I consider myself more on the left side of things but it would take a pretty shitty opponent to make me vote for hillary.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The people of Germany didn’t take Hitler’s antisemitism very seriously, just like you.
"The struggle for world domination will be fought entirely between us, between Germans and Jews. All else is facade and illusion. Behind England stands Israel, and behind France, and behind the United States. Even when we have driven the Jew out of Germany, he remains our world enemy.
- Rauschning, Hitler Speaks, p. 234
Nah, she’s not anti-semitic. She’d be fine running the most powerful country on earth. You’re just so right, Inspector Clouseau…[/quote]
If you are seriously trying to equate Hillary with Hitler you are a raving lunatic.
Please, please, find me a book or some official statement coming from her that supports these views. Seriously, if it existed it would be damned significant.
All you have is suggestive bullshit woven out of speculation, innuendo and unfortunate statements. Maybe you can’t tell the difference, but as has been said in this thread, she is not proposing anti-semitic policies as far as I’m aware.
If I thought it was true I would strongly denounce her and her views… don’t even pretend I’m sticking up for her you deluded fool.
By all means, if you have evidence or proof then trot it out. However, what I imagine I will see is more libelous crap hiding behind the fact that she is a public figure.
It’s shameful to watch.
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Do you think you will ever stop the spin? In my posts just where did I use the word Nazi? You are the one implying things that are not stated to make your point; or spin your point.
I said Hillary made a racist statement, that’s it. All that other embellishment you just made up, like most everything you spit out. Cut the crap!
[/quote]
Oh, perhaps you did not actually read the crap that Headhunter has spewed? Did you not notice the title of this thread?
If you are going to join a thread late and support an idiot like Nuthunter, don’t be surprised if people think that you are agreeing with some of the crap he has written.
Moron.
Again, if you are going to jump into an argument between myself and Nuthunter, to support Nuthunter, don’t be surprised if you appear to be aligning yourself with statements he’s been making.
Alternately, perhaps you should more carefully review the thread and the topic at hand before jumping into the middle of it?
[quote]Lorisco wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
Bush - Killed Saddam Hussein, then proceeded to fuck up the nation he once controlled so horribly.
You need to check your facts Bro, the Iraq people killed Saddam, not Bush. The Iraq government put him on trial, convicted him, and executed him. The US was not involved in that.
Sigh… ok, I spoke a bit figuratively. He was killed AFTER Bush fucked up Iraq too.
But would he have been caught and executed if Bush hadn’t “fucked up Iraq”?
[/quote]
Nope.
I don’t see how this helps your argument.
He still fucked up a country and spread our military unnecessarily, went in with no post-war plan, and ignored the advice of a majority of his generals.
Regardless of whether you think going into Iraq was right or wrong, he still fucked it up.
My favorite t-shirt
I wish I had one with Vrooms face on it.
[quote]vroom wrote:
P.S. If I had a lawyer, and he or she died, I might want some sensitive documents back too… it’s not that hard to imagine and hardly incriminating, halfwit.
P.P.S. Remind me again how much of a fan Ken Starr was of the Clintons… so that he’d work to cover up impropriety on their part. [/quote]
Vince Foster has some company!
*Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened to many
"friends"of the Clintons .
1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an
apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key
witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered
July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder
**happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual
harassment in the White House.
3- Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of
Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound
to the head, ruled a suicide.
4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman.
Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close
to the
investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull
resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being
investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal
with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few
days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.
5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund
raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found
dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by
Clinton as a “Dear friend and trusted advisor”.
7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in
the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey
died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton
groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was
involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in
Little Rock . Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside
Little Rock . Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton .
He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the
files were mysteriously removed from his house.
9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he
had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people
who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas .
10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging
suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.
11-Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was
found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her
head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed
suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a
co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit
Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy
Ferguson . Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found
dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave
site of his fiancee.
13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton 's friend Dan Lassater,
died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His
client was a convicted drug distributor.
**
14-Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was
related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of
three gunshot wounds.
15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he
was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the
head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978
until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.
17-Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport
and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists,
apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport
with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet
June 22, 1993 in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to
Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust
Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington , Virginia apartment
balcony August 15, 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty
scandal.
20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron
Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996 .
Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department
of Commerce.
21-Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang
special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane
crash.
22-Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother,
stepfather and brother.
23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.
24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill
Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead
after his car had hit a utility pole.
25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a
purported suicide and his report was never released.
26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1,
1994 when his plane exploded.
27-Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as “The boys on the track” case.
Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport
drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death
said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2
boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to
the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
29-Keith McMaskle ??? Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash
Dump in April 1989.
32-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his
death was due to “natural causes”.
33-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his
pickup truck in June 1990.
34-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed
in a set-up robbery July 1989.
THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:
36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.
37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds
38-Sgt. Brian Hanley
39-Sgt. Tim Sabel
40-Major General William Robertson
41-Col. William Densberger
42-Col. Robert Kelly
43-Spec. Gary Rhodes
44-Steve Willis
45-Robert Williams
46-Conway LeBleu
47-Todd McKeehan
I’m sure it’s all coincidental though.
Just food for thought.
But then, I for one would prefer to be viewed as batshit crazy.
Food for “thought”… ahahahahaha… the irony.
I liked this part of the snopes page:
We shouldn’t have to tell anyone not to believe this claptrap, but we will anyway.
This should also be illumination for people that aren’t so consumed with fear and hatred that they can still actually think:
[i]
Thompson said her allegations of murder “seem groundless only because the mainstream media haven’t done enough digging.”
Ah, but they had. If not before she put her list together, at least afterwards. Anyone who continues to state the mainstream media has given these claims short shrift is being disingenuous.
Since 1994, various respected news outlets have been confronted with versions of the “Clinton Body Count” list, run their own investigations of a few of the claims, and found nothing to substantiate what they looked into. Those investigations would culminate in yet another story about an oddball conspiracy rumor.
But conspiracy theories don’t die that easily.
[/i]
Anyway, keep in mind, you folks so willing to swallow this crap are the same that get all upset if someone were to imply that something Bush did or does was not appropriate.
Funny how your heros are perfect and your villains are ultimate evil, isn’t it? Maybe both should be meeting somewhere in the middle?
[quote]vroom wrote:
Lorisco wrote:
Do you think you will ever stop the spin? In my posts just where did I use the word Nazi? You are the one implying things that are not stated to make your point; or spin your point.
I said Hillary made a racist statement, that’s it. All that other embellishment you just made up, like most everything you spit out. Cut the crap!
Oh, perhaps you did not actually read the crap that Headhunter has spewed? Did you not notice the title of this thread?
If you are going to join a thread late and support an idiot like Nuthunter, don’t be surprised if people think that you are agreeing with some of the crap he has written.
Moron.
… and I would not be pointing out spin and hyperbole if that was all that was stated.
Idiot #2.
And yet that is exactly what you just did. I guess demoting yourself to #2 was premature. To me you will always be #1!
Again, if you are going to jump into an argument between myself and Nuthunter, to support Nuthunter, don’t be surprised if you appear to be aligning yourself with statements he’s been making.
Alternately, perhaps you should more carefully review the thread and the topic at hand before jumping into the middle of it?
[/quote]
Vroom, cut the crap! I never mentioned headhunter in any of my posts. I don’t always agree with him. But if I do I say it. I base my support based on the position/argument not who is making it. Recall there have actually been times that I have agreed with you (hurts me to say).
So I jumped in and supported the truth and you don’t like it. Stop whining and admit billary (I like that) is a communist Nazi who wants to set up a master race of lesbian bitches that hate Jews!
[quote]derek wrote:
My favorite t-shirt
I wish I had one with Vrooms face on it.[/quote]
Priceless!
[quote]vroom wrote:
Food for “thought”… ahahahahaha… the irony.
I liked this part of the snopes page:
We shouldn’t have to tell anyone not to believe this claptrap, but we will anyway.
This should also be illumination for people that aren’t so consumed with fear and hatred that they can still actually think:
[i]
Thompson said her allegations of murder “seem groundless only because the mainstream media haven’t done enough digging.”
Ah, but they had. If not before she put her list together, at least afterwards. Anyone who continues to state the mainstream media has given these claims short shrift is being disingenuous.
Since 1994, various respected news outlets have been confronted with versions of the “Clinton Body Count” list, run their own investigations of a few of the claims, and found nothing to substantiate what they looked into. Those investigations would culminate in yet another story about an oddball conspiracy rumor.
But conspiracy theories don’t die that easily.
[/i]
Anyway, keep in mind, you folks so willing to swallow this crap are the same that get all upset if someone were to imply that something Bush did or does was not appropriate.
Funny how your heros are perfect and your villains are ultimate evil, isn’t it? Maybe both should be meeting somewhere in the middle?[/quote]
Seems as if the list is full of details and you’re answer is: “Its not true! Its all lies! Its conspiracy theory!!”
Your opinion has no bearing on facts. The facts exist even if you don’t want them to, Vroom.
Just for fun: how many people around you have died under all these circumstances; shot, hung, and so forth? It does seem as if the Clintons have some sort of bad karma, eh?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Your opinion has no bearing on facts. The facts exist even if you don’t want them to, Vroom.
Just for fun: how many people around you have died under all these circumstances; shot, hung, and so forth? It does seem as if the Clintons have some sort of bad karma, eh?
[/quote]
Exactly (oooops, I’m HH’s bitch AGAIN!).
Maybe there’s a list like that for GW. and Laura. If anyone can come up with one, print it here, PLEASE.
If you’re into statistical analysis, this should scare the HELL out of you if you happen to be associated with those two.
[quote]derek wrote:
If you’re into statistical analysis, this should scare the HELL out of you if you happen to be associated with those two.
[/quote]
Not really. If you were to count the number of people with professional, personal and incidental relationships to an average person, a the number for a politician of the highest ranks is at least a couple orders of magnitude higher. If proportions hold, and the average person knows three people who die within a span of twenty years, such a politician would know 300.
I don’t like either Clinton, but I have a hard time buying into the conspiracy theory.
[quote]nephorm wrote:
I don’t like either Clinton, but I have a hard time buying into the conspiracy theory.[/quote]
Conspiracy? No. Scary (to me anyway, YES!)
Not that I like Hillary Clinton or whatever, and I’ve already said I won’t vote for her, but really fellas, you think making disparaging remarks about Jews is really going to shoot down her campaign?
I would venture to say that most of the country is not fond of Jews, because most folks are a lot more racist than they like to admit. They might decry it publicly, but privately they don’t care.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Not that I like Hillary Clinton or whatever, and I’ve already said I won’t vote for her, but really fellas, you think making disparaging remarks about Jews is really going to shoot down her campaign?
I would venture to say that most of the country is not fond of Jews, because most folks are a lot more racist than they like to admit. They might decry it publicly, but privately they don’t care.[/quote]
I certainly HOPE that’s not the case but if it were, I cannot for the life of me see what there is to dislike about Jews. Or blacks, or gays or anything else I am not.
Is racism/bigitry not the most ignorant, self-destructive “feeling” on the planet?
[quote]derek wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Not that I like Hillary Clinton or whatever, and I’ve already said I won’t vote for her, but really fellas, you think making disparaging remarks about Jews is really going to shoot down her campaign?
I would venture to say that most of the country is not fond of Jews, because most folks are a lot more racist than they like to admit. They might decry it publicly, but privately they don’t care.
I certainly HOPE that’s not the case but if it were, I cannot for the life of me see what there is to dislike about Jews. Or blacks, or gays or anything else I am not.
Is racism/bigitry not the most ignorant, self-destructive “feeling” on the planet?
[/quote]
I started this thread because the Dems are the most racist and bigoted of the 2 major parties. They play the black voters like a violin. They play up to gays as if Republicans want to kill all of them. They also play off rich against poor, making stupid assertions and playing on class jealousy.
Look at how they demagogued the tax cuts and GWB’s attempt to reform Social Security.
The Dems win when America loses. So, that’s what they promote.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
derek wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
Not that I like Hillary Clinton or whatever, and I’ve already said I won’t vote for her, but really fellas, you think making disparaging remarks about Jews is really going to shoot down her campaign?
I would venture to say that most of the country is not fond of Jews, because most folks are a lot more racist than they like to admit. They might decry it publicly, but privately they don’t care.
I certainly HOPE that’s not the case but if it were, I cannot for the life of me see what there is to dislike about Jews. Or blacks, or gays or anything else I am not.
Is racism/bigitry not the most ignorant, self-destructive “feeling” on the planet?
I started this thread because the Dems are the most racist and bigoted of the 2 major parties. They play the black voters like a violin. They play up to gays as if Republicans want to kill all of them. They also play off rich against poor, making stupid assertions and playing on class jealousy.
Look at how they demagogued the tax cuts and GWB’s attempt to reform Social Security.
The Dems win when America loses. So, that’s what they promote.
[/quote]
You started this thread because you feel the need to share your looney theories about politics at every turn.
Everything you just wrote is absolute bullshit that only a fool would believe…there are no such things as absolutes, and even I realize that the Republicans, as much as I dislike them, don’t want America to lose or fall or whatevr the hell else you’re saying. Netheir do the Democrats.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
…there are no such things as absolutes, and even I realize that the Republicans, as much as I dislike them, don’t want America to lose or fall or whatevr the hell else you’re saying. Netheir do the Democrats.[/quote]
Are you absolutely sure there are no absolutes? 
Didn’t the Dems win because the war appears to be going badly?
[quote]pookie wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
“Fucking Jew Bastard!” is a very famous Hillary Clinton quote. This is, of course, anti-semitism. Just one of her gems…
Maybe she was addressing a Jewish gentleman, born out of wedlock, who was at that time engaged in intercourse?
You always assume the worst.
[/quote]
You always side with the liberal anti-semites.
How’s it hanging at MU?