Heil Hillary?

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[quote]nephorm wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
He’s suspended Habeas Corpus.

No, he hasn’t.[/quote]

He can legally imprison anyone who “may be a terrorist” without trial.

What if he decides that I’m a terrorist? Or that you are?

Just because it’s not being abused now doesn’t mean it won’t be abused later.

And as for the Lincoln argument, he was wrong to do so. But like I’ve said in the past. Lincoln put it back when he was done. Lincoln was a responsible driver who broke the speed limit to catch a runaway crook. Bush is a drunk driver whose hit three kids and an old lady trying to catch an invisible pink elephant.

I still disagree with Lincolns decision to suspend Habeas Corpus. It was wrong. But as always, hindsight is different than what was going on at the time.

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[quote]Beowolf wrote:
nephorm wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
He’s suspended Habeas Corpus.

No, he hasn’t.

He can legally imprison anyone who “may be a terrorist” without trial.

What if he decides that I’m a terrorist? Or that you are?

Just because it’s not being abused now doesn’t mean it won’t be abused later.

And as for the Lincoln argument, he was wrong to do so. But like I’ve said in the past. Lincoln put it back when he was done. Lincoln was a responsible driver who broke the speed limit to catch a runaway crook. Bush is a drunk driver whose hit three kids and an old lady trying to catch an invisible pink elephant.

I still disagree with Lincolns decision to suspend Habeas Corpus. It was wrong. But as always, hindsight is different than what was going on at the time.[/quote]

Lincoln also arrested newspaper editors, mayors, legislators, anyone who Stanton had on his ‘list’. Yet we love him endearingly…

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Cunnivore wrote:
Dear Wulfy,

You voted for some loser.

Cunnivore

Dear Cunnivore,

It’s better to vote for someone who loses an election, than to vote for someone who loses 2 wars at once.

Wreckless

[/quote]

reckless,

You are my favorite troll. Congrats.

Serious question: Are you from belgium? Do you live in belgium currently?

Thanks in advance.

JeffR

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[quote]Wreckless wrote:
Cunnivore wrote:
Dear Wulfy,

You voted for some loser.

Cunnivore

Dear Cunnivore,

It’s better to vote for someone who loses an election, than to vote for someone who loses 2 wars at once.

Wreckless

[/quote]

Being Belgian you have extensive experience in losing wars.

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Can’t be worse than Bush or Bubba.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
nephorm wrote:
Beowolf wrote:
He’s suspended Habeas Corpus.

No, he hasn’t.

He can legally imprison anyone who “may be a terrorist” without trial.

What if he decides that I’m a terrorist? Or that you are?

Just because it’s not being abused now doesn’t mean it won’t be abused later.

And as for the Lincoln argument, he was wrong to do so. But like I’ve said in the past. Lincoln put it back when he was done. Lincoln was a responsible driver who broke the speed limit to catch a runaway crook. Bush is a drunk driver whose hit three kids and an old lady trying to catch an invisible pink elephant.

I still disagree with Lincolns decision to suspend Habeas Corpus. It was wrong. But as always, hindsight is different than what was going on at the time.

Lincoln also arrested newspaper editors, mayors, legislators, anyone who Stanton had on his ‘list’. Yet we love him endearingly…

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Lincoln - Kept the Union together, “freed” the slaves, talked about giving former slaves suffrage, was shot and basically martyred, tall, imposing, noble figure, made recognizable speeches, was all for forgiving the South and having an easy re entrance plan.

This is why he is remembered in such a good light. Regardless of whether you believe he was right or wrong, he is remembered the way he is for a reason.

Bush - Killed Saddam Hussein, then proceeded to fuck up the nation he once controlled so horribly.

Just like Lincoln, he went into a war with one goal and ended up doing some other oral “good”. Unlike Lincoln, his original reason sucked, and he fucked up the end result.

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Shit, I can’t believe I gave Nuthunter a little yellow brick road back to reality land and he spurned it.

What a joke!

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Shit, I can’t believe I gave Nuthunter a little yellow brick road back to reality land and he spurned it.

What a joke![/quote]

Are you the Wicked Witch of the North? I thought you were Inspector Clouseau.

Instead of writing your shit, prove me wrong. Point out the good things that our future President has done, that so convinces you of her goodness. Maybe you haven’t because you can’t…?

Vince Foster believed in her and became her bed-buddy. Ask HIM about her…wait, you can’t…he took a trunk ride to a D.C. park.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Instead of writing your shit, prove me wrong. Point out the good things that our future President has done, that so convinces you of her goodness. Maybe you haven’t because you can’t…?
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Dude, you are following some right wing blather hook, line and sinker. In any case, I don’t particularly like Hillary.

Again, for the criminally insane, I’m not trying to defend her so much as let you know how much of a loser you sound like.

You’ll regain a semblance of credibility when you stop throwing around wild accusations and bullshit. So, I guess now you are willing to slide every accusation leveled at Clinton over to Hillary now?

Dude, you sound like you have some deep seated irrational fear. Maybe you should seek professional help?

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Instead of writing your shit, prove me wrong. Point out the good things that our future President has done, that so convinces you of her goodness. Maybe you haven’t because you can’t…?

Dude, you are following some right wing blather hook, line and sinker. In any case, I don’t particularly like Hillary.

Again, for the criminally insane, I’m not trying to defend her so much as let you know how much of a loser you sound like.

Vince Foster believed in her and became her bed-buddy. Ask HIM about her…wait, you can’t…he took a trunk ride to a D.C. park.

You’ll regain a semblance of credibility when you stop throwing around wild accusations and bullshit. So, I guess now you are willing to slide every accusation leveled at Clinton over to Hillary now?

Dude, you sound like you have some deep seated irrational fear. Maybe you should seek professional help?[/quote]

Wild accusations? There’s no record of Mr. Foster signing out of the White House compound, one of the most heavily guarded compounds on earth. He turns up in a DC park, with apparent suicide as his final act. How’d he get out?

You try to give the appearance of being level-headed. But…you can’t be level headed when confronting evil. You can’t have a conversation with evil. You can’t compromise with an evil person, since you have nothing to gain and they have everything to gain.

Why is that irrational? Because I fear for my country? If that’s irrational, make the most of it.

HH

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Wild accusations? There’s no record of Mr. Foster signing out of the White House compound, one of the most heavily guarded compounds on earth. He turns up in a DC park, with apparent suicide as his final act. How’d he get out?
[/quote]

So, among all the people who were officially on the grounds at the time, you think Hillary dragged him out and killed him personally?

You think that’s likely do you?

Do you have any evidence of evil? I mean, Cheney/Bush gives a pretty credible appearance of evil if you try to invent conspiracies. You think Hillary is evil but the current idiots in the White House are saints?

You think that’s likely, do you?

I fear for your country too, but mostly because there are complete fucking wing-nuts like yourself who are bought and paid for with the cheapest slanderous political propaganda.

If you have anything of substance (you do know what the word substance means?) then bring it out. Throwing around supposition and innuendo is the domain of infotainment… and only retards believe that stuff.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Wild accusations? There’s no record of Mr. Foster signing out of the White House compound, one of the most heavily guarded compounds on earth. He turns up in a DC park, with apparent suicide as his final act. How’d he get out?

So, among all the people who were officially on the grounds at the time, you think Hillary dragged him out and killed him personally?

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Dragged him? He was killed in the White House and removed in a trunk.

You’re willing to condemn any conservative at the slightest hint of anything out of the ordinary, but won’t condemn Hillary or Bill. A fountain of consistency there, Inspector.

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[quote]vroom wrote:
I fear for your country too, but mostly because there are complete fucking wing-nuts like yourself who are bought and paid for with the cheapest slanderous political propaganda.

If you have anything of substance (you do know what the word substance means?) then bring it out. Throwing around supposition and innuendo is the domain of infotainment… and only retards believe that stuff.[/quote]

Vroom’s going rabbit hunting with a tank…

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Dragged him? He was killed in the White House and removed in a trunk.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/12/4/04312.shtml[/quote]

Where does this article say anything about being removed in a trunk? In fact, what the article cleverly does is draw a lot of startling sounding conclusions that don’t actually mean much.

For example, a wooded park but no grass stains. Well, do people in parks usually walk on sidewalks and are there any in this park? Do people usually stain their shoes while walking on grass? Personally, when I walk, I lift up one of my feet. I can, however, imagine than you drag your feet when you walk.

Also, there are often conflicting opinions during most investigations. The talk about the fact that some things are consistent with a murder scene vs a suicide scene is silly. You’ll also notice that no details were provided about what this meant… why might that be?

The whole article stinks of clever half facts meant to sound incriminating. Are you too stupid to see this?

Nuthunter, I see you continue to try to turn this around. I am not the one making baseless wild accusations and raving like a lunatic. If and when I do so you are welcome to inform me of that fact.

I don’t like Hillary, or Billary as she is often called. I don’t know who, if anyone, killed this guy, and neither does anybody else.

Apparently, you don’t actually need anything approaching evidence, you just believe whatever the hell you like and sling accusations around based on any old suspect source.

Stop making such an ass out of yourself. You should know better than to just go believing any shit you read on the Internet.

P.S. If I had a lawyer, and he or she died, I might want some sensitive documents back too… it’s not that hard to imagine and hardly incriminating, halfwit.

P.P.S. Remind me again how much of a fan Ken Starr was of the Clintons… so that he’d work to cover up impropriety on their part. You know, this guy:

Kenneth Winston Starr (born July 21, 1946) is an American lawyer and former judge who was appointed to the Office of the Independent Counsel to investigate the death of the deputy White House counsel Vince Foster and the Whitewater land transactions by President Bill Clinton. He later submitted to Congress the Starr Report, which led to Clinton’s impeachment on charges arising from the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

P.P.P.S. Stop wasting oxygen. Other people might be able to put it to good use.

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[quote]vroom wrote:

P.P.P.S. Stop wasting oxygen. Other people might be able to put it to good use.[/quote]

Wow, wishing me to DIE now Vroomie? Maybe Hillary could use someone like you on her team when she takes over. She’ll give you an armband and you can sit in a guard tower.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Wow, wishing me to DIE now Vroomie? Maybe Hillary could use someone like you on her team when she takes over. She’ll give you an armband and you can sit in a guard tower.[/quote]

I don’t wish you’d die, I wish you’d stop wasting oxygen.

Anyway, funny how you perennial refuse to address any issues raised and childishly focus on trollish little issues instead, isn’t it?

Don’t let your fear turn you into that which you despise. Oh, never mind, too late.

P.S. Moron Puzzle: Can you think of a way to stop wasting oxygen other than not being alive anymore?

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[quote]vroom wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Wow, wishing me to DIE now Vroomie? Maybe Hillary could use someone like you on her team when she takes over. She’ll give you an armband and you can sit in a guard tower.

I don’t wish you’d die, I wish you’d stop wasting oxygen.

Anyway, funny how you perennial refuse to address any issues raised and childishly focus on trollish little issues instead, isn’t it?

Don’t let your fear turn you into that which you despise. Oh, never mind, too late.

P.S. Moron Puzzle: Can you think of a way to stop wasting oxygen other than not being alive anymore?[/quote]

I rarely have discussions with someone who wishes me to die. Is that what you mean about saving oxygen?

Anyway, I gave you a list w/o the trunk stuff so that you would asiduously study the link looking for it. It worked, though the long list didn’t convince you. You’re immune to facts and evidence. IT is fun arguing with you though, Inspector, though you are a waste of space.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Vroom wrote:

P.S. Moron Puzzle: Can you think of a way to stop wasting oxygen other than not being alive anymore?

I rarely have discussions with someone who wishes me to die. Is that what you mean about saving oxygen?
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Are you really this idiotic. Have you had a stroke recently or something? If so, I’ll stop picking on your mental state.

If you have a good link you might want to provide it. The list you provided is neither filled with facts nor evidence.

It is filled with supposition and innuendo. Those aren’t quite the same things. Perhaps, once you’ve cross referenced it against some infotainment spouted by Coulter or others of that ilk it might start to feel weighty?

Again, are you really this stupid? You are making a complete and utter buffoon out of yourself. At least, judging by your voluminous effforts to do so, you are comfortable making an total and complete ass out of yourself.

Maybe, and it’s just a thought, but perhaps you shouldn’t let your fear and hatred drive you to believe just any drivel about those you fear and loathe?

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Guys in trunks?Swimming trunks?

Yes,but what about the shooter on the grassy knoll??