are you defending someone who made such a statement? I know you’re trying to appear as a moderate and a rational person, but you’re defending someone who makes anti-semitic comments. Why? Does this mean that you agree with her?
I know some people speak this way and I swear once in a while, but this woman is an anti-semite. Yet she wins NY…go figure.[/quote]
DO you realize how many “foot in mouth” statements our president has made? How many times he’s said something completely racist, and gotten off? How many times he’s brutalized the english language?
And we still elected him.
Obviously, a few verbal fuck-ups don’t matter so much.
She’s not making anti-semitic policy. She’s not making speeches against Jews. She’s not avoiding appointing Jews to positions she controls.
So if a bunch of people SAY they heard her say an anti-semitic comment, why the hell should we take it seriously?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Why are you defending someone who made such a statement? I know you’re trying to appear as a moderate and a rational person, but you’re defending someone who makes anti-semitic comments. Why? Does this mean that you agree with her?
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Come on Nuthunter, you are using schoolyard arguing tactics here. Surely you can do better than this?
Tell me, where in this thread did I say something nice about Hillary? Tell me, where in this thread did I say Hillary did or did not say something?
You are letting your fear and hatred consume your brain.
I am simply pointing out the level of moronic “thinking” being carried out by you and Lorisco. To equate that with sticking up for Hillary is more than a little weak.
However, I guess that is the best I can expect from such fervent blind fools as you two… keep on pushing your political spin and diatribe you utterly incompetent dupes.
Sniff, sniff, I know some of you guys cry about how much I use the word spin, but seriously, stop pushing it and I’ll be able to stop pointing it out. In the mean time, buy some tissues you pussies.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Why are you defending someone who made such a statement? I know you’re trying to appear as a moderate and a rational person, but you’re defending someone who makes anti-semitic comments. Why? Does this mean that you agree with her?
Come on Nuthunter, you are using schoolyard arguing tactics here. Surely you can do better than this?
Tell me, where in this thread did I say something nice about Hillary? Tell me, where in this thread did I say Hillary did or did not say something?
You are letting your fear and hatred consume your brain.
I am simply pointing out the level of moronic “thinking” being carried out by you and Lorisco. To equate that with sticking up for Hillary is more than a little weak.
However, I guess that is the best I can expect from such fervent blind fools as you two… keep on pushing your political spin and diatribe you utterly incompetent dupes.
Sniff, sniff, I know some of you guys cry about how much I use the word spin, but seriously, stop pushing it and I’ll be able to stop pointing it out. In the mean time, buy some tissues you pussies.[/quote]
Nope, Inspector, we’re pointing out facts and you’re telling us that we’re besmirching her character.
Did you click the link? Many in my family are Jewish and I find her comments highly offensive (even if none of my family was). You do not?
[quote]vroom wrote:
I am simply pointing out the level of moronic “thinking” being carried out by you and Lorisco. To equate that with sticking up for Hillary is more than a little weak.
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And just what is moronic about pointing the facts about Hillary? She did say those things, it’s fact. So why is that moronic to point it out? Doubt you would say it moronic if I was pointing out some racists thing GW stated. Maybe you should drop your own spin before you accuse others of the same thing.
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Bush - Killed Saddam Hussein, then proceeded to fuck up the nation he once controlled so horribly.
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You need to check your facts Bro, the Iraq people killed Saddam, not Bush. The Iraq government put him on trial, convicted him, and executed him. The US was not involved in that.
Guys, there is a difference between facts and hyperbole.
If you want to claim you are “just” pointing out facts you’ll have to drop the supposition, hype and hyperbole you added on top of it… though I doubt you even see it.
Anyway Nuthunter, you’ve failed to realize that not once have I stood up for Hillary, instead calling her Billary. I don’t particularly like her… so it’s funny that you’d imagine me to be trying to support her when I’m not.
Again, try to find an example of me support her in this thread. You can’t go attacking me for supporting her when I suggest you have nothing to back up your wild claims.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
And just what is moronic about pointing the facts about Hillary? She did say those things, it’s fact. So why is that moronic to point it out? Doubt you would say it moronic if I was pointing out some racists thing GW stated. Maybe you should drop your own spin before you accuse others of the same thing.[/quote]
It’s not enough for you that Nuthunter is chief retard, you have to climb aboard as well?
I’m sure Hillary has made distasteful statements. A lot of people have. However, claiming she is a Nazi or such wild nonsense is not the same as stating facts.
Maybe you should figure out where the facts end and the hyperbole starts? The spin isn’t pointing out that she has said things that many people may not like to hear… and I would not be pointing out spin and hyperbole if that was all that was stated.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Bush - Killed Saddam Hussein, then proceeded to fuck up the nation he once controlled so horribly.
You need to check your facts Bro, the Iraq people killed Saddam, not Bush. The Iraq government put him on trial, convicted him, and executed him. The US was not involved in that. [/quote]
Sigh… ok, I spoke a bit figuratively. He was killed AFTER Bush fucked up Iraq too.
But Bush is as much an asshole…He’s suspended Habeas Corpus. He’s gained the right to torture.
Just so you know, this isn’t the first time Habeas Corpus has been suspended.
During the Civil War, President Lincoln
suspended it. Wanna know why?
I always wonder why this argument is always supposed to be good for Bush, but not bad for Lincoln.[/quote]
Because…Lincoln is up for sainthood didn’t you hear. I always think to myself how amusing it would be if a man like Lincoln actually ran today. The way people are, he’d get nowhere I think. Not that he got anywhere first time or even second or third on the horse in his day. Took him awhile didn’t it.
He was assassinated and we all know this, but what I wonder about, is why nobody pays attention to say… James A. Garfield. Granted he was only president for all of about …six months? Yet, he was assassinated as well, everybody could tell you the man who shot Lincoln, but could anybody fire off who shot Garfield? I don’t think anybody even knows there was a president Garfield, they all think its a comic strip cat, and I tell you what… its a shitty comic at that.
What I find most interesting about Garfield’s assassination is that they called on Alexander Graham Bell to locate the bullets in his body (good thing he was in town for a pint?) and thus he invented the first metal detector ever. He was not successful however in detecting or aiding in removal of the bullets and Garfield did perish. It was the interference of the metal bedsprings that hindered the process. They weren’t common in that day, but thats where he lay.
As for Hillary, she frightens me. I’m pretty sure its to do with the Uncanny valley factor.
[quote]vroom wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
And just what is moronic about pointing the facts about Hillary? She did say those things, it’s fact. So why is that moronic to point it out? Doubt you would say it moronic if I was pointing out some racists thing GW stated. Maybe you should drop your own spin before you accuse others of the same thing.
It’s not enough for you that Nuthunter is chief retard, you have to climb aboard as well?
I’m sure Hillary has made distasteful statements. A lot of people have. However, claiming she is a Nazi or such wild nonsense is not the same as stating facts.
Maybe you should figure out where the facts end and the hyperbole starts? The spin isn’t pointing out that she has said things that many people may not like to hear… and I would not be pointing out spin and hyperbole if that was all that was stated.
Idiot #2.[/quote]
The people of Germany didn’t take Hitler’s antisemitism very seriously, just like you.
"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy.
Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 234
Nah, she’s not anti-semitic. She’d be fine running the most powerful country on earth. You’re just so right, Inspector Clouseau…
[quote]vroom wrote:
It’s not enough for you that Nuthunter is chief retard, you have to climb aboard as well?
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Well, you will have to move over for me to do that!
Do you think you will ever stop the spin? In my posts just where did I use the word Nazi? You are the one implying things that are not stated to make your point; or spin your point.
I said Hillary made a racist statement, that’s it. All that other embellishment you just made up, like most everything you spit out. Cut the crap!
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… and I would not be pointing out spin and hyperbole if that was all that was stated.
Idiot #2.[/quote]
And yet that is exactly what you just did. I guess demoting yourself to #2 was premature. To me you will always be #1!
[quote]Beowolf wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Bush - Killed Saddam Hussein, then proceeded to fuck up the nation he once controlled so horribly.
You need to check your facts Bro, the Iraq people killed Saddam, not Bush. The Iraq government put him on trial, convicted him, and executed him. The US was not involved in that.
Sigh… ok, I spoke a bit figuratively. He was killed AFTER Bush fucked up Iraq too.
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But would he have been caught and executed if Bush hadn’t “fucked up Iraq”?